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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 07:29 PM
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Iran warns of preemptive strike to prevent attack on nuclear sites
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/040818/1/3mio0.html

Bush making world safer. Yeah, right.

Why is it okay for Israel to have nuclear weapons in the Middle East but everyone else must be prevented from acquiring them?

US foreign policy has created the evil of "terrorism".

At one time, Iran HAD "democracy" but that became a problem for the capitalists when Mossedeq nationalized the British oil refineries. At the behest of Great Britain, the CIA helped instigate a coup to overthrow democracy in Iran and install a "Shah" to rule with an iron fist that was on friendly terms with the West.

Which gave birth to Islamic Fundamentalism that became an outlet of anger and frustration directed at the "infidel" Western powers.

Now with Bush placing an invading and occupying army on its borders, is it all that shocking to wonder why they act the way they do?
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 07:43 PM
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1. we may well find that
the precedence of "pre-emptive" war comes back to haunt us even more than our arming and funding of Wahhabi nutjobs.

Although no doubt were Iran to actually carry through with this it'd somehow be in a different category to Bush's pre-emptive war. Despite the Iranians having a more legitimate claim to self defence from Israel than US had with Iraq.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 08:17 PM
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2. Bush has legitimized pre-emptive strikes.
If the US can do it then Iran should be able to do it.
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 08:21 PM
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3. ...actually Israel did that when they took out Iraq's nukes
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 08:25 PM
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4. I hope Iran does the right thing. What America would do if
threatened by a foreign power.

The US is playing with fire. IMO
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 08:34 PM
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5. Are you wishing for an attack? That is unconscionable.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:03 PM
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6. I want Iran to do what America would do.
Iran should defend it's Sovereignty with ALL available means.

Just as the USA would.

Take it anyway you want it is not unconscionable it is the right of every Nation State to Defend itself from aggression.

If Israel or the USA want to preemptively attack Iran
Then the gloves are off IMO.

This is no game Iran will defend herself. If you think Iraq is a fuck up watch what happens if Israel or the US attack Iran.

No I am not "wishing for an attack" that's up to the USA & Israel.

It's their choice & if they make the wrong one I hope Iran makes the right one. This has to stop may as well stop with Iran.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:52 PM
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8. I assumed you were calling for Iran to make an unprovoked,
pre-emptive strike against someone (US, Israel) like Bush did in Iraq. OF COURSE if we strike first, Iran will fight back. That's not what I was talking about, and I didn't think it was what you were talking about.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:20 PM
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7. A preemptive strike to prevent a preemptive strike to prevent a
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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:57 PM
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9. I would support a pre-emptive strike on Iran.
Allowing Islamic Jihad or Hezbollah to acquire nuclear weapons is *not* an option. Think of how many people would die if Los Angeles or Tel Aviv were nuked.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:26 AM
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10. well looking at history
ie that the US is the only nation to have ever used them, and the most recent nation to invade and occupy a foreign nation perhaps the rest of us should "strike" the US in order to prevent them building yet MORE WMD's.

Pre-emptive strikes are illegitimate - always. Defensive is one thing - pre-emptive is another kettle of fish altogether. Why the hell should some nations be allowed to have nukes and not others - Iran hasn't invaded anyone recently have they?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 12:29 AM
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11. Yah, the US is the 'good guys' and Iran is the 'bad guys'
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 12:30 AM by K-W
great foriegn policy Mr. Kristol

Did it ever occur to you that the US and Isreal have been threatning Iran for quite a while, and overtly in the Bush administration, and that both the US and Isreal already have nukes?

Its like I walk up to a man and point a gun at him and say "I have it in my mind to shoot you." And then the man reaches for a gun and I fire and then claim self defence.

Its ludicris.
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