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goondogger Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:49 PM
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Andrea Mitchell is a whore
After reporting on *'s AWOL memos, she mentions that "some sources" claim the documents may be forgeries. Lazy whore. Would be interesting to do a geneology of how a freeper post turns into reportable news.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:50 PM
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1. They read Drudge.
Drudge reads FreePeeLand. It's that simple.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:51 PM
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2. will CBS answer Andrea 'I Use Judy's Kneepads' Mitchell?
is Rather going to let them accuse them of LYING?

bring it on, I say.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:08 PM
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17. And she has bad skin, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:51 PM
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3. Do you have to use the term "whore"?
Just curious.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:54 PM
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4. Whore is appropriate. Why not?
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goondogger Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:54 PM
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5. No, but
I think it's apt, with all due apologies to fine hard-working prostitutes.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:57 PM
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9. You know what happens to
Whores?

They always get Fucked!

I heard that in a movie and thought it was appropo for our media whores!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:54 PM
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:57 PM
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8. She is almost NEVER fair-very Republican and partisan
in her reporting. She's married to Alan Greenspan.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:03 PM
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15. To which "side" do you belong?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:38 PM
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22. "Our" side, of course.
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 06:39 PM by blondeatlast
He/she said so him/herself.

I've done MY patriotic duty... and a search.

And of course, that profile doesn't stay hidden for long--in many cases.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:42 PM
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24. "Dem and Dimmer": show's what side he's on
and it ain't ours. Not so subtle, is he? :eyes:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:45 PM
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27. Jim has let the quality of his ops slip--there's a definite trend . nt
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:53 PM
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31. Whether they're from FR or CU it's hard to tell
but they're so damn obvious.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:53 PM
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32. Soooooomedaaaaay...
your profile will be avaaaaaailable....
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:15 PM
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34. Cute... Trying to up your post count maybe?
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:58 PM
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11. Yes, whether about Andrea or Leslie Blitzer, it is appropriate. nt
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:59 PM
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12. From Websters...

Whore--

3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain


Sounds like the shoe fits very well in this case.


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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:03 PM
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16. It's not a question of whether "the shoe fits" -- it's a question
of using a sexist term on a progressive board.

Such a shame it even has to be explained. Such a shame there are folks who defend it.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:09 PM
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18. yeah I really don't like seeing that term either
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:17 PM
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20. Ok, then why don't we see something like "Tom Brokaw is a
serial anal-rapist?" to desribe what male reporters do? Why should a derogatory term for a woman be a common adjective?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:46 PM
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28. Whore is synonymous with female???!!!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:02 PM
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33. somehow "man-whore" just doesn't have the same connotation.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 12:39 AM
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41. Calling Dennis Miller a sellout is NOT sexist

I'm sorry that the label 'whore' has such a common association with.. for lack of a better description- female prostitutes.

But that is not the context it is being used in this case.

Contrary to its most common use, the word (like many in the English language) has more than one meaning.

In this case the use of that word is not related to gender in ANY WAY.

If someone were to count them all up, there are probably more male shills in the US media than there are female shills.

I find the shilling of the US media reporters very offensive, and that probably plays a big part in why I am not offended by using that term to describe them.

Try this..

Dennis Miller was very recently a Dem out of work, go watch 20 minutes of Dennis Millers new right-wing show and tell me that using the Webster's definition #3 does not apply.

Is calling Dennis Miller a whore sexist?

In my opinion (and according to Webster's) the answer is NO.

Using that term to describe Miller has nothing to do with gender or sex...

It has everything to do with money and personal gain.

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 01:57 PM
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45. You mean there are no male whores?
That's a news flash.

Bake
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:00 PM
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51. Nobody's been called a whore on this board more than Blitzer.
It's been used equally among male and female "journalists." But I think you were already aware of that.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:44 PM
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25. Thank you, KellyKramer!
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 06:54 PM by mitchum
some people just love becoming hysterical

and the shoe does fit
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:25 PM
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36. One can pick and choose the definitions they like to suit their purpose.
So how about this one then?

whore

\Whore\, n. A woman who practices unlawful sexual commerce with men, especially one who prostitutes her body for hire; a prostitute; a harlot. --Wyclif.

Syn: Harlot; courtesan; prostitute; strumpet.


Unbelievable that we have to fight this battle on a progressive board.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:38 PM
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37. Well. in this case you are the one who is choosing the sexist definition..
What the hell is that? Why are you making the false case that only women can be whores? Women suffer enough without that kind of shit.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 11:25 PM
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40. It's only sexist . . .
. . . if the person reading the word chooses to interpret it that way. The dictionary has more than one definition for 'whore'.


whore ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hôr, hr)
n.

1. A prostitute.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.

intr.v. whored, whor·ing, whores

1. To associate or have sexual relations with prostitutes or a prostitute.
2. To accept payment in exchange for sexual relations.
3. To compromise one's principles for personal gain.



Personally, when referring to the US media, I choose definition #3.

TYY
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 01:32 PM
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44. It's only sexist
because that's the original definition of the word. And it's simply not possible to escape that fact. The fact that it has evolved to sometimes mean a person of either sex who compromises their principles doesn't erase the original and far more commonplace definition and usage. Not too many people can hear or read the term "whore" without thinking, however briefly, of its original and more commonplace meaning -- which meaning is itself sexist. And THAT is why it continues to be a sexist term no matter how it's being used. It's made all the worse by the fact that this time it was applied to a woman, compounding the sexist overtones and meaning.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:27 AM
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42. I did NOT make that claim. I simply provided a definition that oddly
was left out of the list of definitions that the other poster provided from Websters. Here's the #1 definition from Merriam-Webster online:

1 : a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : PROSTITUTE; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=whore&x=22&y=11

Although there are alternate definitions such as a male who engages in sexual acts for money and a venal or unscrupulous person everyone knows that the word "whore" is usually used to refer to a woman and to demean her... and anyone who claims otherwise is helping to make women suffer when they use the term against a woman.

"Women suffer enough without that kind of shit." Bullshit.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:55 PM
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49. "EVERYONE knows..."?
Odd, I know LOTS of people who KNOW that "whore" is a gender neutral term. But, then again, I don't hang out with very many people with misogynist attitudes (or with those who have a lot invested in having a heightened "perception" of said attitudes)
Apparently, our mileages vary.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:01 PM
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52. When you call ONE woman a whore, the connotation is obvious...
when you call a group of people whorish, or even if you say that some woman had whorish principals about something or the other, it's a bit different... then the other definitions apply. The reason I'm sensitive about this is because individual women are called whores all the time here, while that term is not usually applied to an individual man. A group of men or people, yes... like the whorish news networks.

Don't know why I'm responding though... whistling in the wind.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:42 PM
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23. Let's just call her a "female rent boy" then
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:12 PM
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47. I had the same initial reaction
I understand the evolving use of the word "whore" and it generally doesn't bother me here, but to see it linked directly with an individual woman's name makes me cringe a bit.

-wildflower
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:56 PM
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7. I'd Charge Alan Greenspan for Sex Myself If I Were Married to Him.
And triple the price if he was on viagra.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:58 PM
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10. He was close with Ayn Rand...
those of us who are old enough to remember her and her 'philosophy' - she was quite the sex-crazed lady however. Stories abound...
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:59 PM
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13. Yeah, I Know.
Perhaps Alan and Ayn did it in a rock quarry like Dominque Francon and Howard Roark, huh?
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:00 PM
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14. Wow -
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 06:02 PM by PCIntern
great frame of reference...and he married her too - eventually after many goings on!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:50 PM
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35. At last! My DU laugh du jour
I'm having outrage fatigue. Thanks.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 11:04 PM
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39. LOL!!!
nice one, David Z :)
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:13 PM
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19. Mayby Andrea can 'investigate' the source of the memos ....
and stop listening to whispers in hallways ....

The Media is NOT and HAS NOT BEEN doing its job ....
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:30 PM
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21. Whore--
Whore--

3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.

What if a person has no principles?
What if these people actually believe what they are saying?
The days of "objective" reporting are gone if there ever were "objective" reporters in the first place.

The discription of so-called reporters and pundits that spew Right Wing crap needs to be changed. Another term needs to be found because "whore" isn't the correct term for these people.

"Colaborators" ?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:44 PM
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26. At the DNC, Janeane Garofalo said that CNN goes to Drudge for news...
i shit you not.
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Hobo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:47 PM
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29. And the Pope is Catholic, Next
And bears Shit in the woods

Hobo
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:51 PM
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30. So the White House releases forged documents now?
:eyes:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:56 PM
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38. ooo ooo you used the word Whore
didn't you know you can only call men whores?. I see you are pretty new Welcome, but there is a certain type here that cannot tolerate the TRUTH. That is what she is - sorry
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:54 AM
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43. I would think being married to the Fed Chairman...
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 06:55 AM by terrya
MIGHT be a problem along the way. Conflicts of interests? Too cozy to the current power structure?

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Christof Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 01:58 PM
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46. She is a whore.
I don't like her. :grr:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 02:14 PM
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48. "some people say..."
"some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..." "some people say..."

Textbook Faux Reichspropaganda technique exposed on "Outfoxed"

Quite amazing. I'd like to say it's a big shock to see Imperial Corproate TV Pravda sink lower and closer to 1978 Soviet Pravda.

But it's NOT a shock. Not even close.

It's expected.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 03:56 PM
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50. Her husband is an even bigger one....nt
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