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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:21 PM
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WOW - The Brits Have A PNAC Project too-Maggie & Ronnie started it

Hidden Agendas by Pilger

http://pilger.carlton.com/media/articles/19226


"In this space a fortnight ago, I reported that the Anglo-American or "Atlanticist" freemasonry known as the British American Project for the Successor Generation was meeting in New Orleans. This is a Reaganite enterprise, set up by the extreme right in the United States and launched in 1983 by Ronald Reagan himself, who called on a "successor generation" on both sides of the Atlantic to "work together on defence and security issues": in other words, to maintain the imperial project. Five members of the Blair government are "alumni", including the Defence Secretary, George Robertson, and the ubiquitous Peter Mandelson. Blair's "100 per cent" support for bombing Iraq was a striking example of Atlanticism in full cry.

A number of journalists have been "introduced" into the Successor Generation fraternity, quite a few them from the BBC. "Projects" need journalists for obvious reasons. Enjoying the luxury of the Royal Orleans Hotel last week, the "debates", the jazz and the Mississippi river cruise, all expenses paid, was Evan Davis, the economics correspondent of Newsnight.

I asked Davis if he knew the background to the Successor Generation: who started it and why. He said he knew "they don't court publicity"; in any case, "respectable companies like British Airways are involved" (BA provided his free air ticket). As for attending such a conference, this was, he laughed, "a very BBC-ish thing to do". He seemed to think it was all a bit of a lark. "Do you think I'll be indoctrinated and end up running guns to Nicaragua?" he said. I pointed out that Nicaragua had long been dealt with. But like his colleagues, he will be on an Atlanticist "alumni" register drawn up to promote, however indirectly and discreetly and with more freebies and more flattery, the very same ideology that denies medicines and ambulances to a stricken people."




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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 03:52 PM
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1. And the actual title at the link says a whole lot
Journalists who enjoy freebies and flattery turn the truth upside down, by John Pilger.

Your excerpt also makes me think of organizations like NED (National Endowment for Democracy) which is a so-called "non-governmental" agency, but is funded by Congress and was put together to do the CIA's work without the hassle. Instrumental in funneling money to fund the attempted coups (plural) in Venezuala, most recently (of the projects we actually know about, that is). NED has a BUNCH of Demos on their board. Of course, it's certainly possible tht these Dems actually support the real work of the NED, who knows? (I think Bob Kerrey is a member, but he's not the only one.)

And all of that (and more, such as the DLC) reminds me of this Lenin quote:

The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves. -- Lenin
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:08 PM
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6. I watched Bob Kerrey on C Span last nite-pushing ID cards &
I didn't like what I was hearing..

"What are you afraid of? that the government will know more about you?
the IRS knows more about me than I'd like it too, but it's not used against you - oh yeah, once it was - but we dont have that anymore"

he's not that much of a fool. he's got to be a part of it.

ID cards reminds me of Europe, when you went there and stayed in a hotel you had to surrender your passport to the concierge at the front
desk. so the polizia could come in and check who was where, at night.

As an American, I felt violated.

And that's what they're trying to do here.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 04:24 PM
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2. PNAC is definitely international...it is basically your uber rich fascists
vs everyone else. The more corrupt the better. That's why I have no doubt Bush was part of 9-11...for the cause, you know.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:03 PM
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3. isn't something like this REALLY a conspiracy?
these are governments who have joined together to conspire against their own people.


Cheez - it just gets worse and worse.

did you read dimson got 660 Million from Congress for a 50,000 man
World Army of "peacekeepers" ?

euphemism for mercenaries.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:04 PM
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4. agreed - we pretty much got the proof of that in
Sibel speaks Farsi thread.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:06 PM
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5. BFEE....
.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:09 PM
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7. BFEE, I'm ashamed to admit I really dont know what BFEE
stands for..

duh.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:13 PM
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8. bush family evil empire
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:13 PM
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9. Bush Family Evil Empire n/t
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:42 PM
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10. thanks guys. Can we find out anymore about the "ATLANTACIST"
or " British American Project for the Successor Generation "
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 01:16 AM
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11. kick it -
:kick:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:40 AM
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12. 1999 New Statesman article on the British American Project
(they've dropped the 'Successor Generation' bit). The New Statesman is a British centre-left magazine; I thinkm from what the article says, it's where Pilger's article originally appeared.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FQP/is_4436_128/ai_55015426

It doesn't sound so much like an equivalent of PNAC, more the Davos or Bilderburg meetings - up and coming influential people are invited to talk to each other for a week.
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