Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

How to get started in mind control...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:04 AM
Original message
How to get started in mind control...
THREE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW BEFORE YOU READ ANY FURTHER:
It's possible to induce an eyes-open trance in a room full of people using vibrations pumped behind the sound of an air conditioner.
The US Marine Corps uses the same six conversion techniques as the biggest religious and secular cults.
River Phoenix was slipped a deadly speedball when he threatened to expose the Children of God as a CIA-backed experiment in the psychic effects of ritual abuse.
Get it? There is no idle fucking around with mind control. It isn't about parlor tricks. It's about the systematic destruction of free will. Ad makers, voodoo doctors, insane political dictators—they all employ the secrets you are about to uncover. We urge you not to use these techniques carelessly, and to save them until you are positive that you are ready for the manifold responsibilities of world domination. So... doot doola doot doo... okay, you ready now? It's time to get off the soapbox and start washing some brains!

http://www.popsmear.com/popculture/features/23.0/mindcontrol.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:18 AM
Response to Original message
1. I Have No Doubt About the Many Means of Persuasion
practiced by religious cults. I know them first hand. But they work best when a group has great control over an individual.

I'm not sure how effective they are in mass media. Subliminal advertising has pretty much dropped by the wayside because advertisers weren't convinced it worked.

The 8 or 11 cycles per second is interesting, though. Will have to find out more about that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
2. quite a few technological approaches
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 11:35 AM by LunaSea
being studied these days-

http://www.acq.osd.mil/sadbu/sbir/solicitations/sbir031/darpa031.htm

"Wireless Near-Infrared Devices for Neural Monitoring in Operational Environments"

heres a link for exploring other topics at DARPA-
http://www.acq.osd.mil/sadbu/sbir/solicitations/sbir031/index.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
3. "The Greenbaum Speech": ritual abuse and trauma-induced mind control
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 12:19 PM by Minstrel Boy
A presentation delivered by Dr DC Hammond in 1992.

Credits to Hammond's name include:

B.S. M.S. Ph.D (Counseling Psychology) from the University of Utah
Diplomate in Clinical Hypnosis, the American Board of Psychological Hypnosis
Diplomate in Sex Therapy, the American Board of Sexology
Clinical Supervisor and Board Examiner, American Board of Sexology
Diplomate in Marital and Sex Therapy, American Board of Family Psychology
Licensed Psychologist, Licensed Marital Therapist, Licensed Family Therapist, State of Utah
Research Associate Professor of Physical Medicine an Rehabilitation, Utah School of Medicine
Director and Founder of the Sex and Marital Therapy Clinic, University of Utah.
Adjunct Associate Professor of Educational Psychology, University of Utah Abstract
Editor, The American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis
Advising Editor and Founding Member, Editorial Board, The Ericsonian Monograph
Referee, The Journal of Abnormal Psychology
1989 Presidential Award of Merit, American Society of Clinical Hypnosis
1990 Urban Sector Award, American Society of Clinical Hypnosis
Current President, American Society of Clinical Hypnosis


I haven't seen anything to discredit Hammond. Anyone who has something on him - besides "only a kook believes in ritual abuse!" - please step forward.

I think this speech is remarkable, because it's professional, third-party evidence for what we've heard from victims and cases like that of the Franklin Credit Union that the CIA has been pursuing, under the cover of occult ritual, Nazi-inspired research into trauma-induced mind control.

Horrific stuff. Feel free to ignore because it's too much to take in, or to call it all bullshit for much the same reason.

Excerpts:


When you start to find the same highly esoteric information in different states and different countries, from Florida to California, you start to get an idea that there's something going on that is very large, very well coordinated, with a great deal of communication and sytematicness to what's happening. So I have gone from someone kind of neutral and not knowing what to think about it all to someone who clearly believes ritual abuse is real and that the people who say it isn't are either naive like people who didn't want to believe the Holocaust or -- they're dirty.

...

Here's where it appears to have come from. At the end of World War II, before it even ended, Allen Dulles and people from our Intelligence Community were already in Switzerland making contact to get out Nazi scientists. As World War II ends, they not only get out rocket scientists, but they also get out some Nazi doctors who have been doing mind-control research in the camps.

...

We find a lot of connections with the CIA. This patient now was in a Cult school, a private Cult school where several of these sessions occurred a week. She would go into a room, get all hooked up. They would do all of these sorts of things. When she was in the proper altered state, now they were no longer having to monitor it with electroencephalographs, she also had already had placed on her electrodes, one in the vagina, for example, four on the head.

...

We were going along and a patient was close to getting well, approaching final integration in a non-bloodline and she suddenly started hallucinating and her fingers were becoming hammers and other things like that. So I used an affect-bridge and we went back and we found that what happened was that they gave suggestions, that if she ever got well to a certain point she would go crazy. The way they did this was they strapped her down and they gave her LSD when she was eight years old. When she began hallucinating they inquired about the nature of the hallucinations so they could utilize them in good Ericsonian fashion and build on them and then combine the drug-effect with powerful suggestions. "If you ever get to this point you will go crazy. If you ever get fully integrated and get well you will go crazy like this and will be locked up in an institution for the rest of your life. They gave those suggestions vigorously and repetitively.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/greenbaum.htm

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Yes
The only anybody might doubt the existance of completely effective mind control techinques in massive use all around us is a willingness to deny the reality.

I'll bet you have been conditioned to suggest these possibilities just so others, like me, can shoot them down to continue the illusion of free will when it's clear we are all mind controlled drones.

There's no other explanation.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. "The game is afoot, my dear Watson."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. Weird. I know of Cory Hammond & his work in hypnosis
but I think I once knew about the Greenbaum speech (it rings some bells somewhere down there in the hippocampus) and FORGOT ENTIRELY ABOUT IT.

Hammond is a perfectly reputable psychologist (to the extent that any of us are).

So thanks for dredging this up for me again. Wow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Thanks for starting the thread.
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 03:29 PM by Minstrel Boy
I don't think there's a topic as serious that's as widely ridiculed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:10 PM
Response to Original message
4. Venezuela: Concerning Fate, HAARP, Project Sunshine and other WMD
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 12:44 PM by seemslikeadream
....

The above is just one of the many examples of dreadful ABC arms of mass destruction, produced currently by the USA.

The ELF-waves in action

Soon, we need not pray aloud in Church anymore; instantaneously, via scalar waves, we could transmit our thoughts directly to God in the hereafter, beyond the Universe. Of course, vice versa, he could immediately read our thoughts, decide our fate, and perfectly control our "free will". Do we know that not only protons exist, but also gravitons? Do we know how to defend ourselves against extra low frequency (ELF) mind and thought control mechanisms? Against HAARP?

What could happen if Big Brother would supply the four Nazi "stormtroopers of the apocalypse", the "Carlos Gang", or their future equivalents, with these E-weapons? They could influence, direct and control the very health of the president, of the sovereign, of the people, by attacking their very brains with a sabotage frequency below 100 Hz. In its over-all social damage, this could be worse than any economic sabotage. In this case, fate or faith will or cannot defend us anymore.

Concerning the HAARP projects of the Pentagon, NASA and NATO, by means of a gigantic, energetic slingshot, the Rumsfeld war machine could heat up the ionospere, convert it into a huge electro-magnetic mirror, and would thus be able to direct the ELF-waves to any place or person, to anywhere, to where they wish, hence influencing all life systems, including human consciousness, inducing pests, changing the weather, bringing about earthquakes, moving the poles of the earth, etc. Apart from these installations of the US Army, there are many more in Berlin Tempelhof, Arecibo, Dushanbe, Gork City, Tromso, Monchegorsk, Sura and who knows where else.

These ELF-waves penetrate everywhere, even the earth and the oceans. They affect the scientifically well-known brain wave bands:

-Delta (1-3 Hz.)... deep sleep. coma;

-Theta (4-7 Hz.)... Hypnosis, Trance, Dream;

-Alpha (8-13 Hz.)... Meditation, Prayer, Relaxation;

-Beta (14-40 Hz)... Condition of Awakedness.

The ELF-Waves force our awareness and consciousness towards the delta and theta regions, causing tiredness, towards a lack of power, motivations and drives. It lowers or damages the immune system; one adopts a carpe diem life style. By means of these ELF-signals masses are converted into pack animals, working themselves to death, and into pathological consumer bees. They lose all revolutionary fervour and social optimism; they acquire a psychotic disassociation syndrome; as automatons, their minds and thoughts are being controlled. The result is that nobody thinks anymore, simply because there is no drive, no motivation, no power, no time to think any more. Such masses can be indoctrinated, manipulated very easily.
In conclusion, much of what is happening now on earth has very little to do with faith, fate, with "free will" or "divine will"; it is directed directly from the Pentagon, across the international mass media, music, commercials, electronic gadgets, or even directly from satellites.

At the moment, Latin America, Venezuela, Afghanistan and Iraq are experiment stations for all these mind and thought control devices, are guinea-pigs to test all the deadly, genocidal weapons of the USA, hence, Venezuela, beware! There are more than four "jíneteras del apocalípsis". The CIA hound-dogs, the moribund "coordinated, democratic" werewolves are everywhere, in church, in our beds, in the kindergarten, in class, in our development projects, in our very governments, in our political parties, in our very brains.
more
http://www.cmaq.net/fr/node.php?id=18280

Aerial mind control (Commando Solo) and Rumsfeld's "Message to the People of Iraq".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1663784

"From PSYOP to Mindwar" - be afraid
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=785713

Anti Conspiracy Ostriches - how do you ignore MKULTRA?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=636309

The Power of Words at the Speed of Light
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=38327

DU MKULTRA thread-let's talk about mind control, factually now.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1414094
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. So the state of the public mind as it is now,
in many parts of the world, is not created by means of those ELF waves, since ELF is experimental.

Rather it is a result of good old propaganda, just a modern version developed into perfection.

There may be much truth in what you say, but as of yet the main tool of control over the public mind is the privately owned mass media.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. It seems there's plenty of mind control going on


Rev. Moon calls for new UN-backed religious body for world peace
Nando Media/February 5, 1999

Seoul -- The Rev. Sun Myung Moon, head of the Unification Church, on Friday called for an inter-faith UN-backed religious body to work for world peace.
Moon, who had returned to his home country to conduct a mass wedding of 40,000 couples here Sunday, said a new United Nations-related body was needed in the next century as other peace efforts had been "ultimately ineffective."

"Only if these efforts are supported by the more internal ones of religion, education and culture can ideal results be secured," the controversial religious leader said in a statement.
more
http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/Unif34.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
5. look no further than FAUX, NBC, CNN, CBS, ABC
The thousands of hours spent staring blankly at a screen whilst
people in neutral colours, stand in front of flag-patriotic displays
and paint propaganda to be a good MacCitizen. These hours, from a
young age, are critical. It is the children, raised on captain
crunch, the brady bunch and friends, really have learned more about
social relationships from TV than real life. Such that a whole
generation of mr and mrs brady are looking for mr and mrs opposite
brady, as if the whole thing were real and not a concoction of
marketeers.

Mind control comes from where you least expect, as by the very nature
of that source, you are open and vulnerable, whereas when you're
prepped, its all too obvious. Mind control works best when members
of the cult unaware that they are mind controlled, indoctrinate
new members in cult behaviour. Mind control comes from your
friends and teachers, not wave generators. It is not the linear
speaking information that controls, but the endemic acceptance of
a view of the world, that is transmitted directly in an attempt to
form and indoctrinate those who would be free were they to reject
the inputs as wholly toxic and dangerous.

Just how many of us are militant enough to suspect every relationship
with every person except the truly enlightened... that all of those
relationships are founded on being unenlightened, and keeping others
unenlightened. That is the sad reality of the media state, and
makes those who don't want mind control, in to a tiny tiny minority,
... "the sane"... and it takes work, to discover sanity in a world
of raving loonies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:36 PM
Response to Original message
6. And how exactly does this help me get "lucky" :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. target freepers
they'll fall for the cheesiest pickup lines.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 12:30 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC