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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:48 AM
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The New PNAC - "the Committee on the Present Danger."
Looks like the PNACers are facing reality and planning for life after Bu$h. With former CIA Director James Woolsey at the helm, all the major neocon chickenhawks are on board for phase two of Bu$hCo's Wonderful Adventure.


WASHINGTON: In an effort to shore up their waning influence on United States foreign policy, especially towards the Middle East, a group of neoconservative political figures have launched a new organization, "the Committee on the Present Danger." Many of its members represent the most belligerent trend in American politics towards the Arab world. Its chairman, former CIA Director James Woolsey, for example, has called on the United States to engage in "World War IV" against not only Islamist extremists like al Qaeda, but also the Shiite religious government of Iran, and the "fascists" of the former Iraqi regime and Syria.

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The formation of the new CPD seems to confirm that neoconservatives are recognizing the crisis of credibility they have suffered due to the severe difficulties facing the occupation in Iraq, and have prepared a broad-based organization to advocate from outside the corridors of power. The very real prospect of a John Kerry presidency, in which neoconservatives are unlikely to occupy important positions, has combined with the sense that President George W.Bush has largely abandoned the unilateral and hyper-aggressive approach that characterized the build-up to the invasion of Iraq.

"This is what you do when you are preparing to go into opposition," a leading Republican supporter of President Bush told the Daily Star, "its what you set up if you think you've lost the presidency. These guys don't think they'll get their way again no matter who wins in November." "You set this up so that if Bush looses you are team B and everyone has to join you, and if he wins, you have a base even though everyone is sick of you starting wars," he said.


http://electroniciraq.net/news/1596.shtml

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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:53 AM
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1. I've always said they'd happily throw him under a bus if he stopped
being useful. But they're still trying to get him to start a war with Iran first.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:55 AM
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2. here is the site and guess who is honorary chairman.......
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 07:56 AM by Oz
Our good old buddy Joe Lieberman.

http://www.fightingterror.org/

On edit: Check out the members list.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:57 AM
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4. Damn, you beat me to it!
:)

Looks like these bastards can play the "non-partisan" card now, huh?
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:55 AM
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3. Good God, that's freakin' spooky.
Its chairman, former CIA Director James Woolsey, for example, has called on the United States to engage in "World War IV" against not only Islamist extremists like al Qaeda, but also the Shiite religious government of Iran, and the "fascists" of the former Iraqi regime and Syria.

If this is not a blatant affirmation of the Repukes' love of fascism, then nothing is. :puke:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 07:59 AM
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5. These guys never give up
and they don't even get old and die. I can't wait until their time has past. Unfortunately, most of the world might not get to live to see it.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:02 AM
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6. More like "committee OF the present danger"
Fucking traitors, every last one of them :grr:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:11 AM
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7. Without these merchants of death
the world would be a much safer place.

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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:14 AM
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8. The Committee for a Perpetual War with just about everybody
on this planet.
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:16 AM
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9. Or more precisely, the Committee to remake the US in Israel's
image.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:17 AM
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10. And Still the new CPD haven't got it Right...fomenting, Saddam/911/WTC
The US is rife with War mongering power brokers turning a deaf ear to the people who pay the bills and loan their children to radical causes. Wake up America, take names, and vote these depraved, immoral butchers out of office come November.


The new CPD is led by honorary co-chairs Senator Joseph Lieberman, one of the few prominent neoconservatives in the Democratic Party,
and Republican Senator Jon Kyl, who has strong ties to right-wing evangelical organizations. In a July 20 article in the Washington Post introducing the group, Lieberman and Kyl wrote that the CPD was formed because the "bipartisan consensus is coming under growing public pressure and could fray in the months ahead."

The formation of the new CPD seems to confirm that neoconservatives are recognizing the crisis of credibility they have suffered due to the severe difficulties facing the occupation in Iraq, and have prepared a broad-based organization to advocate from outside the corridors of power. The very real prospect of a John Kerry presidency, in which neoconservatives are unlikely to occupy important positions, has combined with the sense that President George W.Bush has largely abandoned the unilateral and hyper-aggressive approach that characterized the build-up to the invasion of Iraq.

The addition of Senator Lieberman as a Democratic patron for the group is a crucial indicator of the need many neoconservatives now feel to expand beyond their home in the Republican camp. This is in fact the third incarnation of a "Committee on the Present Danger," the first being aimed at militarizing the confrontation with the Soviet Union in the 1950s, and the second taking an even more aggressive line on the cold war in the 1970s, led by hawkish Democratic Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson. By its very name, the new CPD recalls the original home of many neoconservatives in the Jackson camp of the Democratic Party.

Another CPD member, Laurie Mylroie of the American Enterprise Institute, has blamed the former Saddam Hussein regime not only for the attacks of September 11, 2001, but also for the first World Trade Center Bombing of 1993 and the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh in 1995. Old Washington hands recall, however, that until the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990, Mylroie was chiding the United States for not providing Iraq with sufficient military aid, and arguing it was in American interests that all power in Iraq be concentrated in Saddam Hussein's hands.

Not that the rest of CPD's membership, as represented on the organization's website, could be accused of understatement. The threat is "a unprecedented challenge to international peace and stability" (Peter Brookes) and "as potent a threat to our freedom as? communism" (Henry Cooper). The foe is "every bit as dangerous as a Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, or Stalin" (Victor Hanson), "the greatest threat to the US homeland in nearly two centuries" (Ed Meese), and "the greatest threat this country has ever faced in its entire history" (Norman Podhoretz). Moreover, it is "an unconditional and existential threat not only to America and Israel, but also to Judeo-Christian culture" (William Van Cleave), and "what is at stake? is the survival of our civilization " (Stephen Solarz).

The CPD mission statement refers to "a global Islamist terror movement," but gives no clear definition of who or what is included in this beyond Al-Qaeda and its allies. The definition of "the threat" on CPD's website evinces further confusion, claiming that, "In the Middle East, Sunni extremists in Lebanon, the West Bank and the Gaza strip have organized into Asbat al-Ansar and the more widely known Hamas and Hezballah..." The last group, of course, is a Lebanese Shiite political organization, again raising the question of how little expertise and even basic knowledge will be informing CPD's efforts to "educate the American people about the threat posed by a global Islamist terror movement."

Perhaps even more ominously, CPD's statements continuously refer to "regimes that support" the terrorist movement, without mentioning any by name. The Daily Star invited CPD's communications director Geoff Freeman to identify these regimes, and he declined to do so, saying, "at this point the committee has not identified those regimes." "It's perfect for these guys," the leading Bush supporter told the Daily Star, "with formulations this vague it could be anyone, anywhere, anytime."

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 08:50 AM
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11. Aw hell, this one has been around a while
The Other American Dream
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Sunday, 1 September, 2002

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For many years, the proponents of this other American Dream lingered in neo-conservative think tanks, like the Committee on the Present Danger, where they could only snipe from the fringes. With the rise to power of George W. Bush, in an election that denied him even the pretense of a mandate, these neo-conservative strategists suddenly found themselves walking the halls of power, because Bush was forced in the absence of a mandate to fall back upon his neo-conservative base for support. The other American Dream, alive for so long only in white papers within these think tanks, has become the central framework of American policy.

http://truthout.com/docs_02/09.01A.wrp.am.drm.p.htm

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Of Gods and Mortals and Empire
By William Rivers Pitt
Friday 21 February 2003

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PNAC is staffed by men who previously served with groups like Friends of the Democratic Center in Central America, which supported America's bloody gamesmanship in Nicaragua and El Salvador, and with groups like The Committee for the Present Danger, which spent years advocating that a nuclear war with the Soviet Union was "winnable."

PNAC has recently given birth to a new group, The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which met with National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice in order to formulate a plan to "educate" the American populace about the need for war in Iraq. CLI has funneled millions of taxpayer dollars to support the Iraqi National Congress and the Iraqi heir presumptive, Ahmed Chalabi. Chalabi was sentenced in absentia by a Jordanian court in 1992 to 22 years in prison for bank fraud after the collapse of Petra Bank, which he founded in 1977. Chalabi has not set foot in Iraq since 1956, but his Enron-like business credentials apparently make him a good match for the Bush administration's plans.

http://www.redrat.net/BUSH_WAR/pitt.htm
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:20 PM
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12. kick~
:kick:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:28 PM
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13.  "Syria should be next", said Woolsey on "Hardball" months before Iraq
invasion. He and PNACer Gaffney were revealing their intentions early on.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:47 PM
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14. Actually CPD is the *old* PNAC
CPD goes back to the Reagan era, back when the "present danger" was the Russkies. The cast of characters is, as noted above, largely the same.

A concise history of these groups, and their descent from the ultra-Nietzschean philosophy of one Leo Strauss, is contained in James Mann's "Rise of the Vulcans". The "Vulcans" are Bush*'s present foreign policy team; apparently that is a name they use for themselves.
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