Soldier gets attacked and we get blamed....

[Axiomatization]

Go figure. A soldier back from Iraq, goes to a redneck concert wearing a "Iragi Freedon" t-shirt, gets beat up and we get blamed by the media. I just don't get it..... There is a dispute among the witnesses about the attack but of course since the alleged victim was a soldier, he gets the beneift of the doubt......

http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3746350/detail.html

BTW, sorry if this is a dupe but I could not find anything else on this HUGE site.....

[LiberalVoice]

1. I fail to see how a soldier getting beat up at a Toby Keith concert...

puts the blame on us. I wouldn't be caught dead at one of that assholes concerts. The guy who beat that soldiers ass probably thought the Iraqi Freedom t-shirt was Anti-Bush. Rednecks/Conservatives/Repugs are stupid like that.

[Axiomatization]

2. Read between the lines.....

They just say that the attacker was making "disparaging remarks".

Hell, it might as well have said "Hippie uses blackjack to to sneek up behind decorated soldier and club him".

What do you think are the possibilities are that the kid fell and broke his nose just so that he wouldn't have to go back to Iraq and his buddies covered it up?

[okieinpain]

21. exactly, I doubt many tree hugger- commie- liberals like myself

are at a toby keith concert.

[ComerPerro]

3. I am guessing that a bunch of redneck Toby Keith fans jumped him

Maybe he didn't praise Bush enough. Or maybe he got distracted during the two minutes hate.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Or maybe he just did something obnoxious and somebody took issue.

[T Town Jake]

4. Who's "we"...?

...certainly not anyone here. This the liberuls hate our troops! nonsense is constantly being discredited...over and over and over and over and over again...

[alphafemale]

5. I can't imagine a self-respecting liberal attending a Toby Keith concert.

Also this seems Parlockish, in that (again) there were multiple witnesses and the culprit should have been immediately identified.

Instead, we get varying accounts.

I'm glad the guy's not going back to Iraq, but that also makes this somewhat suspect.

I also like theory, posed here, that it was a FReeper too Stupid to remember that the slogan "Iraqi Freedom" was one from their side's spin cycle. A tragic lie, of course, taking its place beside its Band of Brothers. No Child Left Behind, Healthy Forest Initiative, Clear Skies Iniative...

Screw it...It's to early to ramble

[MadProphetMargin]

6. Um, I'm a liberal, and I *like* Toby Keith's music, with one or two

exceptions.

[alphafemale]

7. Fine. But how many concerts have you been to?

How many concerts have you been to in tie-dye and Birkenstocks, and ranting about "baby-killers?"

My point was the story is Parlockish.

There are too many things about it that don't seem plausible.

Edit. Typo.

[MadProphetMargin]

8. None. I just don't understand why Toby Keith is the whipping boy, and

that idiot Dennis Whorley gets ignored.

I don't think this is a Parlockish thing, though...wrong venue. If it happened at a Bruce Springsteen/Dixie Chicks thing, I could see it...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

11. Toby Keith made himself the "whipping boy" with the way....

...he publicly attacked the Dixie Chicks AFTER Clear Channel tried to ban their music. Additionally, he capitalized on 911 by creating a song that he knew would appeal to certain types of individuals who like to treat people from other cultures like dirt.

To his credit, Keith later apologized to the Chicks for his behavior, but it was about a week late and about ten dollars short.

And no...you wouldn't see something like this happen at a Chicks or Springstein concert because a person wearing that type of shirt would have no interest in attending their concerts.

[MadProphetMargin]

13. Frankly, I don't see anything wrong with the "Angry American" song. Hell,

I was PISSED after 911.

The only thing that pissed me off more was GWB forgetting all about it.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. I was pissed, too....but I still don't know who was behind 911...do you?..

If it was Osama/Al Qaeda in cahoots with Iraq as the NeoCons desperately want us to believe, how come NONE of the alleged hijackers were from Afghanistan or Iraq?

How come no documentary trail has ever been established by any investigative group linking the alleged hijackers to Osama/Al Qaeda/Iraq?

How come Osama originally denied any involvement in 911? And a related question, how come the individual in the video purporting to show Osama taking credit for the 911 attacks looks NOTHING like Osama in pics BEFORE or AFTER the video was allegedly made?

And to whom do you think Keith was referring with this line from "Angry American"?:

"Soon as we could see clearly through our big black eye,
Man we lit up your world like the Fourth of July."

How come it was so easy for so many people to blame an ENTIRE religious/cultural group for 911? And how come it was so easy for one entertainer to capitalize on that hate?

You see nothing wrong with the song? That's your problem, not mine.

[livinginphotographs]

29. Hmmm...

"Soon as we could see clearly through our big black eye,
Man we lit up your world like the Fourth of July."

So in Toby Keith-world, all those Afghan civilians we killed were responsible for 9-11?

Wonder when his stupid ass plans to go fight in Iraq...

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

9. Oh, I disagree...

There are dozens of stories about bands of roving peaceniks who beat the living daylights out of strapping young soldiers. There was an article about it just last week in the Weekly World News -- right next to the one about Bat Boy.

[CarolynEC]

18. Boo!

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

20. EEK!

Being a staff writer for the Weekly World News is my dream job. Their staff meetings must be a hoot!

[theHandpuppet]

10. My bets are on...

... the attacker being a Freepazoid who mistook the slogan "Iraqi Freedom" for opposition to the war. Do you think we'll ever hear about it again should that be the case?

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. I'm with you on this one

[alphafemale]

16. Probably that or..."Beat me up, but not too much and let's blame it....

on people we don't like."

[Axiomatization]

28. I think alphafemale

is correct. Kid probably got drunk by buying beer illegally and either fell down or smarted off to one of his "buddies" and now they are covering it up.......

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[Hubert Flottz]

15. Sounds like a Parlock drive by to me!

Was there a little girl there too?

[kiki]

22. Hi...

This is my first post. I'm from the UK, and my previous online contact with Americans has consisted mainly of posts on video games boards, where I've been pretty staggered by some of the views expressed. Of course, these are militaristic games we're talking about, and the people on these forums are usually very young kids who claim to be in the military or who profess a desire to join the military at the first opportunity. Nonetheless, I was so stunned by some of their opinions that it took me a while to realize they weren't joking. I used to go on these forums because they were good for getting the blood boiling and getting some jaw-dropping quotes with which to amuse my friends, but the novelty of banging my head against this particular brick wall (the usual tactic, when argued into a corner, was to say 'yeah well were amercans and weve got the biggest army and all the nukes and were the best country and all you foreign fags can go f*ck yourselves!' (except with worse spelling)) soon wore off.

Anyhoo, and not really on topic, I wanted to respong to Media_Lies_Daily's comments challenging the accepted wisdom about Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 attacks. As recently as last year, Channel 4 (a well-respected but 'left-leaning' UK TV channel) aired a documentary about Osama bin Laden which it referred to as "a film about the man widely belived to be responsible for the 9/11 attacks". I thought this was a ballsy statement which I've not really seen repeated by anyone else.

Oh, and I went and checked out the lyrics to that Toby Keith song... the line "soon as we could see clearly" made me piss myself (a British expression meaning "I laughed heartily").

[mmonk]

24. True

and challenges to that assumption have been made here as well.

[kiki]

26. Oh, I'm sure it has...

...but what I really meant was in the mainstream media. Has anyone seen anything in the US media referring to OBL as anything other than "the guy that did it"?

[alphafemale]

25. Welcome to DU!!

Enjoy yourself! :hi:

[kiki]

27. Thanks...

This forum is notable by the fact that I've hardly seen the phrase 'lol' used at all. The right-wingers I'm used to tend to use it as if it were a cogent argument for any and everything.

[newyawker99]

31. Hi kiki!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[deutsey]

23. Some anonymous jerk with a gripe against soldiers

does not a "we" make.

I hope Barton is ok and that the culprit iscaught, but to say that "we" (i.e., war protesters) would be responsible for this attack based on this report is just plain ridiculous

[DrWeird]

30. Look, we all know what happened.

Some semi-literate read saw a T-shirt that said "Iraqi Freedom" and instead of recognizing it as an incredibly ironic code name for an occupation, took the words "Iraqi Freedom" literally and thought the guy supported the insurgency. Which is doubly ironic when you think about it, because now the Americans hate the Iraqis for their freedom.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

32. Er, Toby Keith?

Yeah-freaking-right. Call me when a soldier gets attacked at a Phish concert.