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kerrywins Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:39 PM
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Suckers for Jesus!
Just wanted to say...love that article...well done DU!
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:41 PM
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1. Yeah. Great article. Love it too.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:52 PM
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3. And on that note
I think it would behoove us to get together a concise "What Would Jesus Do?" pamphlet to pass out at churches in the swing states.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:52 PM
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2. Excellent! I was talking to someone yesterday about this subject...
... the fusion of Ayn Rand's atheist philosophy and Christian fundamentalism. I find it hard to believe that so many Christian conservatives are collectively that stupid... I could be wrong.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:13 PM
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4. having your opinions handed to you is easier than thinking
and having a minister tell you that you can bribe your way out of hell with large contributions to his church/televangelist ministry is a whole lot easier than having to cope with all those pesky good works. It's certainly a lot easier on the blood pressure than having to figure out how to love your neighbors, the ones with the patchy lawn and barking dog, you know who I'm talking about.

Some of these folks actually do outreach ministries, but they seem incapable of connecting the dots between socially irresponsible GOP policies and the need for such outreach that grows every year.

I have no clue on how to break through the logjam in their heads that says morality is restricted to matters of sex, and only for women and gay men. I really have no clue how to make them realize that the GOP is intensely unchristian, their policies destroying hope as they kill thousands. I guess the only thing we can do with folks like this is wish them the best as we march them back to the fringes and hope they get bored with Paul and selected parts of the OT and actually read the words of Jesus in Matthew and Mark.

In the meantime, if one sings the praises of the moral Bush to me, I just tell them he's unchristian and smile, letting it drop.
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kerrywins Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:36 PM
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5. "having a minister tell you that you can bribe your way out of hell"
great point!!!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:38 PM
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6. Outstanding article.
Well worth the read.
:kick:
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:42 PM
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7. Are there any pamphlets that list the

WWJD topics?

I'd like to mass email it to my repug email list.

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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:56 PM
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8. Interesting, but I disagree entirely with the Libertarian view
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 05:01 PM by Frangible
Libertarians are NOT right wing shills. Perhaps some are, but none of the libs I know.

Most of the Libertarians I know are 20somethings that grew up with the internet, and began to see coprorations and their legislative puppets start to pass laws restricting personal freedoms.

These people aren't out to underfund schools as the article implies. Nor are they corporate shills, nothing could be further from the truth. Ask them what they think of the RIAA-- you'll get pure, unmitigated hatred in response.

It is from democrats and republicans both they view the loss of personal freedoms happening. Indeed, the DCMA and patriot act both had strong bipartisan support, so this belief is based on fact.

Libertarians by and large aren't out to destroy America's schools, but instead want to protect the bill of rights and personal freedoms.

I am not a libertarian myself, because I view trusting corporations and downsizing government to the degree of the official LP party line as too dangerous. My motto is trust no one, we need a good system of checks and balances to ensure that neither government nor corporations abuse their power.

However, I do believe in the bill of rights and personal freedom as they do, and it saddens me to see more and more bills sponsored and written by corporations passed through with bipartisan support that strip our rights away.

The upcoming INDUCE act, sponsored by the corporate puppet Orin Hatch, is a good example of this. (sadly, it's also cosponsored by democrats)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d108:75:./temp/~bdopUw:@@@P|/bss/d108query.html|

(edit: link got butchered, try this instead: http://xrl.us/cr98 )

In the remake of the Manchurian candidate, electronic mind control is needed to control politicians. In the real world, we know it's much easier and cheaper than that.
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