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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:17 PM
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Terrorism is nothing more than angry young men with more guns than jobs..
What if those young men had real jobs, that paid enough for them to support a family and live a decent life? Does anyone really think that they would be skulking around in darkness planting bombs??Or...would they be home with their families , playing with their kids??


Eventually ANYONE gets totally PISSED about being poor forever..about not having the things that television shows "everyone else" enjoying..

Terrorism at its roots is just the 'haves vs the have-nots'..

The ONLY way we will ever 'defeat' terrorism will be when the advanced countries realize that they have a vested interest in keeping the poor among us.....less poor.

Uprisings have been with us FOREVER.. Beheadings go all the way back to the Bible.. The tactics used today are nothing new. The only thing new about them is that they are now brought into our living rooms and onto our computer screens..

Bush likes to say that we 'fight them there, so they don't come HERE'.. NEWS FLASH... they ARE here.

Poor people here are getting more and more angry, and it's not a far stretch to imagine our own home-grown terrorists using the same tactics someday..

The US missed an opportunity when we decided to 'change' Iraq. In the first few weeks after the 'invasion', we had the power to make a difference, but we were 100% wrong in our choices.

Instead of handing millions of dollars to foreigners, all we would have had to do would have been to start posting paper handbills in Arabic, offering JOBS to all Iraqi men who needed a job.. These people are used to manual labor, and they could have been 'hired' for a pittance...( a fortune to most of them)..

Bags of concrete, concrete blocks, shovels, brooms, dump trucks, and wood could have been the solution to all the problems.. If these laborers had been offered $100 a month, and given the tools to rebuild their own country, they would have done it...in spades..And the byproduct, would have been tired, but satisfied young men who saw a future, for them and their country.. The educated young men, could have been offered an accelerated educational program to help them become the next engineers, architects, doctors, etc.

The young men in Iraq have the same complaints as the young men in Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Africa, Europe, China, ....everywhere. They are grown up, but have no meaningful jobs.. They want to marry and have a family, but they cannot even support themselves..Their countries are corrupt, and they know it.. They have no HOPE..

Men with guns, bitter feelings, and NO HOPE, are dangerous to everyone..

We had a small window of opportunity, and instead of opening it wider, we blew it up..
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:19 PM
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1. True...
it's an old truism that nobody revolts on a full stomach.

Even in the most evil dictatorships, the masses were (and are) kept at bey on full stomachs......
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:20 PM
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2. Organized crime is organized crime.
Terrorist organizations have the same draw as the mafia, or street gangs do. Instability, poverty, alienation, these are the enemies, not a religion and certainly not a race.
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Dakini23 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:24 PM
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3. Exactly....
Desperate people, do desperate things.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:27 PM
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4. exactly - this is why the wpa worked so well - and lack of jobs
and money and goodies for all is why we all have the highest crime rate

the minimum wage hasn't increased much since the 1960's yet congress has given themselves 60,000 raises since 1989.

so no money = crime

and our government and country I believe has one of the highest crime rates - people are advised when they visit here of that
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:30 PM
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5. yup.
:thumbsup: Take away the double-whammy of the global depression and punitive Versailles treaty on the German economy and a certain obscure Bavarian painter likely never becomes much more than that. Grinding poverty is a powder keg, looking for the right nutcase to provide a spark.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:39 PM
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6. That does not explain the bush terrorists
I agree more with ajna3, that terrorism is a sort of organized crime,
and that is where the BFEE fits in to the picture, as organized
criminals... same with sharon and his terrorism. Putin is not poor
either... but organized crime, is his new kremlin approach after
seeing how well crime pays in other places (USA...).

Yes, they are men, bored, teenager-like, but not poor, nor was Osama
a poor man... no, it is rich men with guns, with small dicks and
something to prove... it is those crime families that are most
dangerous, especially with the WMD's they use on civilians, depleted
uranium chemical weapons, and all sorts of things, that were the
"insurgents" carrying them, we'd cry foul.

Sadly, eisenhower was right, and the window of opportunity to leash
the out-of-control military industrial establishment, has been missed.
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