Which is it George? Are we SAFER? Or are the terrorists about to ATTACK!

[Stephanie]

First we were safer.... (8/9/04)

I try to make my decisions based upon what I think is right. And removing Saddam Hussein from power was the right thing to do. The world is safer for it, and the American people are safer for it, the Polish people are safer for it, and the Iraqi people are better off because of it.

Then the terrorists were about to attack! (8/13/04)

The Bush administration believes more strongly than ever that al Qaeda terrorists plan to try to influence the presidential race with a massive preelection attack, a strike that is more likely to come in August or September than in October, a White House official said yesterday.

Then we were safer... (8/13/04)

President Bush said Thursday that America is "absolutely" better off today than it was four years ago -- on both the national security and domestic fronts.

"The world's safer. ... Libya's no longer a threat. Pakistan is an ally in the war on terror," Bush said in an exclusive interview on CNN's "Larry King Live."

Then the terrorists were about to attack! (8/16/04)

There can be little doubt that Al Qaeda is trying to strike the American homeland before Nov. 2. "We are in the midst of Al Qaeda efforts to attack the U.S. on a scale as big or larger than 9/11," says John Brennan, chief of the Terrorist Threat Integration Center, the interagency operation that consolidates threat information (and produces the Putter).

FLIP FLOP!

Which is it, George? Are we SAFER, or NOT?

[Nite Owl]

1. I would love for that to be one

of the debate questions for *. He would wet his pants if he had to answer that one.

[Davis_X_Machina]

2. Both statements can simultaneously be true...

...if the President says them simultaneously.

Reality has to conform to the President's statements, not the other way round, remember?

9/11 changed everything, see.

[Stephanie]

5. But then he would have to be

talking out of both sides of his mouth. Simultaneously!

Nice to see you, DXM. I remember you from TT back in the day.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

3. He'd have to HAVE a mind in order to make it up

[H2O Man]

4. Both, Stephanie,

and neither. You see, you have sovereignty. And tearists hate freedom. I understand how hard it was for parents to decide which child to serve dinner first tonight. We've turned the corner. And the environment is much better without Sodom Hussein ruling sin city.

[Stephanie]

7. If the terrorists are sovereign

that means we gave them sovereignty. We're sovereign, and the terrorists are sovereign. We're all sovereign entities.

So are they about to attack!?

[michigandem2]

8. ROFLMAO!

I use this phrase often now...to be sovriegn in their soveriegness..LOL! I make up words now...

very funny!

[H2O Man]

9. It's morning in America.

That's because there's lots of time zones. We can put them in alphabetical and/or numerical order. Either way, we are looking at a sequence. If there's blame there, it's to be shared. Bill Clinton may not have murdered Vince Foster with his bare hands, but he damaged the national insecurity. We've had strong programs for patriotism in each of those time zones.

Next question ..... uh, where's that reporter from Fox?

[Stephanie]

10. My opponent has questioned my credulity

but I assume he agrees with me that preemptively invading a defenseless, non-threatening but geographically desirable sovereign (damnit that word is everywhere!) nation was the right thing to do.

[H2O Man]

11. Well, we have worked very hard

in order to bring sovereignty around the world. There were only 7 sovereign countries in the Olympics when Bill Clinton was president. John Kerry was a coward in Vietnam, which explains why our nation lost. The Viet Kings hated Freedom, and that's why they don't have an ice-skating team in the Olymoics. John Kerry favored "rape rooms" in Viet Cong. Today, there are over 70 sovereign democracie, who love freedom, in the Olympics.

[Stephanie]

13. You see, I think people should be able to keep their money.

And when they are billionaires, they should get to keep more of it. Especially if it's my Dad. Carlyle pays real good. Better than the Feds, I'll tell you that. Saddam tried to kill my Dad, you know. And that's why I got his gun. It's in the Oval. That's where I keep it. Watch this drive. Barney! Git the heck out of the way! Can't you see I'm putting!

[Tsiyu]

14. H2O Man and Stephanie:

You made my evening.

You should take this show on the road....:toast:

[H2O Man]

15. People should feel prous to keep their money

in my friend's bank accounts. God loves freedom. In the Old Testicle, God writes a chapter about the American work ethnic. If those people in Bangle Dash had gotten jobs in the 1970s, they could have taken care of themselves. But the Beatles, who resent what I call the "Hollywood Elite," went and had a drug concert to raise funds, which were then used by MoveOn.Org to promote un-american activities. We need to put our citizens from Banle Dash who are not anti-christians back to work. God helps those who help themselves is what Dick Cheney says.

[Stephanie]

19. Dick Cheney is my favorite Dick

And not just because he is the biggest Dick of them all. It's because he understands VALUES. Such as the value of a barrel of oil. Not to be confused with a barrel of monkeys. That would be my cousins.

[H2O Man]

21. I'm a reglar guy.

A funny guy who likes funny jokes. I give nicked names to my beast friends. "Kenny Boy" Lay..... oops, I'm don't really know him. Kerry does. Kerry calls him "Kenny Boy," and he calls Kerry "Kerry Boy." It's a Vietnam veteran thing. Veterans. War. We've got to protect the peace. Anyhow, I call Cheney "Dick Drippings." Gets him hot. He tells me to ask Laura how he got that nicked name. Heh-heh.

[Stephanie]

22. It's funny because they said I knew a guy named Chalby

But I never met him. Well I met him once. In the ropeline. He was Laura's date. It was at my Statement to the Unions. After that I never heard of the guy again. I'll have to ask Laura. Right now she's out on the Smoking Porch. I'll ask her after she's done with her Benson & Hedges. She gets a little testy. Y'all have seen my facial injuries. Will you be my witness?

[H2O Man]

25. This Mr. Chably has donated

a significant amount of money to our opposition, the democratic party. There are those who say that as a trial lawyer, besides bilking the public out of money in his service to Skinny Boy Lay, this John Edwards is a mouth-piece for the Iranian government. And we find that this Iranian news service has infiltraitored the American public by means of the Democratic Underground's railroad of misinformation. Many say that Kerry and Edwards hate freedom. Now, Helen .... LET ME TALK! .... Now I am the president, and I'm talking ....if you are asking me about Kerry and Edwards hating freedom, all I can say is that the most recent Fox News poll shows the majority of the public believes this to be true. The democrats pose an m&m threat to the country. Next question.

[michigandem2]

6. when I see that damn ad that calls Kerry a flip flopper

this is what I use to counter it..

"we are in grave danger....we are much safer"

he goes back and forth on this weekly...he wants to instill fear..THEN tell you he is the one keeping us "safe" its such a hoax...i can't believe some people buy into this..LOL! it makes me feel smart! LOL!

[Stephanie]

23. This would be a great ad for Kerry

Bush: America is safer!

Ridge: The terrorists are coming!

etc., etc.

It's quite remarkable that in George Bush's four years we've had:

* Four hijacked planes, three buildings hit, 3000 dead
* A power blackout of the entire Northeast
* TWO wars, one completely unnecessary
* An economic meltdown
* A security problem such that we have never, ever seen in the U.S.

[wishlist]

12. Not just planes, trains, and trucks but helicopters, limos, speed boats

and Segways, skateboards and windsurfing could be used by the terrorists to blow us up at any time before the election at churches, malls, govt buildings, commercial buildings, train stations, all public places yadda yadda yadda

But if we don't vote for Dumbya, we won't be as safe?!!!!!!!

[Stephanie]

16. They might poison your prescription drugs!

But only if you buy them from Canada. Don't be stupid! Buy American!

[H2O Man]

18. It's only safe

to abuse the drugs that your doctor prescribes for you. Invest in your local community drug supplier. Buy American.

[Skip Intro]

17. That's it. That's it exactly.

Kerry/Edwards should toss this right back at cheney/bush.

Maybe they will. Maybe they're waiting for the debates.

Or the attack???

[Stephanie]

20. I intended to post for Dem_Strategist

But then I got distracted by Waterman.

[Karenina]

24. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:crazy: :silly: :crazy: :kick:

[H2O Man]

26. Sorry, Stephanie......

I didn't mean to "distract" you! (grin) But it's rare to come across someone with as great of a sense of humor as you have! You should have Dem_Strategist consider using your talents in a broader sense .... if the public laughs at Bush/Cheney, they are not likely to vote for the republican ticket. You have a talent, and if I were "in charge" of anything with the democrats, I'd put you on the pay roll immediately.

[Stephanie]

27. Forgiven! LOL! But seriously...

I really am serious - Bush has to be called on this BS. How DARE he try to claim that we're SAFER.

I remember a time when we were safe. I like to call it "the Clinton Administration."

[Shopaholic]

28. We're safer. . .but we're still not safe. . .

repeat mantra as necessary on every single TV, radio, and print interview you give. That's the * prescription for the 2004 campaign.

[H2O Man]

30. Two things are crystal clear:

(1) The only way we can protect our constitutional rights is to willingly give them up.

(2) Anyone who speaks in favor of those constitutional rights is a dangerous maniac trying to forcefully take them away. Better to make a pre-emtive give-away of those rights.

I think that there should be a new federal law imposing the death penalty for those who read the constitution, or who listen to Richie Havens at Woodstock. America: Love It or Leave It.

[H2O Man]

31. I also note that John Edwards

has been subtely advocating the legalization of Lonnie Anderson's hair. What might this do to American youth? You communists on the Democratic Underwear don't seem to be able to pick up these clues to the actual danger to our country. Might I suggest that you read J. Edgar Hoover's chapters in the Bill of Rights a bit more closely, before you allow an atheist like Stephanie to sway you towards a life of crime?

[spanone]

29. Whatever boosts his poll rating on ANY GIVEN DAY.

[Stephanie]

32. Bush uses the carrot and the stick, indiscriminately

He literally threatens us with death. Then he claims only he can protect us. It's classic abuser behaviour.

[H2O Man]

33. Yes, you are right.

In fact, as you have hinted, it goes even beyond the classic pathology of a abusive, controlling, batterer. Bush exhibits the behaviors of such characters as David Koresh, Jim Jones, and other death-cult leaders. In many senses, if you gave Charles Manson a hair-cut and shave, and dressed him in a republican suit, you'd have a more articulate George W. Bush.

[Stephanie]

34. I'm not sure about that but I will concede

Manson caused the deaths of far fewer people.

[H2O Man]

35. okay.....

I stretched the truth a little bit there ..... but not too much.

[DisgustedDemo]

36. Safer? Or about to attack?

Why do these two concepts have to be mutually exclusive? With respect to Al Qaeda wanting to attack us-does ANYBODY (Democrat, Republican, Jihadist) doubt that they will, if given the chance? It should be quite obvious by now that a certain ideology wants us ALL (i.e., we infidels) dead, regardless of who occupies the White House. Adopting a Michael Moore/Alfred E. Newman approach to national security (What? Me worry?)is a sure recipe for national suicide, not to mention Party irrelevancy.

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[Stephanie]

38. Okay, I'll try again.

Given your statement above, please explain how we are "safer."

[H2O Man]

39. Seems a fair question.....

In fact, I think that my friend Stephanie has implied throughout the thread that the threats to Americans are very real .... and that this administration, which ranks as the most hated in global history .... has made things much less safe. Michael Moore is not in charge of national security.

Maybe your post is an attempt at sick humor. We're in favor of those. But a few things indicate ... or at least hint ... that your not kidding. Please explain.

Now, for a lesson in sick humor .... hmmmm ..... Tell me, Stephanie ...and that is IF STEPHANIE is your REAL NAME!!!!! Isn't it true that John Kerry is planning to force abortions on unsuspecting Catholic children in the 8th and 9th trimester? And, Stephanie, isn't it true that John Kerry is doing this BECAUSE HE SHARES MICHAEL MOORE'S OBVIOUS HATRED OF RED-HAIRED CHILDREN?

See? Then you know I'm joking. Your posts sounds more like you're serious.

[H2O Man]

40. Okay .....

well, if you were serious, how about explaining?