If it was Tony f****** Blair's brother in Iraq being threatened with a

[acmavm]

savage, cruel, horrible death, you can be that bastard would let every damn last Iraqi out of prison. The same frigging thing can be said for that miserable asshole that's running this poor country into the ground. These bastards never have any member in their family even coming close to personal danger or death. They sit in the comfy, elegant surroundings and make noise about how 'they can't give in to the terrorists' when they are the one's who created them.

I have NEVER seen any of the beheadings, never intended to either. But someone was just here using my computer and they were looking at something that made them jump so since I am nearsighted I came over here to look and see what it was. My God, those screams. The horrible cruel way that the poor man had to die. The thought that he not only suffered this obscene death is breaking my heart. But just think of the fear he had to feel for so long just knowing what was in store for him. Holding out one little sliver of hope that maybe there was a trace of humanity in those two fucking bastards, that they just might save his life and spare him the fear and agony of that last few minutes before he died.

I can truly say that I don't give a damn what any religion, ethical teaching, or whatever says. I hate these people with a hate that is so amazing that it's almost painful. No, not almost, it's an ache somewhere deep inside me, somewhere dark and secret, where I wish that bush*, blair, rumsfeld, perle, wolfowitz, allawi, rice, powell, all of them could somehow share the suffering of those poor victims and their families. But they never will. They'll just go on thinking that they have the god-given right to allow human beings to be killed, either by dropping bombs on them from aircraft, or at the end of a knife all because they covet the Iraqi oil fields and have this sinful, yes I do mean sinful and mortally so, lust for power.

[liberalmuse]

1. I'm going to remember this...

when Blair and the Bush junta are sitting at the Hague in their orange jumpsuits and the entire world gives the thumbs down signal.

[Zorbet55]

5. Are we all in agreement here?

Bush will be offered up for exchange with the next hostages. Blair will follow. hip-hip-hoo ray! hip-hip-hoo ray! You go George!

[Carla in Ca]

9. I second that...

:hi: Welcome!

[ECH1969]

2. You really think Zarqawi would decide to not

Cut off his head if the British did push the Iraqi's into giving into his demands?

[rooboy]

4. I don't know anything about Zarqawi or how he thinks...

and nor does anyone else on this board. But I do have a problem with the way everyone seems to accept the 'evil' tag bestowed on whoever the administration wants us to hate.

Don't forget that the neocons want Putin to negotiate with the Chechens - what's the difference?

[ECH1969]

6. Zarqawi isn't Iraqi he is from Jordan

He doesn't give a shit about the Iraqi people. He is there to kill and cause chaos. Hell, he is refered to amoungst the Al-Qaeda elite as the Prince of Darkness and the Prince of Cutthroats. It would be as bad as trying to make negotiate with Osama.

[rooboy]

10. By reputation, Zarqawi is a hired gun...

and therefore VERY likely to be open to negotiation. But nobody knows the truth about these people - heck, I know more about Sylvester Stallone than Al Zarqawi, because at least I've seen him interviewed and could get some perspective on who he is.

This whole war is filled with myths, rumors and lies.

[Zorbet55]

7. Don't you know you're talking to Zell Miller

or is it Jeb Bush?

[acmavm]

8. Well we'll really never frigging know, will we???? Because it seems

that the lives of these men weren't worth letting two women out of prison.

I would really like to point out right now that there have been hostages released when their demands were met. And if you're even going to give me that 'we can't give in to the enemy' shit, let me point out that we are the enemy. We attacked an unarmed, defenseless country that was no danger to us, to no country. And we justifed it on lies and bullshit. There is no way you can spin it that we aren't reaping what we have sown. OOPS! I forgot, the bastards that started this mess are raking in the bucks, aren't they?

[Carla in Ca]

3. What a way to start a new century...

Where do we go from here? How much more can we take?