Help: what is a reasonable estimate of TOTAL deaths due to Iraq occupation

[G_j]

??

INCLUDING Iraqi military deaths

just a few links:


http://www.dailypress.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-iraq-us-deaths,0,6765564.story?coll=sns-newsnation-headlines

A Daily Look at U.S. Iraq Military Deaths


By The Associated Press

Published September 11, 2004, 11:38 PM EDT

As of Friday, Sept. 10, 1,008 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq in March 2003, according to the Defense Department. Of those, 762 died as a result of hostile action and 246 died of non-hostile causes. The figures include three military civilians.

The British military has reported 65 deaths; Italy, 18; Spain, 11; Poland, 10; Bulgaria, six; Ukraine, six; Slovakia, three; Thailand, two; and Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia and the Netherlands have reported one death each.

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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0909-24.htm

Published on Thursday, September 9, 2004 by the Associated Press
More Than 10,000 Iraqis Die Violently in Baghdad Region Alone
by Bassem Mroue

BAGHDAD, Iraq - While America mourns the deaths of more than 1,000 of its sons and daughters in the Iraq campaign, far more Iraqis have died since the United States invaded in March 2003. No official, reliable figures exist, but private estimates range from 10,000 to 30,000 killed across the nation.

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http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
Civilian Deaths in Iraq
min 11793 max 13802

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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0208-03.htm

Published on Sunday, February 8, 2004 by the lndependent/UK
The Terrible Human Cost of Bush and Blair's Military Adventure: 10,000 Civilian Deaths
UK and US authorities discourage counting of deaths as a result of the conflict. But academics are monitoring the toll and have identified a grim new milestone


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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/aug2004/civi-a05.shtml

Survey claims 37,000 Iraqi civilians killed in first seven months of war
By James Conachy
5 August 2004
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/iraq/casualties.html

Casualties in the Iraq war
CBC News Online

[NMDemDist2]

1. 50 k is probably about right n/t

[G_j]

2. close to

my rough guess-timate


1,000 US Soldiers
10-20,000 Iraqi Soldiers (?)
19-30,000 Iraqi Civilians (?)
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the numbers below have not been updated for awhile it appears.

British
Combat deaths: 23 (15)
Non-combat deaths: 39 (14)

Multinational forces
Deaths: (Combat and non-combat)

Italy 18
Spain 11
Poland 10
Bulgaria 6
Ukraine 6
Slovakia 3
Thailand 2
Portugal 2
Albania 1
Denmark 1
El Salvador 1
Estonia 1
Georgia 1
Latvia: 1

Canadian
Deaths:
Military 1 (serving with U.S. Forces)
Civilian 5 (1-Red Cross, 1-UN, 1-CCF, 2-contract )

Iraqi
Iraqi deaths: 11,793 to 13,802

During "major combat" (prior to May 1, 2003)
Military Deaths: 4,895 to 6,370
Taken prisoner: 7,300* (as of April 15, 2003)
Iraqis wounded: 5,103

Other Civilians (Estimated)

Journalists killed or died in accidents: 30

U.S. civilians: 44
UN employees: 22
Jordan: 19
U.K.: 8

Syria: 5
Finland: 2

Japan: 4
South Africa: 4
Italy: 3
Poland: 3
South Korea: 3
Fiji: 2
Philippines: 2
Russia: 2
Algeria: 1
Bulgaria: 1
Denmark: 1
France: 1
Germany: 1
Netherlands: 1
New Zealand: 1
Romania: 1
Russia: 1




the biggest variable it seems is Iraqi Soldiers
I've read everything from 2,000+ to 20,000+
(2,000 is a joke IMO)

-number of those who have died from illness due to lack of medical supplies, unsafe water etc.?

-number of wounded/disabled on all sides?

[leftchick]

3. Remember baby Ali?

he died last April in Iraq after suffering all 3 short months of his life from to malnutrition and dehydration. There are hundreds and perhaps thousands of babies that will suffer the same fate.

[G_j]

4. kick