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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:01 AM
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Comments from Baghad about Kellogg Brown and Root, scary.
At this site is a plea from a soldier in Baghdad. His name is Spiros. His story links from here.
http://straighttalk.ourfuture.org/security/

This is one of the projects of Campaign for America's Future:
http://www.ourfuture.org/

They are the ones who sponsored the Take Back America conference:
http://www.ourfuture.org/projects/convention/index.cfm
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:07 AM
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1. This makes no difference to the bush America
The bush America is happy with everything, they couldn't care less about what happens in Iraq. The money to pay for it comes out of nowhere, and although there is a huge deficit and oil is at record high prices , it does not cause inflation or a tight money supply or any apparent hardship. It is heaven on earth. Don't worry , be happy.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:22 AM
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2. Thanks for posting this.
This links more directly to the story.


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KBR is currently staffed by mainly non US international personnel along with a growing number of Iraqis. Most do not speak English, none have had military training on defensive driving, proper convoy operations, avoiding ambushes, navigating around IED's , proper procedure for calling in support or medivac or fire support, procedures to follow after taking enemy fire, the list goes on. These drivers are simply paid drivers that are making roughly 5 -8 times our wages and get paid whether the freight arrives or not.

KBR is requesting that US soldiers risk their lives at the hands of inexperienced and improperly trained individuals to provide them with security. Now there is no doubt that we need to protect KBR's missions but we have suggested and to date have been denied the opportunity to run the convoys with properly modified and equipped military vehicles.

We have suggested that we run in the convoys with every third vehicle being a US Army gun truck with proper drivers and fire support. With this arrangement KBR can still haul the freight in their vehicles but we would run the mission and deal with any situations as they develop the way we have been trained to. This is the only way that most of us want the missions to be run, the others are just afraid to be opposed to the decisions our leadership is making.

Here is where you come in. Out of a desire to honor the oath we took upon entering the army we do not want to disobey a direct order if and when the order comes for us to ride with KBR. We do however want to make all the lawmakers and politicians aware of the danger we are being unnecessarily exposed to on these missions.

Our hope is that each of our friends and loved ones back home will take a few minutes and send out emails to any local, state, and US congressman and senators and demand that they require the US military to stop this practice of allowing US troops in KBR vehicles.


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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:36 AM
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3. yet another issue that Kerry could be hammering Bush with ...
but isn't . . . he needs to be raising one new issue like this each day, and have documentary evidence and supportive surrogates lined up to support each day's message . . . there are literally thousands of such issues on which Bush is vulnerable . . . if Kerry starts raising them, he can have BushCo reeling within a week or two . . . they won't know what hit them . . .
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:05 AM
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4. Kick!
:kick:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:32 AM
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5. Kicking this for the morning. Important
:kick:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:48 AM
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6. Here is the part that angers me so much.
SNIP..."Now I know you are asking yourself what in the world this has to do with you.

Let me explain... KBR is now requesting, and the army is allowing, US soldiers to ride "shot gun" in KBR convoys hauling KBR goods all over Iraq. KBR is afraid to be out on the roads alone and want our US soldiers to risk their lives riding shot gun for their missions.

KBR is currently staffed by mainly non US international personnel along with a growing number of Iraqis. Most do not speak English, none have had military training on defensive driving, proper convoy operations, avoiding ambushes, navigating around IED's , proper procedure for calling in support or medivac or fire support, procedures to follow after taking enemy fire, the list goes on. These drivers are simply paid drivers that are making roughly 5 -8 times our wages and get paid whether the freight arrives or not.

KBR is requesting that US soldiers risk their lives at the hands of inexperienced and improperly trained individuals to provide them with security.
Now there is no doubt that we need to protect KBR's missions but we have suggested and to date have been denied the opportunity to run the convoys with properly modified and equipped military vehicles.

We have suggested that we run in the convoys with every third vehicle being a US Army gun truck with proper drivers and fire support. With this arrangement KBR can still haul the freight in their vehicles but we would run the mission and deal with any situations as they develop the way we have been trained to. This is the only way that most of us want the missions to be run, the others are just afraid to be opposed to the decisions our leadership is making......"
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:47 AM
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7. New privatized military: 8 x cost, no training. text book PROFITEERING
Support Our Troops - Redefeat King George.
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