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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:20 AM
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9/11: why BCCI London class action and Calvi murder trial matter
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 11:25 AM by emad aisat sana
I was looking at Minstrelboy's excellent posts about BFEE corruption summed up by:

"That intelligence agencies, financiers, terrorists and narco-criminals have a long history together is well established, but the Nugan Hand Bank, BCCI, Banco Ambrosiano, the P2 Lodge, the CIA/Mafia anti-Castro/Kennedy alliance, Iran/Contra and the rest were a long time ago, so there’s no need to rehash all that. That was then, this is now!"

and agree with that analysis. However, there is a big piece of the jigsaw missing which I think is highly relevant to the DU agrument re the current state of world politics:

In June 2001 Tony Blair authorised the hostage-taking of the UN Head of Military Intelligence in London by a gang of former terrorists, money launderers and fraudsters given a whitewash under his 1998 "Good Friday Agreement" that let previously convicted IRA and quasi-IRA terrorists off the hook in order to secure a tentative peace deal in the UK. This was never reported in the press.

That Good Friday Agreement was largely brokered by former NI Secretary Peter Mandelson whose other posting at the UK's Department of Trade and Industry ensured that cold-war secrets tombstoned by Margaret Thatcher about the massive criminal activities of Robert Maxwell and his sons Kevin and Ian remained inaccesible in the public domain. Also the supporting roles played by UK and US defence intelligence agencies who used Maxwell to broker agreements that finally resulted in the eventual collapse of the USSR.

That fact was never reported in the press and neither was the subsequent gargantuan private law suit that The UN Head of Military Intelligence launched against Blair in the UK, and Bush in the US.

There have been a series of hearings In Camera in London and in Washington DC since late 2002 where evidence is being heard.

Some of it relates DIRECTLY to evidence still to be heard in the BCCI London class action as well as in Italy in the Roberto Calvi murder trial, where 30years' of hard data is going to be made public for the first time in evidence supplied by the UN Head of Military Intelligence.

Other supporting evidence relates to Iraq WMDs and which will show that both Blair and Bush knew intelligence sources were extremely dodgy but gambled on a massive political victory in Iraq, prior to UK WMD expert Dr David Kelly's untimely "suicide" last July in Oxforshire, UK.

And finally, the jewel in the crown is a series of video-taped intelligence briefings from late 1998 to mid-2001 in the UK and US defense departments giving precise and exact information about the planning and potential execution of the major US terrorist threat that became known as 9/11. Those have been held in maximum security storage as the personal property of the UN Head of Military Intelligence. They show all personnel, both political, judicial and military who had prima facie prior intelligence about the 9/11 attack and who actively ignored it/gagged it/attempted to destory all connecting evidence to it.

The BCCI and Calvi lawsuits will hear evidence ammassed for over 45 years in the UK and US by UN Security Council executives showing the roots of the criminal gang that is responsible for the 9/11 atrocity. The same gang that selected George W Bush/Dick Cheney after the 2000 election fiasco and who held the Clintons to ransom following their entrapment over the Whitewater affair in which Robert Maxwell and his associates played a large and so far unpublished part.

This has been a very long and drawn up process judicially. Those who have had access to the above information and who are involved in the legal proceedings can only smile, knowing that the full horror will be unveiled and justice finally done.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:39 AM
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1. I'm listening emad
and impatiently waiting for the unveiling!

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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:54 AM
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2. London is like a pre-earthquake frenzy at the moment with the
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 11:56 AM by emad aisat sana
"buzz" being centred on WHO is going to be first to break the news that the Blairs have lost almost £1million personal investment from savings in Kevin Maxwell's latest business fiasco, as referred to in Independent on Sunday report on 1 August about the collapse of Meynard which "owes Global Investment £1 billion":

Post #175 at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=15554&mesg_id=17339

refers
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:56 AM
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3. Do you really think so?
>>
This has been a very long and drawn up process judicially. Those who have had access to the above information and who are involved in the legal proceedings can only smile, knowing that the full horror will be unveiled and justice finally done.
>>

If it's been kept quiet all of this time, you really think it will come out as a result of these lawsuits?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:10 PM
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4. As far as I am aware, UN Head of Military Intelligence has not
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 12:17 PM by emad aisat sana
made any public statements about June 2000 kidnap ordeal, Blair's role in it or sub-judice evidence yet to be heard in the law courts where the suit is being heard. The only inkling the UK press has about this is a series of in-camera hearings held under D-Notices (UK Ministry of Defence gagging orders).

However, a series of police reports into Kevin Maxwell's property dealings which form part of the supporting evidence in civil lawsuits against him in the UK all refer to sub-judice evidence with D-notice restrictions in those in-camera High Court hearings.

Those property dealings are directly connected to the July 1986 murder of UK estate agent Suzie Lamplugh, who officially "dissappeared" without trace despite subsequent corroborated witness accounts that have identified the killer,*** murder weapon, close associates, their bank accounts, passport numbers, tax returns, property portfolios investigated etc. Now being sub-poenaed: statements made by senior police investigating officer retired Assistant Deputy Commissioner Sir John Grieve QPM (whose darling daughter was a bosom pal of Lamplughs) and Dame Stella Rimington, who was in overall charge of the Lamplugh/Kevin Maxwell investigation up to 1992 prior to her elevation to head of MI5 by Carlyle director and ex-UK PM John Major.

Edit: *** what happened to the body that has officially never been found: the name, rank and public record of the property owner in whose former property the body is interred, and the reason for that person's spectacular fall from public office following the first shots being fired in the Iraq war.



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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:11 PM
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5. Well, this is certainly a head-turner:
And finally, the jewel in the crown is a series of video-taped intelligence briefings from late 1998 to mid-2001 in the UK and US defense departments giving precise and exact information about the planning and potential execution of the major US terrorist threat that became known as 9/11. Those have been held in maximum security storage as the personal property of the UN Head of Military Intelligence. They show all personnel, both political, judicial and military who had prima facie prior intelligence about the 9/11 attack and who actively ignored it/gagged it/attempted to destory all connecting evidence to it.

Hope you're right. If you have more to share, that'd be great. And is this your own work, or is there another source (i.e., did you forgt to post a link)?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:24 PM
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6. There's no internet link but I am reliably informed that former
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 12:30 PM by emad aisat sana
members of the Senate Intelligence Committee and the UK's Defence Intelligence Committee (ie those who sat prior to the 2000 presidential election) are about to be given a private viewing of the video-tape as a result of requests to the UK High Court legal action where Blair is being sued for illegal hostage taking.

I have a very reliable senior legal/judicial source to all this who is currently involved in the BCCI class action, where QC Gordon Pollock has finished outlining the plaintiffs' case and the defence opening arguments were just being submitted before the summer recess (ends in about 10 days).
Wish I had more!

Edit: spelling...



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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 03:36 PM
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7. Well, I certainly hope you'll keep us posted
This is stunning stuff. REALLY stunning. Thanks.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:05 PM
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8. Who is the UN Head of Military Intelligence? (n/t)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:08 PM
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9. A very unlucky person, it seems
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x488217

"Blair turned a blind eye when his chums in the IRA took the UN Head of Military Intelligence hostage in the summer of 2000."

That makes it twice in a year or so. They must be quite pissed off by now.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:26 PM
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10. typo?
I'm guessing it only happened once
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 04:39 PM
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11. Ian Huntley's father? (or was that Blair) nt
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 07:43 AM
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15. Huge UK fiasco about child murderer and paedophile Huntley.
Edited on Fri Aug-20-04 08:02 AM by emad aisat sana
His entire background was whitewashed over by the Humberside police (whose chief constable David Westwood was thrown out of office some six weeks ago) who claimed they couldn't put allegations of rape or abuse on his criminal file because it would be a violation of his human rights under the Data Protection Act. Also by Humberside and Cambridgeshire Social Services. That's how he got a job as school caretaker (janitor) in Soham and managed to murder Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.

One of the investigating officers (Det Con Stevens) in Cambridgeshire Police was last week jailed for paedophile computer porn offences and lying to the internal investigation about him. Also thrown out of the police. Stevens was one of the family-liaison officers who comforted the parents of the murdered girls and read out a tearful tribute to them at their subsequent funeral.

Re Humberside Police Chief Westwood: Westwood's sister is a senior London social worker married to one Edward Creasey, whose criminal background is cited:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=734567

Huntley's parentage as reported in the UK press is as much of a whitewash as the rest of the rotten crap that surrounds the enablers that his his criminality for so many years and must surely take some of the blame for the brutal murder of two innocent 10 year old girls in August 2002.







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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 07:34 AM
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13. If George W Bush and Dick Cheney DON'T know ...do you
really think anyone is going to tell YOU?????
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 07:45 AM
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16. but you said the UN Head of Military Intelligence
had launched a private law suit against Bush. Surely he must know?

Do you want us to search the archives to find out? It gets confusing at times, I know, but I'm sure they will turn out to be related to someone we've heard of.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 07:51 AM
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17. I see that once again subtle humour eludes you....
You can search all the archives in the world and MIGHT find something about this, but I wouldn't put money on it.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:08 AM
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18. Have no fear, it turns out the DU archives have the information
aren't we lucky to be the world's leading repository on all this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=507582

It turns out that, according to this thread, The UN Head of Military Intelligence is Lady Truman, daughter of The Duke and Duchess of Windsor, and the world's first test tube baby! And she's married to Harry S Truman's brother's grandson, who, despite being a leading psychologist with many publications, has managed to keep his name entirely out of public life. It's tough leading from the shadows, I'm sure.

Strangely, all this information comes from you, emad. Still, you did say it would be in the biography of Wallis Simpson due out last June. Is it a good read? Can you point me to any online bookstores offering it?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:29 AM
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20. As far as I know the biography HAS come back from the printers
and is scheduled for UK publication. Haven't heard WHY the original June 30th publication date has been changed but do know that there was some litigation left hanging over from a Hollywood film producer/director who had claimed the rights to do a movie on Wallis's life and was taken to court by the Trumans who hold all the copyrights to everything connected with her, her family and their assets. Will try to find out more about this and whether any unfinished legal business with this movie business is in any way connected to a change of publication date for the biography.

All I have seen in the press/internet is that Faye Dunaway had been originally pencilled in to play the lead role and that financing of the movie was up and running. But that it then was quashed in the US and UK civil courts over copyright issues.

I also understand that there might have been an appeal about the Wallis copyright operating in the US where they want to make the picture but that the Trumans are still blocking this by citing copyrights taken out in the US where Wallis was born, lived for many years and held many assets, including those passed onto her daughter who still holds them there. A house in New York's Sutton Place, real estate in Los Angeles and extensive industrial holdings in Florida and Texas.

From my knowledge of them I would say that they are as secretive as any billionaires in the US about their assets, family circumstances and litigation successes.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:40 AM
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21. Copyright applies to, well, copy
you can't copyright the facts of someone's life, only articles, books, screenplays and so on. And why should the Trumans delay publishing something because someone else is making a film? They'd only do that if the film maker held the copyright to something.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:52 AM
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22. As I understand it they own the copyright to all the documents
Edited on Fri Aug-20-04 08:54 AM by emad aisat sana
that belonged to Wallis and the Duke of Windsor. When the Wallis film was proposed the Trumans took the movie co to court to stop the film because they hold all the papers that relate to her, as well as the copyright to the biography that is to be published. An alternative movie script may also be involved based on the as yet unpublished biography.

The movie makers initially backed down and asked for first refusal on buying the film rights to the book. There was some negotiation. Then the movie people tried to go ahead regardless and appealed a US lawsuit judgement that would have made it very tough to try to sell make a film without the Trumans' co-operation.

I think the bottom line is that the courts have ruled that until all previously unpublished personal material about Wallis is in the public domain it is very hard to make a true bio-pic about her because copyright-holders of personal documents would have a field day in the courts challenging any unauthorised portrayal as merely hearsay - a risk that movie backers would be unwilling to risk.

As I understand it it's a similar legal position to the Franklin Mint / Diana Foundation fiasco which is to be heard in the US next month where issues of copyright of UK Royal Family is to be battled out.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:59 AM
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24. Yes, I can understand why the film makers might get held up
if their screenplay depended on private documents. But that doesn't explain why the Truman family, who you say holds copyright to the personal papers, are held up too. They can publish whenever they like. The equivalent here would be Diana's family being prevented from producing something with her face on it. They can obviously do that - the dispute was whether the Frankin Mint could as well.

What's the name of the publishing firm again?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 09:16 AM
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25. As I understand it the biography is being published privately by
them via one of their charitable foundations The Truman Trust registered in the Channel Islands and operating in the US from a family property in Sutton Place, NY, and in London.

My personal input into sub-editing/editing some of the editorial material was done in premises near Canary Wharf in London that were in close contact with printers based in Antwerp. Material I was allowed to see and check at galley-proof stage and some at page proof stage related mostly to Wallis's life post 1972 after the Duke's death and contained many family photos of grandchildren which I have never seen published elsewhere. Also papers relating to her JFK award of the Presidential Medal of Freedom and lawsuits she won when she took the Queen Mother to court for slander/gross defamation in 1973 (settled out of court). Some documents relating to her will/estate and the US Sotheby's auction in 1998 of surplus itmes from the estate.

It may be a matter of impact: Trumans hold all the papers/historical documents and their publishing rights, and have delayed their move to put these into the public domain for whatever reasons - political, maybe technical/legal. If a movie deal is on the cards, I expect that the Trumans want an overall editorial control of contents. Given the controversial nature of the subject matter, this is not surprising.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:59 AM
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23. Who's publishing the upcoming Wallis Simpson biography?
Just the name of the publisher will help. Odd that a publishing house, usually interested in selling books, has been keeping this project so totally under wraps.

And IMDB.COM shows no future projects for Faye Dunaway. Of course, projects pop up on the IMDB when they're still internet rumors. So far, there's not even a rumor about the newest Wallis biography.

Of course, we peasants cannot be expected to understand the ways of the truly rich. We'll leave that to those who care.




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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 09:21 AM
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26. Post #25 refers.
Not odd at all to keep such a bombshell under wraps and to choreograph its timing....

The Faye Dunaway film biz was first mentioned in the press in 2001.

Wealth: do you envy, say, "peasants" like (for sake of argument) Rolling Stones who became mega rich from obscure/poor backgrounds via their talent?
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:59 PM
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12. A must kick
:kick:

Off subject, but my better half worked on a yacht that Robert Maxwell and his family chartered (many years ago). In my better half's words: Maxwell was a fat slob — a crude, uncouth pig (stories of personal hygiene too gross to share). Also told me that one of the son-in-law's father invented the birth-control pill. For what it may be worth - :-)
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:19 AM
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19. I too have a personal connection. I am the owner of a London
property (for over 20 years now) which in 1989/1990 suddenly became embroiled in Kevin Maxwell's property disputes in the UK civil courts.

He claimed to be the owner of a large portfoilo of UK properties which he then mortgaged to finance his post-Mirror Group bankrupcy businesses including Telemonde and now Meynard.

I went all the way to the House of Lords to prove that Maxwell did not own my property as he alleged. Through these law suits I got to know over 50 individuals in the UK who were also in the same boat where they were told that their homes were not theirs but Kevin Maxwell's and that he had mortgaged them to the hilt and that the finance companies were now calling in the loans.

My home was claimed ny Kevin Maxwell through a series of dud business deals via his mother, whose younger sister is married to a bent ex-bankrupt London fraudster called Start Gold, a great personal chum of Blair's "Middle East Envoy" Lord Levy.

As you can imagine, litigation is pretty expensive and nasty. Even nastier when a Maxwell is involved. But I won and learned a great deal about the post-Robert Maxwell business empire of his appalling sons Kevin and Ian, whose criminal activities have been protected by Thatcher, Major and now the Blairs.

Here's extracts from The Independent on Sunday about his alleged property assets:


1 AUGUST 2004:
Kevin Maxwell, the son of the disgraced newspaper tycoon, Robert, faces a financial meltdown this week. The High Court will hear an application on Wednesday to wind up Meynard Freres, the finance operation run by Mr Maxwell (pictured right), Malcolm Grumbridge, a long-time associate of the Maxwell family, and Larry Trachtenberg, an American-born financier who ran businesses for Robert Maxwell before his death in 1991. Both Mr Trachtenberg and Mr Maxwell were acquitted of fraud and theft offences relating to the disappearance of more than pounds 400m from the pension funds of companies in the Maxwell empire, which collapsed in late 1991.

The controversial businessman is battling to avoid personal bankruptcy and to stop the winding-up of his main remaining business interest. Both Mr Trachtenberg and Mr Maxwell were acquitted of fraud and theft offences relating to the disappearance of more than pounds 400m from the pension funds of companies in the Maxwell empire, which collapsed in late 1991. Mr Maxwell was declared bankrupt when he was deemed responsible for the losses, but discharged his bankruptcy three years later. Mr Maxwell then set up a telecoms company, Telemonde, which was listed on the Nasdaq market in the US. However, this company, where Mr Trachtenberg was also a director, collapsed two years ago.

Since then, Mr Maxwell has been operating via Meynard Freres, a business he set up in the mid-1990s. It has been active doing financial and property deals. It was involved a few months ago in the purchase of the business and assets of Astec Engineering Services, a Midlands business that had run into difficulty and was restructuring under a company voluntary arrangement (CVA). The CVA was supervised by a north London insolvency practitioner, David Rubin. Mr Rubin presented a winding-up petition against Meynard Freres at the High Court on 24 June because of moneys still owning under the Astec deal. A hearing is due on Wednesday and if Meynard does not pay up it is likely to be closed down. No one at Meynard returned calls when contacted about the potential winding- up. Mr Maxwell faces being declared bankrupt before this happens. Judge Michael Payne at Oxford Crown Court gave him 45 days in the middle of June to pay a debt of pounds 1bn owing to a company called Global Investment.

This 45 days runs out tomorrow, and if Mr Maxwell has not paid, Global can take him back to court and have him declared bankrupt. Global's solicitors, Beachcroft Wansbroughs, was not able to confirm that any money had been paid. Global had previously issued a petition to wind up Maynard Freres but that petition was dismissed in May. Despite his financial problems, Mr Maxwell, 45, lives in a 40- room home, Moulsford Manor, overlooking the Thames near Oxford. The house, which is held in the name of his wife, Pandora, was put up for sale with a pounds 3m price tag last year. But after six months on the market it was withdrawn. Family money has enabled all of his six children to be educated privately and the eldest, Tilly, is studying at Oxford. Mr Maxwell is often seen dining at top London restaurants such as Locanda Locatelli and The Wolseley. He was unavailable for comment on his financial problems.
From:
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=12569477&BRD=1675&PAG=740&dept_id=226966&rfi=6


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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 06:23 PM
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27. Fascinating
Always enjoy your posts! Whenever I see a thread with posts by you, Seemslikeadream, Octafish, or Minstrel Boy - I don't want to miss it.

Thank you!
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 07:38 AM
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14. CORRECTION: JUNE 2000 not june 2001. Apologies...
Have checked with my source it is definitely JUNE 2000.
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