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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:50 AM
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E-Mail Aaron Brown & Tell Him What Scum he is !
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 07:51 AM by stewert
Aaron Brown interviewed Jimmy Breslin last night, it was pathetic, and an outrage. he
spent the whole interview defending the Bush administration lying about the air quality
in New York after 9-11. I watched the whole interview, it made me sick to my stomache
to see a so-called journalist defending the EPA cover up. Go to the link below and read
the whole interview, you would believe it.

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BROWN: And now to another firestorm, this one having to do with a report from the EPA's inspector general, the
man
or woman who basically patrols, polices, the EPA. It concerns the air people were breathing at
ground zero in the
hours, the days, the months following the 9/11 attack.

How safe was it? Or wasn't it? What were people told about its safety, and why?

<snip>

SEN. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON (D), NEW YORK: The EPA did not have the data. They had not
conducted the
tests. And they lacked the samples to tell workers, parents, residents, business owners, and first
responders that
they need not worry.

OKWU: But that's exactly what the EPA did. Then-EPA chief Christie Todd Whitman.

CHRISTINE TODD WHITMAN, FORMER ADMINISTRATOR, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY: But
from a
real health problem and health concerns, we don't have to worry...

OKWU: According to the report, senior officials at the EPA circulated a memo one day after the
attacks, specifying that
all statements to the media should be cleared by the National Security Council. At some point, the
report says, the
White House convinced the agency to, quote, "add reassuring statements and delete cautionary
ones."

The acting EPA chief says at no time did the agency mislead the public.

<snip>

BROWN: More now on the air at ground zero and that EPA report.

Jimmy Breslin writes for "New York Newsday." He has developed over the years a nose for the
occasional ill wind.
We're pleased to have him back on the program and we're glad to see him looking well.

Let me lay out an argument here for a second. You wrote a very harsh column, OK.

JIMMY BRESLIN, "NEW YORK NEWSDAY": Why?

BROWN: I don't know why. I can't answer why. You wrote it.

You're sitting in Washington on the 12th of September. The country has been grievously wounded
and is -- I think
edgy would be understating it and panic overstating it, but somewhere in between. And do you
understand at least
why someone in the White House would say to the EPA, can you just tone it down a little bit?

BRESLIN: No.

BROWN: No?

BRESLIN: I can't understand a lie to me at a time like that.

I'm in the street with the smoke and they're going to tell me a lie: It's all right? On the 16th of
September, the
government, the EPA issued a release in which they said it is perfectly healthy and all right for New
Yorkers working
in the financial district to go back.

BROWN: Right.

BRESLIN: That's competing interests. They wanted the stock market open. And it's too bad if you
can't breathe right
10 years later.

BROWN: But maybe the question is, they wanted the stock market open, they wanted people to get
back to life,
because they, in their view -- I'm presuming -- saw this as an extraordinary moment in time, where
normalcy had to
prevail. Do you at least -- do you accept that it wasn't malevolent as much as it was misguided?

BRESLIN: Oh, no. A lie at a time like that is malevolent. It's unforgivable. And there can be no
excuse that they saw a
great opportunity in our time on Earth, that they could handle it with a lie, the same as they did in
Iraq. There are no
weapons of mass destruction. They told you there were, and we're going in there, we have to get
them.

They lied. They lied about the air you breathe. And they lied about the war you're in and getting
people killed over.
When are they going to tell the truth, just for a change of pace?

BROWN: Well, let's step back again. I told you I want to talk a bit about lying in government. Do
you ever -- is it ever
appropriate for the government, the federal government, any government, but the federal
government in this case, to
lie?

BRESLIN: I don't see where it's ever appropriate. I really don't.

More Here:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0308/27/asb.00.html

Contact Aaron - http://www.cnn.com/feedback/

Now read this:

Dust and Deception

Last week a quietly scathing report by the inspector general of the Environmental Protection Agency
confirmed what some have long suspected: in the aftermath of the World Trade Center's collapse, the
agency systematically misled New Yorkers about the risks the resulting air pollution posed to their health.
And it did so under pressure from the White House.

The Bush administration has misled the public on many issues, from the budget outlook to the Iraqi threat.
But this particular deception seems, at first sight, not just callous but gratuitous. It's only when you look
back at budget politics in 2001 that you see the method in the administration's mendacity.

A draft E.P.A. report released last December conceded that 9/11 had led to huge emissions of pollutants.
In particular, releases of dioxins — which are carcinogens and can also damage the nervous system and
cause birth defects — created "likely the highest ambient concentrations that have ever been reported," up
to 1,500 times normal levels. But the report concluded that because the outdoor air cleared after a couple
of months, little harm had been done.

In fact, the main danger comes from toxic dust that seeped into buildings and remains in carpets, furniture
and air ducts. According to a recent report in Salon, businesses that did environmental assessments of their
own premises found alarming levels not just of dioxins but also of asbestos and other dangerous pollutants.
So the most shocking revelation from the new report is that under White House direction, the E.P.A.
suppressed warnings about indoor pollution. Scattered evidence suggests that as a result, hundreds of
cleaning workers and thousands of residents may be suffering chronic health problems.

More Here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/26/opinion/26KRUG.html?pagewanted=print&position=

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:53 AM
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1. Good interview - brought out GOP arguements and shot them down.
Aaron is one of the best.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:24 AM
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4. Different impression
I have a different impression. I thought Brown was playing "devil's advocate" with Breslin. Tossing the right wing arguments out and letting Breslin defeat them. The end result was a complete victory for Breslin's point of view, and Brown was happy about it.

I saw him do this with Scott Ritter when Ritter was being nailed for the "porn" court case. He threw everything on the table and gave Ritter every chance to defend it. Brown is a good newsman...and a classic Minnesota Liberal.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:18 AM
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13. you're kidding, right?
Aaron Brown works for the Bush administration.

Every CNN anchor I've seen has been highly questioning of ANYONE that might suggest that George Bush and his administration are ANYTHING but honorable. I saw the exact same thing in the interview clip above.

Brown-nose.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:59 AM
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2. Aaron Brown makes me a better person

Every day that I can honestly say that all I want for him is to be safely and humanely removed to a small town in the midwest, with no access to Prozac, to live in a modest ranch home and work in a midlevel position in the actuarial department of an insurance company until he is dead is a moral victory and a reaffirmation of my committment to non-violence.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:25 AM
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5. He used to anchor here in Seattle
I was glad to see him and his little smirk leave!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:51 AM
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6. midlevel position in the actuarial department : A cruel punishment!
but walking outside at night in a small midwest town where you actually see the stars and indeed hear the corn growing at night is not a bad gig!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:31 AM
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28. LMAO
Perfect. Absolutely perfect. :-)
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:22 AM
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3. I also thought Aaron was good
He was bringing up the questions which repugs would ask and let Jimmy shoot them down. Highly effective. Shows he was not drooling all over Breslin and effectively answers the questions Publicans are screaming from other side.

Out of anyone in the whole lineup at CNN, Brown is certainly the most 'Fair and Balanced' interviewer and doesn't mind bringing on people like Palast... Blitzer likes to bring his friends around, like Perle and Wolfowitz.

Nope. I thought it was fine. I think Brown was even smirking a little on the sly asking the 'tough' questions.

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:28 AM
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14. you must not know much about Brown
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=21&ItemID=3397

"This is not science, this is art" -- Aaron Brown
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:34 AM
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16. One good thing about that article...
was Brown clarifying Wesley Clark's role on CNN:

"We don't bring generals in to engage in a debate over whether or whether not the war should or should not be fought -- and that's why the question is a red herring. We bring generals in to explain what is happening on the ground and why"

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:46 AM
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19. Clark was a war-monger
like every other "general" that appeared on television in the buildup to, and engagement of the Last Iraq war.
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:48 AM
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20. Last Iraq War?
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 10:52 AM by graham67
Are you referring Operation Desert Storm?


Edited for clarity
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:54 AM
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22. Have you heard about a war this year?
the last one?

I mean this war...the Last Iraq War, where Wesley Clark played talking head and served the interests of the corporate media by telling the Amereican public that everything was OK because he and Clinton made the military strong?

And people wonder why I dont like Clark as a candidate. :eyes:
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:59 AM
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23. Iraq war....
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 11:00 AM by graham67
I'm pretty sure this one is still ongoing. Yes, I'm quite aware of it. You used the term "last", not "present" and I was trying to understand your statement.

Did you ever listen or read the transcripts of Wesley Clark's testimony before the house and senate armed services committees (Sept of 2002)?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:04 AM
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24. nope
did he say the war in Iraq should not happen? Did he tell otther Democrats this?

funny, Bush declared hostilities over...Democrats gave him credibility and authority to declare it over (battle operations, at least)...so, you're saying the Democratic party endorses the idea that the war is over since they supported Bush, and he said its over?
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:08 AM
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27. He and his colleagues..
made their opinions well known. I'm pretty sure there were some Democrats there. ;-)


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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:57 AM
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7. aaron was doing his job
laying out the other side and giving breslin a chance to take them on.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:52 AM
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21. the other side?
Why didn't Brown ask Breslin if he thought that Bush's actions were traitorous.? Why didn't Brown ask Breslin if he thought that Bush's insistence on lying to the public (and to NYC specifically) was directly endangering American lives? Why did he ask the question as if there was no malevolent intent possible?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 09:18 AM
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8. I wrote him!
This is for Aaron Brown:
How dare you try and excuse this administration's cover up of the bad air quality in New York City!
We need to know the Truth especially about our Air. And now they are trying to destroy more air with their relaxing the standards.

All the cover ups of this group in Washington is going to come back and bite them and you are going to be associated with criminals.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 09:20 AM
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9. Well all I can say is after reading the other posts is that
I'm glad it went down that way and I haven't had my tea yet!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 09:32 AM
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10. I watched it too zidzi
I thought Brown did a pretty good job. Hell. He is the only one who I seen even reporting on the story yesterday on cable. That means something. I think he does his best to be fair? That is not an easy thing to do these days.

Don

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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 09:50 AM
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11. I Disagree Don !

It looked to me that Brown was defending the actions of the Bush administration and the EPA.

Jimmy Breslin looked shocked that Brown was defending their actions, if he was playing
devils advocate he sure never came off that way. I do not watch him very often, but to me
it sure as hell looked like he was defending the Bush administration.

He even called it a very harsh article, I would have called it a very true article. People who
agree with the article do not call it a harsh article, then atack the guy who wrote it.

I think you guys have it wrong on this one, Brown was clearly defending the Bush administration.

I watched the entire interview, Jimmy seemed stunned that Brown would defend the actions
of the Bush administration.

Brown may lean left most of the time, but he blew it on this one big time.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:02 AM
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12. Reasonable people can agree to disagree
Peace.

Don

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:30 AM
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15. reasonable people vote for George Bush
so, you're not mad at Republicans then, right?
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:37 AM
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17. was AB sending a coded msg?
"And do youunderstand at least
why someone in the White House would say to the EPA, can you just tone it down a little bit? "


This line caught my attention.
He's tacitly admitting to what we here know; that the admin tells the 'news" networks what to say.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:05 AM
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25. I'm With Don
This has been Brown's style for a long time. They were practically softball questions for Breslin.

Brown took the devil's advocate (and appropriate term given those whose positions he was taking) and let Breslin tee up the response. Jimmy Breslin was there to take shots at the Bush administration, and Brown did everything he could to let him.

I am not one of the DU'ers who sees Brown as a right wing shill. I think he's one of the few who has decided he has nothing to gain by being one.
The Professor
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Coffee Coyote Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 12:29 PM
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30. you are correct Prof
I used to watch him as a local anchor in Seattle years ago, and as an occasional viewer of NewsNight, I know that Brown is fairly liberal, and excels with the devil's advocacy questioning style.

Plus, for those who think he is smirking - no, that is just his facial features as they naturally are. The fact that he is sardonic seems to place a higher emphasis on the quirkiness of his natural smile.

Brown has good guests - much better than Blitzer as someone else said. I remember Michael Moore complimenting Brown as being "one of the best". Moore is no middle-of-the-roader, so that was high praise indeed.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:45 AM
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18. folks, I dont see why ANYONE would trust Aaron Brown
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 10:48 AM by Terwilliger
look at this! are we reading the same thing??

BROWN: More now on the air at ground zero and that EPA report.

Jimmy Breslin writes for "New York Newsday." He has developed over the years a nose for the occasional ill wind (Brown is letting you know that the EPA report controversy is nothing important). We're pleased to have him back on the program and we're glad to see him looking well.

Let me lay out an argument here for a second. You wrote a very harsh column, OK. (So Brown thinks he wrote a harsh column...harsh in what respect? That he was maligning the Bush administration?)

JIMMY BRESLIN, "NEW YORK NEWSDAY": Why?

BROWN: I don't know why. I can't answer why. You wrote it. (BRILLIANT retort...Breslin asked why Brown thought the article was harsh, and Brown talked about something else)

You're sitting in Washington on the 12th of September. The country has been grievously wounded and is -- I think edgy would be understating it and panic overstating it, but somewhere in between. And do you understand at least why someone in the White House would say to the EPA, can you just tone it down a little bit? (So, Brown is saying, "shouldnt you be happy that Bush lied to you so we could get New York city back to business?")

BRESLIN: No.

BROWN: No?

BRESLIN: I can't understand a lie to me at a time like that.

I'm in the street with the smoke and they're going to tell me a lie: It's all right? On the 16th of September, the government, the EPA issued a release in which they said it is perfectly healthy and all right for New Yorkers working in the financial district to go back.

BROWN: Right.

BRESLIN: That's competing interests. They wanted the stock market open. And it's too bad if you can't breathe right 10 years later.

BROWN: But maybe the question is, they wanted the stock market open, they wanted people to get back to life,because they, in their view -- I'm presuming -- saw this as an extraordinary moment in time (apolgia and pandering), where normalcy had to prevail. Do you at least -- do you accept that it wasn't malevolent as much as it was misguided? (Does he accept? So, journalist Brown has decided that it wasn't malevolent, and why would this Mr. Breslin suggest otherwise?? :eyes: )

BRESLIN: Oh, no. A lie at a time like that is malevolent. It's unforgivable. And there can be no excuse that they saw a great opportunity in our time on Earth, that they could handle it with a lie, the same as they did in Iraq. There are no weapons of mass destruction. They told you there were, and we're going in there, we have to get them.

They lied. They lied about the air you breathe. And they lied about the war you're in and getting people killed over. When are they going to tell the truth, just for a change of pace?

BROWN: Well, let's step back again (Oh yes! Let's not get into that particular topic). I told you I want to talk a bit about lying in government. Do you ever -- is it ever appropriate for the government, the federal government, any government, but the federal government in this case, to lie? (Aaron's trying to excuse the lie with this "question")

BRESLIN: I don't see where it's ever appropriate. I really don't.


=================================================================

Like I said...Brown-nose. You think he would give Clinton or a Dem administration this kind of unflagging loyalty?

OnEdit: formatting
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 11:07 AM
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26. Terwilliger is Right.......

Aaron Brown is a Bush ass kissing corporate whore pretending to be a fair and balanced
journalist. But if you read what he says closely you can see he defends Bush and his actions.

He even admits he is not 50/50 in his news coverage, it looks to me like he is just trying
to get liberals to watch his lame ass show to increase his ratings.

He is the lou dobbs of the night.

Read that transcript Terwilliger posted with Aaron and Amy Goodman, it's an eye-opener.

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 12:12 PM
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29. hey Aaron gives liberals a better shake than phucking Tweety!!!!
i saw Al Franken on Aaron Brown the other day and I must say i was pleasently surprised. Aaron was most decent and let Al speak without interuptions
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 12:34 PM
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31. Aaron already knows he's a mediawhore:-)
He knows it every time he looks in the mirror, and every time he cashes that CNN check :)
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