Right Wing Plot-Coup OIL rich Equat Guinea by Brit Lord Thatcher -Arrested

[Pallas180]

Well, there they go again. Where there's oil there's Right Wing governemnt or ex government officials. This time Brit ex PM Lady Margaret Thatcher's son is arrested in the plot which apparently contains other high ranking and titled Brits.

Time for a google, and we might add the names Bush, Carlyle, Cheney,
you know, the usual suspects. <smile>


http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,10590814%255E912,00.html



Police link Archer to Thatcher `coup plot'

By MICHAEL SEAGROVE in London and GORDON RAYNER in Cape Town
28aug04

SOUTH African police want to interview Lord Jeffrey Archer concerning the Mark Thatcher "coup plot".The men who arrested former British prime minister Lady Margaret Thatcher's son over his alleged involvement in a plot to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea have a list of people believed to have invested up to $250,000 in return for rewards when the oil-rich nation was overthrown. The top name is "JH Archer", who paid $191,000 into a Guernsey bank account held by mercenary leader Simon Mann just four days before Mann and a planeload of men were arrested in Zimbabwe. Lawyers for Lord Archer, whose Christian names are Jeffrey Howard, stopped short of denying he paid the money but insist he had "no prior knowledge" of the plot. The disgraced peer is a friend of Mark Thatcher from his days as Tory party deputy chairman. At the time of the payment, he was on parole after being released early from a four-year jail sentence for perjury. One South African detective said: "We don't care if it is Lord Archer or a lottery-winning roadsweeper. We will hunt him down and have a serious chat and then, if we have the evidence, extradite him to face trial in South Africa." News of the Scorpions' plans came as Baroness Thatcher stood by her 51-year-old son. She has been told he could face 15 years in jail but is convinced he will be cleared. Lady Thatcher, who arrived back in London yesterday after breaking off her US holiday following her son's arrest, has not yet spoken to her son, but family friend Lord Bell said: "She's obviously distressed. But she's very confident about the South African legal process and sure he will be found innocent."

Her son's problems grew yesterday, however, when Equatorial Guinea said it wanted him extradited from South Africa on suspicion of involvement in a coup attempt. Thatcher – described by Lord Bell as "a close friend" of former SAS soldier Mann – remained under house arrest in his $5 million Cape Town home amid disputes on whether he was planning to flee the country when police swooped on Wednesday and claims he has received death threats. Police sources said he had put his house on the market for $4.5 million and booked tickets to fly to Dallas with his American wife, Diane....Friends also mocked suggestions that the Thatcher house was full of suitcases when police raided it. One said: "The suitcases are always kept in the hall...... Thatcher, estimated to have a $150 million fortune, has yet to provide a court with the $460,000 bail that allowed his release into house arrest.



London businessman Greg Wales said yesterday Thatcher and his wife received death threats from Afrikaaner friends of the mercenaries held in Zimbabwe since March. .......Mr Wales is one of four men being sued for millions in compensation by lawyers for the Government of Equatorial Guinea. Writs have been issued at the High Court in London against Mr Wales, Mr Calil, Mann and exiled opposition leader Severo Moto on the rarely-cited legal grounds of civil conspiracy.

-snip-

She said: "He's denied any direct involvement in the Equatorial Guinea plot but he obviously knows a great deal about it. He did say to me that he had had meetings with Simon Mann, Mark Thatcher, himself and another I believe over 20 meetings and that this certainly appeared to relate to Equatorial Guinea and I think to other interests that they shared"....... One witness in the Scorpion investigation may be James Kershaw, described as Mann's right-hand man.


-more-

[Pallas180]

1. more headlines" Panic letter from jail tied big names to coup plot

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/27/1093518094785.html?from=storylhs



"The men on board the Boeing 727-100 had allegedly been on their way to mount a coup in Equatorial Guinea, a small, malarial country in west Africa ruled by a tyrant, but newly and filthily rich in offshore oil."

Instead of a coup amid untold riches, Mann found himself staring down the barrel of a long prison sentence - or even execution if an extradition request from Equatorial Guinea was successful. So he penned a letter on scraps of paper to his wife and lawyers, insisting they should marshal rich and influential friends to get him released.
But his letter linked the coup adventure to a coterie of right-wing businessmen with links to the highest echelons of the British establishment.

Since the coup plot was alleged at Harare airport on March 7 there have been murmurings about Thatcher's involvement. He and Mann were close friends who owned substantial properties in Constantia, the Cape Town suburb popular with rich expat Britons.

It remains unclear what evidence the South Africans have to tie Thatcher directly to the coup, beyond Mann's letter. There have been rumours he made an investment in Mann's Logo Ltd company through a South African company, Triple A Aviation, which in January signed a contract with Logo to provide aircraft and aviation services.
According to his lawyer this week, Thatcher was arrested on suspicion of financing a helicopter linked to the coup plot.

-snip-

Preparations for the coup were soon set in motion by Mann through two companies based in Guernsey, Logo Ltd and Systems Design Limited. Mann sold some of his shares and put in more than $A500,000 to cover the cost of a converted Boeing 727 that was bought a week before the coup attempt from a firm in Kansas.

Using his military and arms dealing contacts, du Toit helped to recruit the mercenaries - apartheid-era soldiers in South Africa - and to introduce Mann to the head of the Zimbabwean Defence Industry in Harare.


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/27/1093518094785.html?from=storylhs

[Pallas180]

5. Equatorial Guinea 66 mercenaries acquitted, leader Simon Mann guilty

Diary of events in alleged coup plot

Independent Online - 32 minutes ago

"London - A court in Zimbabwe on Friday acquitted 66 suspected mercenaries charged with weapons offences in an alleged plot to topple the government of Equatorial Guinea but found their leader, Simon Mann, guilty."

Here's the timeline of the discovery of the Coup:

London - A court in Zimbabwe on Friday acquitted 66 suspected mercenaries charged with weapons offences in an alleged plot to topple the government of Equatorial Guinea but found their leader, Simon Mann, guilty.

President Teodoro Obiang Nguema has said foreign countries and companies were conspiring to replace him with opposition politician Severo Moto, who heads a government-in-exile in Spain.

Here is a short chronology of the suspected plot:

March 7, 2004 - Zimbabwe seizes a United States-registered cargo plane carrying about 64 suspected mercenaries and a cargo of military gear.

March 8 - About 15 suspected mercenaries are arrested in Equatorial Guinea in a probe linked to the plane in Zimbabwe. Most of the suspects in both groups are South African.

March 10 - Zimbabwe accuses US, British and Spanish spy agencies of involvement in a plot to topple Equatorial Guinea's government.

Nguema thanks South Africa and Angola for warning him of the plot and says it was funded by "enemy powers" and multinational companies operating within Equatorial Guinea.

March 16 - Zimbabwe charges a total of 70 suspected mercenaries with conspiring to murder the president of Equatorial Guinea.

July 19 - Nguema seeks damages in London's High Court against the men he alleges plotted to overthrow him.

July 27 - Sixty-seven of the 70 suspected mercenaries plead guilty to lesser charges of violating Zimbabwe's immigration and civil aviation laws and are quickly convicted.

July 28 - Simon Mann, a former SAS member accused by Zimbabwe of leading the suspected mercenaries, pleads guilty to attempting to possess dangerous weapons.

August 18 - In Zimbabwe, 66 of the men, excluding group leader Mann and three others, deny charges they unlawfully attempted to "possess or acquire" a slew of weapons from state arms firm Zimbabwe Defence Industries.

August 23 - Fourteen suspected mercenaries go on trial in Equatorial Guinea.

August 25 - South African police arrest Mark Thatcher, the son of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, on suspicion of involvement in the alleged coup plot.

August 27 - Zimbabwe acquits 66 suspects of weapons offences charges but finds their leader, Mann, guilty of attempting to possess dangerous weapons.

[MisterP]

2. I recall work to get the Anzar gov't. in line behind Moto if the coup won

does anybody happen to have a link lying handy?

[Pallas180]

31. do you mean the agreement to send Spanish War Destroyers?

Is it incredible or what?

[Skidmore]

3. Is Sir Mark affiliated with the

Carlyle group in any way?

[Pallas180]

4. Great minds travel the same paths - That's how we got all

the dope on cheney-wmd

google google...

but there are several names in those news reports that we could try
googling...

bethcha Dame Margaret is wishing Ronnie could be revived (how mean of
me)

but if you read that stuff, these guys actually go out and buy cargo planes, helicopters to hire coups....and mercenaries.

Part of the Wonderful World of pappy's and trilateral's " New World Order


Hey - guys - pick a name or two and google

you'll be surprised how it leads to other names, companies, that you
might recognize.

Let's see if we can track this back to BUSHCO- after all it's oil and
al of a sudden junior has been visiting Africa and expressing interest


DUH what? Junior cares about Africa....hmmmm, he must want more
yellow cake, mine plutonium, and OIL OIL OIL

where there's oil, there's a BAker, Cheney, Kissinger, Armitage,Cheney's kids maried name is Perry, Szignew Brzinski....
maybe some Senator's names....maybe a Saudi, Pakistani...

it's like let's play "Where is Waldo hiding (under another name)"

:hi:


ai yi yi, chihuahua, this lil yappy doggy follows me wher'er I go.

[enfield collector]

10. wouldn't surprise me if the thatcher crime family was in bed with them.

[Pallas180]

17. Hmmm-Thatcher has been in Middle East deals with Saudis &

in trouble before:

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/08/26/wthat226.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/08/26/ixnewstop.html

and here's more:

1984 when the Observer alleged that he benefited from his mother's position when a large construction deal in Oman was awarded to a building firm, Cementation, with which he was involved, after Mrs Thatcher visited the tiny Gulf state. The accusations were never proven.

Further controversy dogged him through his friendship with the Middle East businessman Wafic Said - a quiet-spoken Syrian with close links with Saudi royalty.

Among other business ventures in the 1980s, he was involved in several large-scale arms deals, most notably a £20bn contract between British Aerospace and Saudi Arabia.But it is recorded that his wealth grew to the point where he spent periods as a tax exile in Switzerland.

In the 1990s he helped secure the multimillion pound contract for his mother's Downing Street memoirs, but after the failure of a security alarm business in the US and a prosecution for tax evasion, Mark, his wife and their two children moved again - this time to South Africa.

Three years after the move to Cape Town, in 1998, he was investigated by South African police over a money-lending business to police officers. He counter-claimed that officers working for him as agents had defrauded him and the investigation was eventually dropped.

[Pallas180]

19. Hey , Maggie and Reagan agreed on a transatlantic PNAC

looking it up now.

[Pallas180]

23. SKIDMORE - you asked if Sir Mark Thatcher was connected to Junior?

Above, we found a company named TRITON was Junior's

so I googled Triton.

Guess where Triton does business?

BWAAAAA

Equatorial Guinea - what a coincidence!



http://www.qsigroup.com/clients/triton/#


"See Triton's record-setting development of the Ceiba Field offshore Equatorial Guinea – discovery to first oil in 14 months."

Triton Energy is an international oil and gas exploration and production company with major projects in West Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia.

With a record of major hydrocarbon discoveries, Dallas-based Triton Energy stands as one of the oil and gas industry's most successful independent international exploration and production companies.

Triton currently is producing oil in Equatorial Guinea and Colombia. The Ceiba Field offshore Equatorial Guinea, which Triton discovered in October 1999, began production in November 2000. The Cusiana and Cupiagua fields in Colombia began commercial production in 1994. Together these fields provide steady cash flow to fund Triton's operations and continued exploration.

Triton also has discovered several natural gas fields on Block A-18 in the Gulf of Thailand. First-phase gas delivery is scheduled from one of these fields no earlier than the fourth quarter of 2002.
* * ** ** ** ** *** ** *** **

What's funny is , nowhere on the site can I find the name of any
CEO or officer or member of the company... but one of the nespaper articles above mentioned Triton as George W. Bush's company.

[Pallas180]

6. Timeline of discovery of attmepted coup and Thatcher-Archer involved

London - A court in Zimbabwe on Friday acquitted 66 suspected mercenaries charged with weapons offences in an alleged plot to topple the government of Equatorial Guinea but found their leader, Simon Mann, guilty.

President Teodoro Obiang Nguema has said foreign countries and companies were conspiring to replace him with opposition politician Severo Moto, who heads a government-in-exile in Spain.

Here is a short chronology of the suspected plot:

March 7, 2004 - Zimbabwe seizes a United States-registered cargo plane carrying about 64 suspected mercenaries and a cargo of military gear.

March 8 - About 15 suspected mercenaries are arrested in Equatorial Guinea in a probe linked to the plane in Zimbabwe. Most of the suspects in both groups are South African.

March 10 - Zimbabwe accuses US, British and Spanish spy agencies of involvement in a plot to topple Equatorial Guinea's government.

Nguema thanks South Africa and Angola for warning him of the plot and says it was funded by "enemy powers" and multinational companies operating within Equatorial Guinea.

March 16 - Zimbabwe charges a total of 70 suspected mercenaries with conspiring to murder the president of Equatorial Guinea.

July 19 - Nguema seeks damages in London's High Court against the men he alleges plotted to overthrow him.

July 27 - Sixty-seven of the 70 suspected mercenaries plead guilty to lesser charges of violating Zimbabwe's immigration and civil aviation laws and are quickly convicted.

July 28 - Simon Mann, a former SAS member accused by Zimbabwe of leading the suspected mercenaries, pleads guilty to attempting to possess dangerous weapons.

August 18 - In Zimbabwe, 66 of the men, excluding group leader Mann and three others, deny charges they unlawfully attempted to "possess or acquire" a slew of weapons from state arms firm Zimbabwe Defence Industries.

August 23 - Fourteen suspected mercenaries go on trial in Equatorial Guinea.

August 25 - South African police arrest Mark Thatcher, the son of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, on suspicion of involvement in the alleged coup plot.

August 27 - Zimbabwe acquits 66 suspects of weapons offences charges but finds their leader, Mann, guilty of attempting to possess dangerous weapons.

[ElementaryPenguin]

7. Of course the Bush Crime Family is connected...(sample)

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:gDF6krkFkA0J:www.lawdiscussion.com/archive/t-27022_The_Bush/Riggs_Bank_Connection.html+%22Equatorial+Guinea%22+%2B+%22Jonathan+Bush%22&hl=en

[Pallas180]

8. Yup, has to be the cabal. --Spain was sending warships - could u believe??

emad aisat sana (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-27-04 08:12 AM
Original message
Thatcher: Spain 'secretly backed coup by sending warships'


Time Online
From Edward Owen in Madrid


Snip:
THERE was growing speculation in Madrid last night that the centre-right Government of José María Aznar, defeated by the socialists in elections in March, supported secret plans to stage a coup in Equatorial Guinea, a former Spanish colony. The plot involved the overthrow of the dictator, President Obiang Nguema, and the installation of Severo Moto, a veteran political exile in Spain who is backed by rich British businessmen.

Although no links have surfaced between Spaniards who knew about the alleged coup plot and Sir Mark Thatcher, statements made after the main group of mercenaries were detained in Zimbabwe would appear to confirm Spain’s clandestine involvement. As the mercenaries were allegedly completing their plans to topple Mr Obiang, two Spanish warships slipped out of the Rota naval base near Cádiz in January. The frigate Canarias was supported by a combat vessel Patiño with 500 crack troops and marines on board. No official announcement was made but those on board knew they were headed for Equatorial Guinea.

Since Rota is a Nato base, used by the United States, one would assume that the US knew of the mission as well as their close allies, the British. Spain had not sent warships to Equatorial Guinea since it gained independence in 1968 — well before oil was found.

But someone, South Africa is a suspect, told the Spanish press. The two warships docked in the Canary Islands and the apparent objective of their voyage was aborted. On January 31, Ana Palacio, the then Foreign Minister, claimed that the unannounced visit by the Spanish navy to Equatorial Guinea had been postponed by the government and that the ships “were not a war mission but one of co-operation”. Eduardo Zaplana, Señor Aznar’s government spokesman, said that it had been considered “opportune” to postpone the visit “until the elections” had taken place in Guinea. He also said that the warships had been diverted “because of the misunderstanding produced by press reports”. Spain’s El País newspaper reported at the time that Equatorial Guinea was rife with rumours of an attempted coup prior to the April elections.

This week in Spain, various media reports suggest that Mr Moto, the veteran leader-in-exile of Equatorial Guinea, who has lived in Madrid for many years, was either on board one of the warships or had been flown to Mali in anticipation of a triumphant return to his fatherland. One report suggested that the Spaniards were going to grant Mr Obiang exile in Spain and arrange for his transfer to either the Canaries of the mainland. Yesterday neither the Spanish Foreign Ministry nor Mr Moto’s press office would comment on the mission of the warships or plans to replace Obiang with Moto. “Severo Moto had nothing to do with the coup,“ his spokesman told The Times.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1234705,00.ht...

[Pallas180]

9. Well then here's another money laundering bank -Guernsey Bank

was mentioned in the articles above.

Cheez --

we're uncovering the whole cabal

American Judas is in Editorials

Sibel Speaks Farsi is in GD

and now this.....

tsk - the cabal is not having a good horoscope - bwwaaaaahaha

[Pallas180]

11. Mark Thatcher 'planned to relocate to Texas'

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1003632004


Mark Thatcher 'planned to relocate to Texas'

FRED BRIDGLAND IN JOHANNESBURG AND KAREN MCVEIGH


MARK Thatcher was arrested by a crack South African police unit in connection with an African coup attempt because he was planning to quit his luxury Cape Town home and relocate to the United States next week, a senior detective said yesterday.

Thatcher, who is today under house arrest in his luxury home on the slopes of Table Mountain, had already sold his four vehicles, including two top-of-the range off-road vehicles, said Inspector Andrew Leask.

News of his planned departure emerged amid reports that a key witness in the investigation has disappeared. Jack Kershaw, a computer expert who is alleged to be the coup paymaster, appears to have gone to ground. His home and mobile telephones in South Africa are now registering unobtainable.

It was reported yesterday that Mr Kershaw, in his late 20s, is believed to be carrying the "wonga list" - the names and contact details of wealthy and powerful individuals who contributed funds to finance the alleged failed coup.

[Pallas180]

12. Hope young Jack has a good hiding place-he has names of all involved

News of his (Thatcher's) planned departure emerged amid reports that a key witness in the investigation has disappeared.

Jack Kershaw, a computer expert who is alleged to be the coup paymaster, appears to have gone to ground. His home and mobile telephones in South Africa are now registering unobtainable.

It was reported yesterday that Mr Kershaw, in his late 20s, is believed to be carrying the "wonga list" - the names and contact details of wealthy and powerful individuals who contributed funds to finance the alleged failed coup.

[Pallas180]

13. Here we go - bush junior's connection

"Dallas-based Triton Energy, which has close ties to President George Bush, Exxon Mobil and Chevron Texaco have together invested more than US$5billion in Equatorial Guinea's burgeoning oil production, predicted soon to provide five percent of US oil needs.

After oil company lobbying, the US embassy in Malabo, Nguema's capital, was reopened two years ago after being closed in the early 1990s when the ambassador received death threats."

[Pallas180]

15. and here's a couple more names besides Triton:

He ( Simon Mann ) and

Nick du Toit,

a South African being held as a co-conspirator in Equatorial Guinea, set up Executive Outcomes,

which operated from Pretoria in South Africa and helped the Angolan government protect its oil installations from rebels during that country's long civil war.

[Pallas180]

30. Hey Penguin, THERE'S A TROJAN VIRUS ON SITE YOU RECCOMEND ABOVE-DONT USE

tHANKS

[Joanne98]

14. CNN: Maggie (Iron Lady) Thatcher distressed

Then they showed a clip of her staggering (slightly) into to her London apartment.
Poor Maggie. It's been a rough few months. First she had a stroke, then Saint Raygun died, then Riggs Bank got caught for money laundering and Pinochet's money popped up which caused Chile to revoke his protection and NOW the Heir to the Thatcher Crime family has been busted trying to steal "darkies" oil. DAMN. Life is tough.

what old Maggie don't know..... the dogs of Karma understand...

Thankyou Gawd!!!!!!!!

[Pallas180]

16. Hi Joanne - yep, life is tough for these guys since we got the internet :)

I think Maggie probably installed her son there years ago...

didja catch the oil companies involved?

[Pallas180]

18. Off Topic - HOLY CARP-US killed 7000 Somali civilians -things we didnt kno

http://pilger.carlton.com/media/articles/19226

from Brit paper talking about what media doesn't tell

"I was reminded of this while watching a recent episode of the BBC's Timewatch series which celebrated another war: the American assault on Somalia in 1992. Here again, the truth was turned upside down. The Americans were deployed on a "humanitarian mission" and found themselves menaced by people who, one of them said, "appear to be primitive". An American general was allowed to make specious, unchallenged statements; the message was that his men avoided picking fights with armed factions. What went unmentioned was that the US angels of mercy picked fights with civilians. Much was made of the helicopter gunner whose body was dragged through the streets.

There was no mention that the Americans killed between 7,000 and 10,000 Somalis, mostly civilians. That is the CIA's estimate, which was never news. It is at least four times the number killed by the Chinese army in Tiananmen Square."

[goforit]

20. The rich revolution against the innocent-poor!!!...Greed overunneth!!!

[Pallas180]

21. GOFOR - it's more than that: Reagan & Maggie agreed on a BRIT PNAC-talk

about conspiracies...you;re right..it's a conspiracy of those who consider themselves the "elite" rich against the un-elite.

Look at this:

The Brits Have A PNAC Project too-Maggie & Ronnie started it in 83- no wonder they loved each other so much..


Hidden Agendas by Pilger

http://pilger.carlton.com/media/articles/19226


"In this space a fortnight ago, I reported that the Anglo-American or "Atlanticist" freemasonry known as the British American Project for the Successor Generation was meeting in New Orleans. This is a Reaganite enterprise, set up by the extreme right in the United States and launched in 1983 by Ronald Reagan himself, who called on a "successor generation" on both sides of the Atlantic to "work together on defence and security issues": in other words, to maintain the imperial project. Five members of the Blair government are "alumni", including the Defence Secretary, George Robertson, and the ubiquitous Peter Mandelson. Blair's "100 per cent" support for bombing Iraq was a striking example of Atlanticism in full cry.

A number of journalists have been "introduced" into the Successor Generation fraternity, quite a few them from the BBC. "Projects" need journalists for obvious reasons. Enjoying the luxury of the Royal Orleans Hotel last week, the "debates", the jazz and the Mississippi river cruise, all expenses paid, was Evan Davis, the economics correspondent of Newsnight.

I asked Davis if he knew the background to the Successor Generation: who started it and why. He said he knew "they don't court publicity"; in any case, "respectable companies like British Airways are involved" (BA provided his free air ticket). As for attending such a conference, this was, he laughed, "a very BBC-ish thing to do". He seemed to think it was all a bit of a lark. "Do you think I'll be indoctrinated and end up running guns to Nicaragua?" he said. I pointed out that Nicaragua had long been dealt with. But like his colleagues, he will be on an Atlanticist "alumni" register drawn up to promote, however indirectly and discreetly and with more freebies and more flattery, the very same ideology that denies medicines and ambulances to a stricken people."

[goforit]

24. So deep, yes indeed......and definitely outrageous. But,

One bright light is that they are very sloppy at it!!!

And they are failing big time.

Every nation is now ready for their "pretend terrorism",
and they won't need a smoking gun to know who is behind this.

This will all come to an end and these thugs will
be on their hands and knees.

Maggie and Ronnie, well.....Believed what they could do
with Argentina is what they could do with one and all.
(Bully the World)

Their biggest fall, ofcourse, is always using the same blueprint
to accomplish their greedy plite.

Imperialists fail in the end.
As Rome has always proven.

[Pallas180]

25. I hope you're right. They're pretty well entrenched, private armies,

This is what Chavez was fighting..they tried to coup him - amazing he
survived it..

Equatorial Guinea caught them in the act...


They're in control of most of the countries' governments in the world
I think, definitely including ours. And because the media is a part of
it..people dont know.

It's pretty discouraging.

[Pallas180]

22. Good Brit article comparing dimson to Maggie's dimson.LOL

http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/003421.php


this is the end of the article, but the whole article is worth the
read - very tongue in cheek - sarcastic Brit


"And now both are in a spot of trouble with the law for trying to overthrow foreign governments.

After a lifetime of doing business with arms dealers and oil barons, Mark Thatcher is now having to deny links with Nick du Toit and a plan to plunder into Equatorial Guinea for its oil and give two million rand to get bail from the South African courts. But maybe it's a coincidence.
While Bush may have broken even more laws than Mark.

All in all, it makes you very very glad indeed that we don't have a dynastical system of government like the Americans. Because if Mark Thatcher had been able to swindle his way into politics, he wouldn't have needed to get involved in these '70s-movie scenarios with coups and oil and diamonds and gold. He'd be the Prime Minister, and our troops would currently be in Equatorial Guinea, possibly looking for WMDs."

[Eloriel]

26. Oy, that last graf is a doozey

and SO true.

[Pallas180]

27. Yah Eloriel - the Brit author doesn't seem to think much of

either Awol or Screwup - I found the article to be funny, but I'm
not sure he meant it to be. :)

[Deja Q]

28. Throw that inhuman bitch's son (and her) in jail for life.

They're all scum who've both committed crimes against society and have yet to pay for it.

[Pallas180]

29. 20 years later, Reagan/Bush/Thatcher plan still ongoing. Boy,

these people really really really think and plan long term.

How dumb have theAmerican people and the democrats been? ?

[Pallas180]

32. Just another every day destabilization of a 25 year old govt. by ???

Equatorial Guinea suspends trial, seeking information on Thatcher

By Associated Press Tuesday, August 31, 2004

MALABO, Equatorial Guinea - An Equatorial Guinea court Tuesday suspended trial indefinitely in an alleged coup plot in this oil-rich nation, saying it wanted more information on the alleged roles of Mark Thatcher, son of the former British prime minister, and other international financiers.

Attorney General Jose Olo Obono asked for the suspension, saying it was ``in the interest of transparency in light of new information coming out everyday - these new elements like Mark Thatcher's detention and questions about the financing.'' The three-judge tribunal agreed, saying international investigations needed to be finished before the trial could go on.

Thatcher was placed under house arrest in South Africa on Aug. 25 after he posted a $2 million bond. Prosecutors accuse Thatcher and his alleged co-conspirators of scheming to replace Obiang's 25-year-old regime with a puppet government, and South Africa is considering a request by Equatorial Guinea to question him.

[Pallas180]

33. Latest on Thatcher attempted coup

emad aisat sana (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-01-04 09:47 AM
Original message
‘Case grows’ against Thatcher: new details emerge


The Times
From Xan Rice in Johannesburg


Snip

A KEY witness in the alleged coup plot in Equatorial Guinea is said to have struck a deal with the South African authorities that will significantly strengthen their case against Sir Mark Thatcher. Crause Steyl, who owns an aviation firm in the Free State province, said that he received $250,000 (£140,000) from the former Prime Minister’s son shortly before the bungled mission in March.The money was transferred to a company run by Simon Mann, the former SAS soldier accused of organising the operation to overthrow the Government of the oil-rich country.

A senior police source confirmed yesterday that Mr Steyl was providing evidence that would bolster their case against Sir Mark. “This is a very sensitive part of our investigation. Mr Steyl is himself under investigation, but he is co-operating fully and has given us good information,” the source said. “There will be a lot more to come.”

Prosecutors believe that Sir Mark’s money was used to hire the Boeing 727 that stopped to pick up weapons at Harare Airport on March 7. The 67 suspected mercenaries on board, including Mr Steyl’s brother Jaapniel who was piloting the aircraft, were arrested.

Sir Mark has maintained that the payment to Mr Steyl’s Triple A Aviation was an investment in an air ambulance service to be set up in West Africa. However, Mr Steyl is understood to have told the police that Sir Mark knew all along that the money would be passed to Mr Mann and used to fund the coup. Mr Steyl could not be reached for comment yesterday.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1241218,00.ht...

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Du Toit may be pardoned in return for 'co-operation' seemslikeadream Sep-01-04 09:56 AM #1
Maybe...."President Obiang wants to see you.’.... emad aisat sana Sep-01-04 10:05 AM #2
Thanks - I'm adding this to my Equatorial Guinea thread. Pallas180 Sep-01-04 10:45 AM #4
Mark Thatcher: the Money Trail seemslikeadream Sep-01-04 10:08 AM #3


seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-01-04 09:56 AM
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1. Du Toit may be pardoned in return for 'co-operation'


Du Toit may be pardoned in return for 'co-operation'
By Kim Sengupta
31 August 2004


One of the men accused of masterminding the attempted coup in Equatorial Guinea could be pardoned, the country's government said yesterday, after a court in the capital Malabo postponed his sentencing to examine Sir Mark Thatcher's alleged links to the plot.

Ricardo Obama Nfube, the Deputy Prime Minister, said that Nick du Toit may receive mercy in exchange for co-operation with the authorities. He also stated that Equatorial Guinea had asked for international arrest warrants to be issued for Sir Mark, who was arrested at his home in Cape Town, South Africa, last week.

The trial of Mr Du Toit and 18 other men accused of being mercenaries planning to carry out a coup in Equatorial Guinea resumed yesterday, with the focus moving to the alleged role of Sir Mark. Mr Du Toit has claimed that Sir Mark was at a planning meeting for the coup to overthrow President Teodoro Obiang. Sir Mark has denied any involvement in the coup.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/africa/story.jsp?st...


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emad aisat sana (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-01-04 10:05 AM
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2. Maybe...."President Obiang wants to see you.’....


President Obiang wants to see you.’ There were no discussions, only orders
By David Lister
The Times

What a difference a day makes. On Monday our correspondent was ordered out of court, yesterday he was invited to meet Equatorial Guinea’s rulerPresident Teodoro Obiang Nguema during his brief statement to the press in Malabo, the capital of Equatorial Guinea. Photograph by Richard Pohle IT ALL began with a telephone call. “You must come downstairs now,” said the receptionist, his bold voice failing to disguise his nervousness. “I have here a message for you from the President.” Barely 24 hours after being ejected from one of his courts for taking notes, The Times was yesterday part of a small group of journalists ushered through the gold-embossed gates of the colonial-style palace of President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo.

This time there was none of the usual dithering inefficiency that accompanies encounters with officialdom across sub-Saharan Africa. At 2.30pm all foreign journalists in Equatorial Guinea, most of them here to report on the trial of 14 suspected foreign mercenaries implicated in a coup attempt allegedly financed by Sir Mark Thatcher, were summoned to one of the country’s crumbling old hotels. There had been rumours all weekend that President Obiang, a ruthless dictator said to eat the testicles of his political opponents, wanted to address the media, no doubt to reaffirm his shaky grip on power after whispers about his health and suggestions that it may not be too long before there is another attempt to topple him.

Only last week a German visitor was slung in a cockroach-infested jail in Malabo, the capital, for venturing too close to the presidential palace, while on Monday I was forced to tear a page from my notebook after taking notes at the trial of the alleged mercenaries. After deciding to leave the courtroom, I was prevented from going anywhere by a glazed-eyed soldier at the gate. Thirty minutes earlier he had refused me entrance to the compound, but now he was equally adamant. “You are to stay here,” he said, spilling whisky from a flask as he gesticulated wildly. These are paranoid times in a country said to have an army of only 1,400 men to guard offshore oil reserves that are generating more than 350,000 barrels per day. It is no surprise if the President, who at the weekend took possession of a brand-new $55 million (£30.5 million) private jet, feels a little jittery.

Yesterday, however, I walked through the gates of a building that most of Equatorial Guinea’s 500,000 population can only dream of entering. In a transformation that was extraordinary even by the standards of this bizarre, oil-rich nation, within a day The Times had gone from being persona non grata to honoured guest. As we arrived at Plaza de la Independecia, where a bust of the President sits in the middle of the square above the title “El Libertador”, dozens of armed soldiers sealed off the surrounding streets. Outside the colonnaded palace, inherited from the country’s former Spanish rulers, Moroccan bodyguards in black suits stood next to a pair of black Mercedes-Benz bearing the presidential number plates “PR” and “PR-004”.There was no discussion, only orders. “This is not a press conference. He will say welcome and thank you. If you are not happy, you will take the door,” explained an adviser as reporters were led into a grand entrance hall where gold statues of two eagles perched at the bottom of a wide marble staircase. Red carpet covered the ornate mosaic floor, while on a wall above the entrance were the Spanish words “Unidad, Paz, Justicia” — “Unity, Peace, Justice”. Some of us had deluded ourselves into believing that the President might take questions, when at 2.56pm a whisper of “C’est le President!” swept the room.

The Moroccan bodyguards, lent to the President by Morocco’s King Mohammed VI, glanced furtively across the courtyard. More than a dozen soldiers put their hands on their weapons as besuited lackeys poured out of a side door. Even the country’s unflappable Security Minister, in a uniform bedecked with medals, appeared uneasy as he snapped to attention. Then a lean, bespectacled man walked slowly towards a velvet and gold podium and began talking in Spanish in a voice that was almost inaudible. The 62-year-old leader, whose wealth can only be guessed at, appeared anything but the savage his enemies depict him. An earnest-looking, immaculately dressed man, he appeared every inch the statesman in his blue suit and tie. “I want to thank you all for coming here,” he said, a translator standing by his side. As we strained to listen to every word, he said that the coup attempt in March, over which nearly 90 suspected mercenaries are now languishing in jails in Equatorial Guinea, Zimbabwe and South Africa, might have triggered a “macabre situation” and an ethnic conflict similar to that in Rwanda a decade ago. The mercenaries had intended to “carry out a crime against our country that would have resulted in blood being spilt”, he said. While it was not his place to comment before the court in Equatorial Guinea delivered a verdict in the case of the suspected foreign mercenaries, they would meet their “condemnation”, he added. After barely a dozen sentences and without taking questions, he looked up and spoke again: “That’s all I have to say for now. Thank you very much.” It was 2.59pm; just three minutes had passed. It was all over, and what had he actually said? With a speed that defied his age and rumours that he has prostate cancer, the President left. His lackeys were already rolling up the red carpet and we were being ushered back out of his inner sanctum. He was wise enough to offer us only a tantalising glimpse, the briefest of insights into his secretive world. And I know that, like all his downtrodden subjects in this tiny country, the next time I go anywhere near his palace I will probably be arrested.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,172-1241219,0...





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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-01-04 10:45 AM
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4. Thanks - I'm adding this to my Equatorial Guinea thread.

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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-01-04 10:08 AM
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3. Mark Thatcher: the Money Trail


Banking records show Air Ambulance Africa paid $100 000 into Logo's account on March 2, days before the alleged coup attempt.

The head of Air Ambulance, Crause Steyl, this week refused to comment, saying: "Please don't call me any more."

Steyl's brother, Neil, piloted the Boeing 727 that carried the 70 alleged mercenaries currently held in Zimbabwe on arms charges. Still in custody in Harare, Neil Steyl formerly worked as a pilot for South African mercenary outfit Executive Outcomes in the 1990s, in which Mann was also involved.

Sources close to the investigation say Air Ambulance Africa provided a twin-engine King Air turboprop aircraft, which flew the exiled Equatorial Guinean opposition leader, Severo Moto, from Spain to Bamako in Mali on the eve of the alleged coup bid, apparently in preparation for his return to power.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200408270682.html