Was Bush's intention to liberate Iraq, or turn Iraq into a battlefield?

[wurzel]

The favorite Bush line today is "It is better to fight terrorism over there than over here". I have to wonder how the Iraqis feel about that. I thought the line was we were there to "liberate" them. Not turn their cities into terrorist battlefields.

[prodigal_green]

1. it was to liberate

the oil.

[Jokinomx]

4. I second that !! Liberate the Oil... he doesn't care about ANYTHING else

[Toots]

8. No oil is a bonus..the true motivation is as it has always been

War Profiteering. Halliburton and Carlyle are making billions if not trillions off war. They control the Defense Industry. They have to shoot off their toys every so often so they can build new ones. As long as the Republicans have control there will be war. They firmly believe that War is Profitable and is the Republican Party for anything other than Profit? Money and Power are the only Gods they truly believe in. God is for the little people who have nothing else. They are masters of exploitation and God is not left out. Only Americans think this is about Religion. No Arab I have ever listened to has mentioned Religion at all.

[Deja Q]

10. Profiteering is evil

We need to be a society. Caring for ourselves and each other. Helping ourselves and each other. To survive and flourish and to share. Not to put one another at each others' throats so that one can make more money than the other.

God never made money. Man did. And the evils that can come from it.

[Quetzal]

2. If you ask Bush

the answer is both + 20 other rationales.

[kcwayne]

3. Bush has instructions, not objectives

The real question is what did the cabal behind Bush want, and it is clear from their own publications in PNAC that they want control of a country in the Middle East from which to project American force and influence.

[slojim240]

5. Republicans need a "war" somewhere to hold on to their base.

If there isn't one already, they will see to it that we cause a conflict somewhere. They know the fear and warmongering are the only things that really can ralley their base and keep it in tack. When it comes to human suffering abroad and at home, they are in the forefront.

The problem is, they have been able to get their base to believe that by starting wars and conflicts, they are keeping them safe despite the fact that the wars kill off our own children, make permanent mental and physical patients out of 1/3 of our able bodied men and result in the incarceration and disenfranchisement of another 25% of them when they return home to no jobs and families robbed of their income.

They are really happy that the education system in this country has failed so miserable to produce a population capable of critical thinking. It makes for cheap labor, a solid voting base, and a population poweless to do anything about their own plight yet deceived into thinking that they are free.

[rhite5]

7. You speak the truth, slojim

[htuttle]

6. Bush's only personal intention was to get re-elected

That's ALL he has ever cared about.

Now, some of his advisors -- ie., the ones who put the ideas in his head -- may have had further objectives going into Iraq, but it's obvious they weren't competent enough to carry them out.

[mrbill]

9. that bad bad man tried to kill your daddy cheney said to chimpy.

a total personal vendetta thing, a business deal gone south.

[HamdenRice]

11. Also killing Arabs is sport ...

for both Christo-fascist crusaders and Zionist Israel-firsters in the Dept of Defense. If you look at the Bush admin's pre 9/11 policy toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it seems clear that there was some constituence within the admin that thought that killing Arabs was somehow in and of itself a good policy. They had internalized Sharon's lifelong policy that killing and humiliating Arabs would eventually cause them to capitulate in complete surrender to Israel. This is not my conspiracy theory; it's the view of much of the Israeli center-left, as represented by analyses in Ha'aretz. The zionists in DOD basically adopted this view. "Shock and awe" was just the Americanization of Sharonist policies toward Arabs in general.

Call it the "west bankization" of the middle east as deliberate policy.

This rationale is slightly different from the Christian fundamentalists around Bush, who actually want to provoke WWIV so that Jesus will touch down in Jerusalem. A new pro-Bush biography actually argues that despite his public stances, Bush really does see the Iraq war as a crusade.

BTW, here in NYC, I've met more than a few life long Democrats who will vote for Bush as a result of 9/11, just because he is likely to kill Arabs -- the nuke Mecca vote, you could call it.

[pretzel4gore]

12. buying time....that's entire purpose

bushinc is overthrowing the legal government of most powerful political entity ever seen, and they know it only takes one series of tough, honest men to derail their entire scheme. No one knows better then they of the quality of mercy of the USA to its perceived enemies; countless mommies and lil babies were buried alive in service of the idea : don't fuk with usa! USA spend 1/2 of humanity's $1.4 trillion military budget, on itself...so bushinc has some idea how precious the US is to the american people.....yet, bushinc, aided by 'mad as hell, we won't take it no mo!' mass media, which REALLY hates the idea of common good including common (ie nonwhite) people! They grabbed the brass ring dec 12th/00 by putting a joker like geebush into white house. The scam had a flaw however: the numbers of the 2k election prove that bush never won, never even came close, lie as they might nevertheless... The machinery and the mathametics would eventually expose bushinc for the thieves they were, and thus the PNAC plans were fast tracked, beginning with the events of 911. It's highly unlikely that the busheviks realized the extent of the horror that we saw unfold....i would betcha several of them cowards crapped themselves when they saw it really going down; bush probably hyperventilated, the hangman literally was in the next room! So the busheviks, and that by then included the majority of the establishment media, set out to BUY TIME. Time weighed so heavy, they needed things to happen, one right after another, and the media needed to fill airtime with all this, to, in effect, entertain the people relentlessly while TIME went by, evidence was buried, loose strings cut off and so on...only hours after the towers fell, cnn announced that osama did it (the dirty rotten bastard)... and after all, 'they' had tried before, remember the african embassies etc? There was therefore a very real anti western islamic movement out there which hated liberality, which bushinc's more extreme backers hated too, to utilize! osama was PERFECT for blame...and (with eye on filling up fox/cnn/etc hours) there were so many opportunities to exploit. The NORC results (a mainstream newspaper study of election result numbers, which were due to publish in sept/01) needed to be taken care of....voila flight 587 falls apart in the air and crashes killing nearly 300 dominican republicans! lol. That occured the morning the NORC results were published....and thanks to the crash, the NORC results were put WAY BACK on page 10 or so....haha. The washington sniper? well boy did that boy ever filler up airtime! Anthrax? same thing...plus gave nazipoo central a chance to frighten some girlie men too! Afghanistan? why our friends the taliban need to be replaced anyway chuckle chuckle) NOT!!! Iraq? Why that's a whole NEW STORY series! months and months of fillerd airtime! (mygod dick, it's working so good, maybe we can start rounding the american people up!)
Why not?
chuckle chuckle.