If I were not free, I wouldn't hate free people. I'd want freedom.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

They hate us for our freedom is such a ridiculous statement it boggles the mind (this one anyway)

[Vickers]

1. Wait...are you saying you support terrorism?

/RW auto-responder

:eyes:

and

:P

[Yogi]

2. I think they hate us cause we don't treat everyone the same.

n/t

[amber dog democrat]

3. why do you hate America so much?

If we appear self critical the terra ists will have won!

[Bowline]

5. They hate us because...

...They have a serious problem with our support of Israel and our policy toward those who do not support Israel. They hate us because they see us as invaders who are only in the middle east to take their oil and subjugate them to Israel.

Whether or not any of this is true is irrelevant. That's how they see us.

[Yogi]

11. I agree,

but still the question remains are we as fair with Palestine as we are Israel?

[Bowline]

12. I believe we are far more fair with Israel than anyone else in the region.

I believe we give too much money, and expend too much political capital and good will, on our support of Israel, to the detriment of our standing with the rest of the region.

[Yogi]

14. My point exactly.

Thank you. Again You hit the nail right on the head!

[sweetheart]

4. Amazing the suffering for a "free" people

If freedom is to work 2 jobs until you drop dead of exhaustion at
80, then we need a better working definition. Most americans are
not free.

To be free, in one sense, is to surrender your concept of identity
and to let it be formed by "this" moment. In that sense, we are all
already free, and only by picking up the burdensome self of the past
and future, with its expectations and projections, only then are
we bound and unfree.

I think this word freedom is bogus and hence why bush uses it. The
word that is missing is "liberty". That word suggests your power to
be included in your government and to be a minority unrepressed by
a majority. Nobody knows what liberty means anymore, so we are
reduced to grunting bush-pigs, uuuhh, freedom, yea... freedom to
mass murder people and not go to prison... bush-freedom indeed.

[JNelson6563]

16. Freedom is slavery

If freedom is to work 2 jobs until you drop dead of exhaustion at
80, then we need a better working definition. Most americans are
not free.

It is a sad state of affairs. Saddest of all is that so many do not realize they are so far from free.

Our world becomes more Orwellian by the day.

Julie

[Jose Diablo]

6. The ones that want to take away our freedom

are right here in America.

The USA can only be taken from within. The real enemies are inside the wire.

[Bowline]

13. Well said!!!

Now, how do we go about convincing the blind sheeple here in our own country that the real threat comes not from so-called foreign terrorists but from the people we "elect" and send to Washington?

[Oggy]

7. If I was free

I would want to be "ChavezSpeakstheTruth" :hi:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

9. Hey Oggy - good to see ya!

Hope all is well.

I'm getting a ton of mileage out of the Africa links!

:hi:

[Oggy]

10. I'm good

Just busy with work and life and cooking ;-)

Glad you are learning more about Africa. I kinda miss being there. It cracks me up ( makes me laugh that is ) that my wife worked there for 3 years ( Tanzania ) and still calls it home after 4 years back in the UK!

Did you try any of those recipies? I am trying some weird french Gascony cooking at the moment..... Dandilion salad anyone?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

15. I love dandilion - though you have too cook the bitter out IMO

I haven't tried thenm yet as I am on a Vietnamese kick - but I will. Rest assured!

:thumbsup:

[radwriter0555]

8. Um, er, just WHO is hating us??? See, there aren't any terrorists

targeting us.

600 some odd terror tantrum alerts... not one single terror threat nor actual activity.

That's a boggler too.