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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:17 PM
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Bush can better handle terrorism and Iraq... CNN now...
polls. ten foot lieing bastard polls.
jeebus but there's just no way to get the real unlies out.

WHAT THE HELL did Iraq have to do with terrorism? 911? - That is Certainly what was Implied.... for cripes sake I want to bang my head against a wall, stop, and feel better for it - I'm like a yoyo lately - I hear good shit from Kerry but the media turns it into bad stinking putrid shit that is really bush.....

portends of further darkness ahead - yoyo is on the drop. The old saying was you can't fight city hall - a new one now is you just can't fight major media false messages or the corporations that choose who the winners are - and that ain't the 99% of us, folks. We the people are just lost in the mix, used, some pretending like we matter with the vote, the fake false vote that means nothing.

I need a good drink or a bad lobotomy.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:19 PM
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1. I'm on drink #2 at this point...
the polls are really sickening aren't they?

Thank Jeebus I have one coworker who is as horrified by the Repubs as me and we quietly ask each other
:wtf: every day...
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:28 PM
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2. this ain't looking too fucking good.
I feel badly for the Kerry supporters that think if/when he wins some kind of semblance of sanity will return.... (I like to think that pollyanna thought too onct a while)
my yoyo is working OT tonight...

Bush has all the cards, all the voting machines, all the drone borgs all the Messaging Machines and the Dynasty of Death and the PNACers that has been in the works for decades... HE AIN'T LEAVING, sorry to say.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:31 PM
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4. Exactly, TrustingDog
We're going to have to keep on our guard from the moment Kerry wins.

On the other hand, won't it feel GOOD to gloat even for just a few minutes?

But let's not forget that Bush would have almost a month from Election Day to Inauguration Day to really fuck shit up in this country, and then pardon himself and everyone else.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:31 PM
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3. Nothing has gone as he planned in Iraq. Nothing.
How am I supposed to believe and take comfort in that. He has failed and it's time to fire the bum.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:36 PM
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6. The Declaration of Independence !!!
FASCISM

Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist, wrote an article about fascism which appeared in Free Inquiry magazine -- a journal of humanist thought. The article is titled 'Fascism Anyone?', by Laurence Britt, and appears in Free Inquiry's Spring 2003 issue on page 20.

Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of:
* Hitler (Germany)
** Mussolini (Italy)
*** Franco (Spain)
**** Suharto (Indonesia)
***** Pinochet (Chile)

He found the regimes had 14 things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism.

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights --

Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need". The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected.

Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined --

Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:39 PM
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7. you who don't believe and take comfort...
it DOESN'T MATTER....

who ya gonna tell, who is going to let your voice ring equal to the squawking murderous pigs with the biggest microphones?

Repugs have TV, and we have soap boxes on the internet.

sorry folks, I'm in a black mood tonight and I feel it deep in my bones that all this fighting hard against obvious evildoing fuckers ain't gonna mean much in the end except our greater dissapointment.

Please, please.... I want to be SO wrong.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:32 PM
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5. stop torturing yourself....CNN & Gallup are co-propaganda machines f-them!
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:43 PM
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8. it's not that god damned simple....
as long as these lies abound, when the next illegal 'selection' is done.... well. hey, the polls were telling, weren't they?

fit the bigger lie to the smaller one and voila! we have no big upset surprises! and another 4 years of even more searing hell on earth.
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