How much of this story is true and just exactly where did Allawi ?

[Blue_Roses]

come from? I know there were "mass graves" mainly from the Kurds uprising against Saddam--thinking the US would help--but where does the REAL truth begin and propaganda end:shrug:

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Busload of bodies found from Saddam massacre, says Allawi

Staff reporter and Luke Harding in Baghdad
Tuesday September 21, 2004
The Guardian

The remains of an entire busload of people, including women and children, have been discovered near Hilla, Iraq's interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, claimed yesterday.

The interim government was continuing to uncover many atrocities committed during Saddam Hussein's rule, he told editors in London.

"We underestimated the scale of what happened in Iraq at that time," he said. "So far we have discovered 262 mass graves, with tens of thousands of people. It's unbelievably shocking - truckloads, busloads of people buried."

--snip--

Later yesterday, it emerged that Mr Allawi had told an Arab newspaper that a broken and depressed Saddam Hussein had appealed to him for mercy, saying his regime had meant no harm during the former dictator's years running the country.

"Saddam sent me a verbal message asking for mercy," Mr Allawi said in an interview published yesterday in the pan-Arab daily al-Hayat. "He said they were working for the general good and they didn't aim to harm."

--snip--

Mr Allawi said there was evidence of "linkages" with terrorists, including Carlos the Jackal and Ansar al-Islam, an Islamist group in northern Iraq accused by the US of providing a safe haven for al-Qaida. "I am surprised when I hear people talk about whether the war was justified. If Saddam had had his way he would have turned the whole region into hell."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1309182,00.html


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[clydefrand]

1. I don't believe him any more than I believe Bush!

And just a few weeks ago on this forum, weren't we discussing how Allawi...as reported by an Australian reporter, if I'm remembering correctly...was observed shooting 6 people in the head.

Who in his right mind could believe someone who would do such an atrocious act as this? I say he's no better than Hussein.

[punpirate]

2. Allawi is reputed to once have been...

... one of Hussein's hit men. He's the fellow that reportedly passed on the "WMDs ready in 45 minutes" routine.

After being attacked by Hussein's men in London, he began working for MI6, and later, the CIA, who apparently helped him to arrange terrorist attacks in Iraq in the middle `90s.

He's recently been accused of murdering six prisoners shortly before handover to the Iraqi government.

Now, how much of what he says would be prudent to believe?

Cheers.

[clydefrand]

4. I'm glad I remembered what someone else is

remembering. I think he's rotten to the core. And I'll wager some money that he will take us for everything he can--including the lives of our men and women---and that country will be exactly as it was before--ruled by a dictator!

[Blue_Roses]

5. Okay, I see

dots connecting... Is Allawi the guy that Robert Baer talks about in his book, "See No Evil," when he says they trained Iraqis to pull a "coup" on Saddam in the 90's? I need to read this book, 'cause I saw him talking about the failed coup in '96 on one of the talk shows a year ago.

Making clear sense now:freak:

ON Edit:

Jan. 18 — CIA field officer Robert Baer served on the front lines in the war against terrorism during the 1980s and 1990s, risking his life in some of the world's most dangerous places. In his new book, See No Evil, Baer makes alarming charges about deficiencies in U.S. intelligence that he believes were precursors to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. He says that, as the roots of terrorism were rapidly expanding, the CIA was inexplicably reducing its presence in the field. "We basically closed down," says Baer. "The CIA closed down in the '90s."

During Lebanon's bloody civil war, Baer ran an intelligence network on the dangerous streets of Beirut. He believes he tracked down the man responsible for the 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing that killed 63 people — but says the CIA was powerless to take any measures against him. In another missed opportunity, Baer says, the U.S. failed to support a 1995 uprising in Iraq aimed at ousting Saddam Hussein.



http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/community/DailyNews/chat_bobbaer020118.html

[aquart]

3. These aren't people we bulldozed during the first war, are they?

[Renew Deal]

6. He is going to say this to Congress.

Whenever that happens.