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charliebrown Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:49 PM
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Can the facts that I work hard and am loyal be used in court?
I have worked for my company for almost 5 years and have always been very productive the whole time. I have recieved good raises yearly and have been praised by My boss.

I was told when I got hired not to go to any political or goverment sites, No e-mail from work, No instant messaging, They said 1st time broke company policy, others made security problems.

They are gonna review firing me or just (which I think they will), Cutting off my internet access).

Joke em if they can't take a F@CK.


They will hurt without my production!!!!
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zuzu98 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:54 PM
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1. What would your cause of action be...
...if you knowingly disobeyed company policy (particularly if you compromised or put their IT system at risk)?
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charliebrown Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:58 PM
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2. Guess I am wrong but...DU on breaks and lunch?
Seemed harmless to me. I wasn't campaining to the shop. But you are right I was wrong.
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Wheelie_Alex Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:59 PM
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3. I love being my own boss. n/t
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:23 PM
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6. The IT manager
is sick and tired of having to deal with the viruses that employees stupidly let into the company computer. THAT'S why you're not allowed to go anywhere, post anything, send or receive email. Not because they really care that much about your politics, but because stupid employees crash company computers constantly.

My spousal unit is an IT manager and he's constantly reminding employees NOT to open attachments, to run anything even remotely suspicious by him first. They don't always bother to follow his advice.

I repeat: it's probably not political content, but the using of the company equipment that's the issue.

Not to mention, you knew perfectly well what the policy was and deliberately violated it. That's probably a firing offense.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:36 PM
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9. You used company computers for your own personal use. whether
you were on a break or lunch is of no consequence.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:07 PM
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4. Anything that is documented can and should be used in court.
Is there a written policy that you cannot "go to any political or goverment sites, No e-mail from work, No instant messaging."

AND did you "sign off" on it? These are the sort of things that they look into in court. Also - document EVERYTHING.

Also - if you have any friends who are influential in the company (are friends with the boss or the Human Resourses/Personnel rep.) or are part of management - that always helps.

The single best person to know and to have on your side: The Human Resources person - if they have to approve terminations, etc. When I was in HR - the EEOC rep and I saved dozens of people from being fired. You go to those people and get your side of the story out BEFORE the boss does.


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zuzu98 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:20 PM
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5. hate to be a nitpicker, but...
that isn't always the case. Just because something is 'documented' doesn't mean that it is admissible.


And it seems quite clear that charliebrown was aware of the policy and violated it on more than one occasion. I think the best course of action is a major mea culpa and voluntary surrender of Internet connection, at least for a while.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:31 PM
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7. Yes - if that's all that happens.
I'm talking about if he is fired.

Why would something that is documented such as yearly reviews, etc, NOT be admissable in court? In unemployment court those documents are HIS property and most certainly should be used. If he/she lost in unemployment court then the next step would be another court such as EEOC/Civil court (if he chose to take it further).

I probably wouldn't take it much further because I don't think he/she would win since they rec'd a warning already.


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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:35 PM
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8. Let's just say...
if that's the best excuse you can come up with for whatever it is you're accused of...you're probably fucked.
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