5 MOST dangerous men in America?

[serryjw]

Someone asked me that question last night. My answer:

Wolfowitz
Tom Delay
Scalia
Grover Norquist
Richard Perle

I wish I could have answred with 10!...and your choice?

[olddem43]

1. Cheney, Rove, Rummy, Bush & Limpbag.

[JuniorPlankton]

4. Bush is just a puppet

[UdoKier]

9. Not entirely. They indulge many of his whims.

I wouldn't be surprised if much of the "faith based" nonsense he's pushed is really one of his peat causes - and that hase been quite harmful.

[merh]

5. Ashwipe, Cheney, Rove/Bush, Rummy, Wolfie

[JuniorPlankton]

2. What about

Cheney?
He should be somewhere in the top 5.

[PhuLoi]

3. Scaif, Cheney, Bush Sr.

[goclark]

6. Poppy is #1

Poppy
Cheney
Poppy
Ashcroft
Poppy
Limbaugh
Poppy

Poppy has been controlling this government for years!

[catzies]

7. Poppy definitely #1

Cheney
Scaife & Murdoch
Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell/Ralph Reed
Rehnquist & Scalia

[serryjw]

14. That's 9!

your cheating!

[jarab]

8. Any five network chiefs....

Who could make or break any five politicians or corporate ceos with a wave of the hand. No crook could survive should he/she be correctly projected as such by the all-powerful media.
Having the power to decide "what we think" makes them dangerous, imo.
...O...

[wadestock]

10. One Man - Limbaugh

#1 - Limbaugh - Most dangerous because he has crafted lies to win over the "heartland" of America....ie....the swing vote that's necessary to get the neocons in. Most dangerous because he is singlehandedly responsible for creating the huge divide in America....and carefully crafted reasons why people should HATE liberals. It is the clever hate component and the way that it's sold that rivals Hitler.

Democrats haven't come up yet with the argument to counter Limbaugh....and will suffer until they do. Countering the lies is not enough. We need to develop a "culture of the middle class" which stops idolizing the rich and realizes that capitalism only works if it works for the people. Not easy of course as we find ourselves involved in a culture of corporate greed. Revelations in true corporate "wealth" brought about through total quality could be a starting point...especially those companies which allow profit sharing and empowerment should be idolized, not those that practice pure greed.

Limbaugh has been keen to develop the "corporate greed fits all" model....in which the "environment" which is created through giving anyone the profits that they so deserve (Reaganism) has to create a positive environment of growth and opportunity for all. Never mind that the Reagan model never did and never would produce trickle down to the middle class without a progressive tax system. He has changed the argument so that it conveniently forgets about the failures of trickle down and simply concentrates on a false argument of hope and opportunity.

One of the worst things about Limbaugh is that he is generally NOT believed to be dangerous. Look closer....and you'll find that after he speaks....the neocons will....almost based on a set timeclock....embellish and start speaking to his isms within about a couple days.

I ran into a ditto head the other day that was a reasonable fellow....hadn't seen him since he retired about 10 years ago. Conversation went great until it turned political and he tried to make me understand, "the wealthy deserve to keep their money because they are the ones that 'take the risk'". I asked him if he had been listening to Limbaugh...and of course he was...."he's a smart man"....he assured me with conviction.

It's absolutely frightening to me what the man is doing....

[seemslikeadream]

11. Maybe Dr. Dov Zakheim

So where is that missing $1.1 trillion?


In a report to the DoD comptroller, Undersecretary of Defense Dov Zakheim, acting Assistant Inspector General for Auditing David Steensma wrote: "We reported that DOD processed $1.1 trillion in unsupported accounting entries to DOD Component financial data used to prepare departmental reports and DOD financial statements for FY2000. For FY2001 we did not attempt to quantify amounts of unsupported accounting entries; however, we did confirm that DOD continued to enter material amounts of unsupported accounting entries to the financial data."

What this gibberish means is that the DoD still cannot account for at least $1.1 trillion from fiscal 2000 under former president Bill Clinton, and the assistant inspector general of DOD wouldn't even touch the unsupported money expenditures for fiscal 2001 because "material amounts" still couldn't be accounted for properly in the year George W. Bush came to power. The trillion-dollar question is how much is "material amounts"? Because the auditor would not "quantify" the amount, some fear it's worse than the previous year's unaccounted for $1.1 trillion.

Of course the Department of the Army, headed by former Enron executive Thomas White, had an excuse. In a shocking appeal to sentiment it says it didn't publish a "stand-alone" financial statement for 2001 because of "the loss of financial-management personnel sustained during the Sept. 11 terrorist attack."

So where is that missing $1.1 trillion? Traditionally the top dogs at the Pentagon haven't liked the word "missing." The rationale at DoD has been that just because the money can't be accounted for doesn't mean it is lost, stolen or strayed. According to Susan Hansen, a spokeswoman for DoD: "These are unsupported entries. When the auditors go to audit the books and they look at the balance sheet for the year, someone has entered in an adjustment because they made an error somewhere."

more
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=246188



DoD Statement on Jack Shaw and the Iraq Telecommunications Contract
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=743997&mesg_id=743997

[irancontra]

12. hmmm

Don Rumsfeld
Bush Senior & David Rubenstein (Carlyle) 2 in 1
Karl Rove
Dick Cheney
Prince Bandar

:evilgrin:

[Shopaholic]

13. Sciafe. Murdoch.

to name just two.

[redandstinky]

15. The real Question is who should be...

indicted first?

vote here:

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/poll/votepage/2/