Ron Paul's speech from last night is on the web.

[Gin]

It is on the Liberty Committee site here:

http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/neo-conned.htm

[mjb4]

1. Unbelieveable...this admin is SICK

There’s a precise reason to argue for war over peace according to Ledeen, for “…peace increases our peril by making discipline less urgent, encouraging some of our worst instincts, in depriving us of some of our best leaders.” Peace, he claims, is a dream and not even a pleasant one, for it would cause indolence and would undermine the power of the state. Although I concede the history of the world is a history of frequent war, to capitulate and give up even striving for peace—believing peace is not a benefit to mankind—is a frightening thought that condemns the world to perpetual war and justifies it as a benefit and necessity. These are dangerous ideas, from which no good can come.

[Bandit]

5. "Peace is a Dream and not even a Pleasant one."

And these folks say we are the fascists?

[berry]

2. THANK YOU! I caught part of it--the last 20 minutes,

and promised myself to try to find it today. It was amazing--as he attacked the whole PNAC program, and the Machiavellian arrogance of pre-emptive war, etc.

BTW, does anyone know how to get transcripts of Senate and House proceedings and Committee meetings? I think I can find it eventually, but if anyone has a handy link, thanks in advance!

[indepat]

3. Many thanks. I don't agree with Ron Paul of some issues but his

assessment of neo-cons is right on.

[berry]

11. I agree--some of his ideas seem wrong-headed indeed

(worrying about "welfare" but not offering solutions to the problems it tries to address, eg.). But on PNAC, and Ledeen in particular, he is eloquent in his criticism. And he doesn't mince words--he calls the aim of the neocons "authoritarian" rule, which is the same as calling it "dictatorship."

Problem is, he was all alone in the House when he gave the speech. When he finished and was starting to leave, the person who was acting as Speaker had to hint that he might want to offer a motion to close down for the night--there was no one else there to do it. So Paul did, and they adjourned. At least it was on C-Span, and now here at this Libertarian website. I HOPE he sends copies of this to every other member of the House and of the Senate, and to news outlets. (He was also VERY critical of Murdoch and Fox and of media concentration.)

The point he makes about the neocons believing in the necessity of lying is timely, just as big lies are being exposed.

[GalleryGod]

4. Today, Nixon would be a conservative DEM!

:bounce: Tricky Dick as a Dem Woo-Hoo! He'd have no choice with these nuts.

[JackieO]

6. awesome, thanks!

does anyone know if the video of this is in the C-span archives?

[Barney Gumble]

7. interesting list from that speech

More important than the names of people affiliated with neo-conservatism are the views they adhere to. Here is a brief summary of the general understanding of what neocons believe:

1. They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as well as intellectual.

2. They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so.

3. They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.

4. They accept the notion that the ends justify the means—that hard-ball politics is a moral necessity.

5. They express no opposition to the welfare state.

6. They are not bashful about an American empire; instead they strongly endorse it.

7. They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.

8. They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit.

9. They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it.

10. They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill-advised.

11. They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem.

12. They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is appropriate.

13. Using American might to force American ideals on others is acceptable. Force should not be limited to the defense of our country.

14. 9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many.

15. They dislike and despise libertarians (therefore, the same applies to all strict constitutionalists.)

16. They endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those found in the Patriot Act, as being necessary.

17. They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party.

[ramapo]

8. I agree with the conservative republican from Texas!

Very scary when you find yourself agreeing with a Republican from Texas. Must be my Libertarian bent.

I sometimes think the world was, in general, much better off with the USSR and two superpowers. No I'm not saying that the people who lived under communist rule were better off.

But the US never would've been able to get away with the neo-con policies of nation-building and world rule.

Unfortunately there is nothing to get in the way of the neo-con bulldozer except wait for it all to collapse from its' own excesses.

[GOPisEvil]

9. If you are a Libertarian, you should love Ron Paul

He's one of you. Or, he was. He was even the Libertarian Party candidate for President one year.

[GeronimoSkull]

10. this should be on the front page of every newspaper

thanks Ron Paul!

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. The ball is now rolling

and this is now a matter of public record

Started when Abercrombie, Delahunt and Rahm Emmanuel got together at Special Orders.... if anybody asks you why they lied, show them the speech.