Should the ex-mayor of New York endorse Bush based on the WTC response?

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I find it strange that Giuliani is defending Bush and pushing for his re-election based on Bush's war on terra. I find it strange because:

1) A considerable number of the relatives (many New Yorkers) of the victims (also New Yorkers) of the WTC blame the Bush Administration for the failures;

2) the data emerging indicates that the Bush Administration had information prior to 9/11 which it failed to respond to;

3) the Bush Administration has impeded or obstructed the investigation into the WTC failures, and without an objective investigation, it's unlikely that the changes will be sufficient.

So, should Giuliani, as an ex-representative of New York, really be the one to harold Bush as the Terra King when common sense tells you that nothing else could be further from the truth?

Is there any news media which has pointed out this contradiction?

Finally, how is it that Giuliani never got a whisper that there was trouble coming his way before 9/11? Wouldn't you be pissed if it were you?

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1. Giuliani is a racist asshole, he has used 9/11 for personal gain

but he has done nothing to help the people of new york. he didn't do anything to help with a TRUE investigation with all resources needed. instead he went out and got paid for his "heroics" on 9/11 which really wasn't heroic but since bush got scared and hid , giuliani got the attention.

and look at the things he did while mayor, especially in terms of race issues. and you can see why he supports bush.

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3. This is what is so obvious. Giuliani had one good photo moment,

and everything else has been inadequate. He's been butt-boy for Bush, when he should have been kickin Bush's ass for his incompetence.

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2. Giuliani is a repuke!

Need more be said?

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4. That's fine, but why is everybody else buying the inconsistencies?

That's what I don't understand. Is it the media again, forgetting that it's its job to think critically?

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5. Please refresh me memory

When was the last time the media "think critically".

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7. Pentagon Papers, Watergate...

They did it in the 60s & 70s, swimmingly. In the 80s they faltered with the Iran-Contra thingie; in the 90s they prostituted themselves with the Clinton witchhunt; and the fat lady in this decade is still eating bon-bons.

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9. Thats what I thought.

I hate the media!

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6. Bingo.........

We have a winner. As the most horrific event in the history of our country unfolded, we desperately needed an image that everything was under control and not careening into total chaos. Guliani was there at that moment for the photo-ops while our CIC was flying around the country hiding from imaginary attackers.
The media created Guliani as the great hero of 9/11, although his actions were exactly what any public official (except Bush) would have done.
Guliani will forever be remembered as the hero of 9/11, deservedly or not.

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8. Your first mistake

is using logic. Rethugs do not recognize logic. They have no concept of irony. They have no sense of humor. Let those 3 things guide U thru the rethug world and U will less confused.

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10. But New York is not made up of Republcans alone.

That's the point. Let Republicans be Republicans and you have a host of comedic retorts, just like Ann Richards saying that some Texans still think that Jesus spoke English, and they all voted for George Bush.

Do you see it? It just takes someone clever to find the right zinger. I just don't have that flair for comedy, but I know what seems to work.

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11. Nothing at all strange about it..

Giuliani is an ambitious zero. He doesn't give a rat's ass about New Yorkers except where it gets him his next job.

King Rudy's terms as mayor were primarily defined as what he wanted for the city, and it was his way or the highway. Any dissent from the citizens, City Council, Borough Presidents, city agencies or anyone else was immediately squashed. He completely controlled all information, and even told the City Council that the budget was none of their business. He bragged abut crime going down, but never let anyone see the raw numbers-- only the summaries he provided. Reporters were not allowed to talk to the PD-- everything had to go through hispress office.

When possible, he installed toadies as head of city agencies, and when anyone's star shone slightly brighter, like Bratton's, he pushed them out. He took the credit for everything anyone did. He did a grand job of standing out there in front of the fallen towers, but did he ever let the fire chief talk? Nope, it was Rudy all the way who handled everything. Or so we are supposed to believe.

As US attorney, he lost cases because he spent more time leaking what a great job he was doing than actually doing the job.

He is likely the most noxious putz in politics today, as amoral as Shrub, but smarter and more ruthless, and I have no doubt he is simply angling for his own Presidential run in '08.

9/11 was a godsend to both Bush and Giuliani, and the two of them are having a grand time profiteering off of it and milking it to death. They are both scum of the worst sort.

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12. So why isn't this point of view expressed more in the

mainstream? Why are people in New York so quiet about the fact that the failure of the WTC was twofold. From Bush and from Giuliani.

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13. If anyone says this in public, they are...

scorned and ridiculed.

During his time as mayor, the press was scolded and bulldozed into silence. Other politicians and public leaders were also punished for standing up to him.

Now, there's just no point in swimming upstream complaining about the Hero of 9/11.

There is also a large number of people who take him seriously. On the surface, under Giuliani the streets were cleaner, crime did go down, and other things did go right. The perception, to that great number of people who don't look under the rug, was that he did a great job.

He certainly was never at a loss to tell you how great he was doing.

There are times when the forces of darkness get the upper hand, and there's little we can do about it.