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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:21 PM
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The Writing on the Shithouse Walls
(this will be a link by 7pm EST; please don't forward it until then, as this isn't final yet; I can't use that headline, damnably, as email spam filters will kill our newsletter; 'Shithouse' will be 'Latrine' in the final)

I sat with a photographer from Reuters who had just returned from a six-month tour of Iraq. He had been tagging along with the Kellog Brown & Root operation, subsidiary of Halliburton, and saw everything there was to see. He went from new military base to new military base, from the oil work in the north and back to the south, observing how busy were the contactors for Halliburton.

"I feel like I compromised every one of my principles by even being over there," he told me after the story had been spun out a bit. His eyes, which had seen too many things through the lens of his camera, were haunted.

It was two years ago that talk about invading Iraq began to circulate. Reasons for the invasion were bandied about - they had weapons of mass destruction, they had a hand in September 11, they will welcome us as liberators - but it wasn't until the Project for the New American Century got dragged into the discussion that an understanding of the true motives behind all this became apparent.

The Project for the New American Century, or PNAC for short, is just another right-wing think tank, really. One cannot swing one's dead cat by the tail in Washington D.C. without smacking some prehensile gnome, pained by the sunlight, scuttling back to its right-wing think tank cubicle. These organizations are all over the place. What makes PNAC different from all the others?

The membership roll call, for one thing:

* Dick Cheney, Vice President of the United States, former CEO of Halliburton;

* Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense;

* Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense;

* Elliot Abrams, National Security Council;

* John Bolton, Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security;

* I. Lewis Libby, Cheney's top National Security assistant;

Quite a roster.

These people didn't enjoy those fancy titles in 2000, when the PNAC manifesto 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' was first published. Before 2000, they were just a bunch of power players who had been shoved out of the government in 1993. In the time that passed between Clinton and those hanging chads, these people got together in PNAC and laid out a blueprint. 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' was the ultimate result, and it is a doozy of a document. 2000 became 2001, and the PNAC boys - Cheney and Rumsfeld specifically - suddenly had the fancy titles and a chance to swing some weight.

'Rebuilding America's Defenses' became the roadmap for foreign policy decisions made in the White House and the Pentagon; PNAC had the Vice President's office in one building, and the Defense Secretary's office in the other. Attacking Iraq was central to that roadmap from the beginning. When former Counterterrorism Czar Richard Clarke accused the Bush administration of focusing on Iraq to the detriment of addressing legitimate threats, he was essentially denouncing them for using the attacks of September 11 as an excuse to execute the PNAC blueprint.

Iraq, you see, has been on the PNAC menu for almost ten years.

The goals codified in 'Rebuilding America's Defenses,' the manifesto, can be boiled down to a few sentences: The invasion and occupation of Iraq, for reasons that had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein. The building of several permanent military bases in Iraq, the purpose of which are to telegraph force throughout the region. The takeover by Western petroleum corporations of Iraq's nationalized oil industry. The ultimate destabilization and overthrow of a variety of regimes in the Middle East, friend and foe alike, by military or economic means, or both.

"Indeed," it is written on page 14 of 'Rebuilding America's Defenses,' "the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

Two years after the talk began, the invasion is completed. There are no weapons of mass destruction, there is no connection to September 11, and the Iraqi people have in no way welcomed us as liberators. The cosmetic rationales for the attack have fallen by the wayside, and all that remains are the PNAC goals, some of which have been achieved in spectacularly profitable fashion.

The stock in trade of Halliburton subsidiary Kellog Brown & Root is the construction of permanent military bases. The Reuters reporter I spoke to had been to several KBR-built permanent American military bases in his six month tour of Iraq. "That's where the oil industry money is going," he told me. "Billions of dollars. Not to infrastructure, not to rebuilding the country, and not to helping the Iraqi people. It's going to KBR, to build those bases for the military." So that's one PNAC goal checked off the list.

As for the corporate takeover of the Iraqi oil industry, that has become the prime mission of the American soldiers engaged there. Kellog Brown & Root also does a tidy business in the oil-infrastructure repair market. "The troops aren't hunting terrorists or building a country," said the Reuters photographer. "All they do is guard the convoys running north and south. The convoys north are carrying supplies and empty tankers for the oil fields around Mosul and Tikrit. The convoys south bring back what they pull out of the ground up there. That's where all these kids are getting killed. They get hit with IEDs while guarding these convoys, and all hell breaks loose."

That last goal, about overthrowing other regimes in the region, hasn't been as easy to follow through on as the PNAC boys might have hoped. The Iraqi people are fighting back, and the small-by-comparison force Rumsfeld said would be enough to do the job can't seem to pacify the country. Perhaps that is because too many troops are dedicated to guarding the oil supply lines. More likely, however, it is because of the sincere belief among the Iraqi people that they have been conquered - not 'liberated' but conquered - and their conquerors don't give a tinker's damn whether they live or die.

"The Americans over there have all these terms for people who aren't Americans," the Reuters photographer said. "The Iraqi people are called LPs, or 'Local Personnel.' They get killed all the time, but it's like, 'Some LPs got killed,' so it isn't like real people died. Iraqi kids run along the convoys, hoping a soldier will throw them some food or water, and sometimes they get crushed by the trucks. Nothing stops, those are the orders, so some LPs get killed and the convoy keeps rolling. The labels make it easier for them to die. The people are depersonalized. No one cares."

"Everyone is an 'insurgent' over there," the photographer told me. "That's another label with no meaning. Everyone is against the Americans. There is a $250,000 bounty on the head of every Westerner over there, mine too, while I was there. The Americans working the oil industry over there are the dumbest, most racist jackasses I've ever seen in my life. That's the American face on this thing, and the Iraqi people see it."

929 American soldiers have died to achieve goals the PNAC boys gamed out before they ever came in with this Bush administration. Well over 10,000 Iraqi civilians have likewise died. Over $200 billion has been spent to do this. Fighting today rages across several sections of Iraq, and the puppet 'leaders' installed by U.S. forces are about to drive a final stake into the heart of the liberation rhetoric by declaring nationwide martial law.

Two enemies of the United States - the nation of Iran and Osama bin Laden - are thrilled with the outcome to date. Saddam Hussein was an enemy to both Iran and bin Laden, and he has been removed. The destabilization and innocent bloodshed bolsters Iran's standing against the U.S., and sends freshly motivated martyrs into the arms of Osama.

Yes, the Halliburton contracting in Iraq for military basis and petroleum production is a cash cow for that company. The bases are being built. The oil industry has been privatized. The resulting chaos of the PNAC blueprint, however, has left the entire theater of the war in complete chaos. The Bush administration has insisted all along that this invasion was central to their 'War on Terror.' It has, in truth, become a failed experiment in global corporate hegemony writ large, foisted upon us by some men named Cheney and Rumsfeld who thought it would all work out as they had planned it in 2000.

It hasn't, except for the profiteering. For all their white papers, for all their carefully-laid plans, for all the power and fancy titles these erstwhile think-tankers managed to gathered unto themselves, their works are now blood-crusted dust. They are clearly not as smart as they thought they were. The overall 'War on Terror' itself has plenty of examples of these boys not being too swift on the uptake. Iraq is only the largest, and costliest, example.

The case of Mohammad Naeem Noor Khan is another perfect example. Khan was a mole, deep undercover within the ranks of al Qaeda, who was sending vital data on the terror organization from Pakistan to British and American intelligence. But officials with the Bush administration, desperate to show the American people they were making headway in the terror war, barfed up Khan's name to the press while bragging about recent arrests. Khan's position as a mole within al Qaeda was summarily annihilated. The guy we had inside was blown.

Pretty smart, yes? "The whole thing smacks of either incompetence or worse," said Tim Ripley, a security expert who writes for Jane's Defense publications, in a Reuters article on the blown agent. "You have to ask: what are they doing compromising a deep mole within al Qaeda, when it's so difficult to get these guys in there in the first place? It goes against all the rules of counter-espionage, counter-terrorism, running agents and so forth. It's not exactly cloak and dagger undercover work if it's on the front pages every time there's a development, is it?"

This would be the second agent we know of who has been blown by the arrogant stupidity of the Bush administration. The other, of course, was Valerie Plame. Plame was a 'Non-Official Cover' agent, or NOC, for the CIA. NOC designates the deepest cover an agent can have. Plame's deep-cover assignment was to run a network dedicated to tracking any person, nation or group that might give weapons of mass destruction to terrorists. Because her husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, had the temerity to accuse the Bush administration of lying in the public prints, the administration blew Plame's cover as a warning to Wilson and any other whistleblowers who might have thought of coming forward.

The Bush administration blew Khan's cover because they wanted to get a soundbite out for the election campaign. They blew Plame out of sheer spite, and out of desperation. The mole we had inside al Qaeda, and an agent we had tracking the movement of weapons of mass destruction, are both finished now because the PNAC boys are watching all their plans go awry, and they don't quite know what to do about it. That makes them stupid and exceedingly dangerous.

The soldiers over there are hip to the jive at this point. Michael Hoffman, a Marine corporal in artillery, was part of the original March invasion. Before Hoffman's unit shipped out, his battery first sergeant addressed all the enlisted men. "Don't think you're going to be heroes," said Hoffman's sergeant. "You're not going over there because of weapons of mass destruction. You're not going there to get rid of Saddam Hussein, or to make Iraq safe for democracy. You're going there for one reason and one reason alone: Oil."

The Reuters photographer I spoke to couldn't get any soldiers to talk about how they felt when surrounded by their fellow soldiers. "They don't talk in the ranks, or just about anywhere on base," he said. "You have to go out to the latrine area, to the Port-O-Potties. For some reason, they talk there. You can read how they really feel - all the anti-Bush stuff, all the wanting to go home - in the writing on the shithouse walls."
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:26 PM
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1. The whole thing smacks of either incompetence or worse
My money's on "worse". Nobody's that incompetent.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:05 PM
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7. I thinks it's a matter of putting winning the election above all
else, and that's why they named a spy against Al Qaeda, to bolster their crebibility.

I don't think they did it to help Al Qaeda.

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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:02 PM
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34. great article will! Kicked
Awesome piece. Don't know if you have read one I typed up about Ohio and it's education problems, but here is the link if you want to take a look at it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2172523&mesg_id=2172523&page=


I am sending this to a bunch of newspaper outlets here in OH after tommorrow when I get home from school myself.

again, great article!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:13 PM
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35. Maybe Khan Knew Something About WMD That Would Damage Neo-Cons
because Cheney/Halliburton DID traffick illegal stuff to terrorist nations.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:33 PM
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2. Fabulous, Will. It's really time to start talking PNAC again.
People need to know the reason for this bogus war.

This is one of your best, Will. Thanks so much.

"a failed experiment in global corporate hegemony" - beautiful

xx
S
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:32 PM
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37. I agree... FABULOUS. I hardly ever hear anyone talk
of PNAC anymore or everywhere, for that matter. Thanks will.

Very, very, well done. :thumbsup:
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:48 PM
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3. excellent article, Mr. Pitt.
If the democrats don't bring this up to as large an audience they can get, before the election, I'll spit on them as well. There is just So much ammunition available and if Kerry doesn't use it, he's in the game like a dirty swine, too.

All the lieing, cheating, fraud, misreprresentation, everything the Bush Pig farm has said and done in the last few years, comes down to This Issue alone - the PNACer plans. This Is The Story to Hang onto as All roads of deceit and suffering of others lead back to it.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:51 PM
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4. Great Read!
Thanks!:toast:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:55 PM
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5. Excellent with one thing though
List Jeb Bush as a PNAC member. That's one person when listed that really makes the conspiracy more sinister with the whole Bush and Election 200 connection.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 12:57 PM
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6. I thought about that
Listing Jeb Bush would have required I get into Florida 2000. Likewise, listing Zalmay Khalilzad would have required I get into the Afghanistan pipeline. Just telling this basic outline story required 2,000 words.

Wait for the book. :)
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:42 PM
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40. Zalmay Khalilzad: MUCH more than Afghanistan
He's been around for quite awhile and shows up in the damndest places. Check out his involvement in the former Yugoslavia.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:38 PM
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44. The BOOK??? woohoo!!
I didn't know you were working on a new book. Will it be like the Encyclopedia Galactia, the complete history of the BFEE?

Naw, that would be way too many volumes.

Thanks for this kick-ass essay Will, duly emailed about. Good on ya!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:08 AM
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46. I don't think listing Jeb Bush would require you to write...
...about the 2000 election in Florida. Just the fact that he's *'s brother makes the list even more impressive...or depressing. :( You didn't go into details about everyone on the list.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:06 PM
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8. I look forward to the completed article n/t
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:12 PM
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9. Best of your latest work, Will.
Absolutely first rate analysis.
Good balance between quoting sources and analysis as well.
Very good control of pace and tone.
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robpopulace Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:17 PM
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10. Excellent article
Though it's a little vague in one sentence.

"Yes, the Halliburton contracting in Iraq for military basis and petroleum production is a cash cow for that company."

"basis" or "bases"

If "basis" try a different word like "reasons" or whatever.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:21 PM
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12. Dargh
Thanks. Will get it fixed.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:17 PM
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11. YES!!!
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 01:18 PM by mike_c
Excellent essay Will-- keep reminding people that the invasion was orchestrated long before March 2003!

One suggestion-- I know you don't want to do this, but please connect the dots regarding Bush's successor. As long as a puppet Iraqi regime remains in power as a surrogate voice for the neocons, as long as the rape of Iraq's natural resources continues, as long as those U.S. military bases and the mega-embassy remain, as long as the U.S. uses Iraq and Kuwait as staging grounds from which to threaten the entire ME with imperial wrath-- the PNAC wins. The only way to beat them is to dismantle their foreign policy in Washington and it's manifestations on the ground around the world. Simply removing their thralls from office won't stop them if they've already installed the infrastructure for corporate hegemony and the next adminstration runs it for them.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:32 PM
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13. excellent article!
thanks as always :toast:

i realize the massive scope of the article is big enough with the focus just being on the ME but the PNAC orgs designs go even beyond the ME but that is probably too much to digest all at one.

one other comment, while reading i was a little suprised you didn't mention the OSP.

james mcgovern called them 'a clear and presnet danger to the american people' on npr just after the invasion.

anyways... :wow:

peace
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stevielizard Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 01:56 PM
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14. I think it's "Kellogg" with two g's
What a great article though. I went to a friend's 2000 graduation from SAIS at Johns Hopkins- and have a picture of her standing between guest speaker Kofi Annan and dean Wolfowitz- I didn't really get this at the time, but her Masters subject was something about counter-insurgency in Iraq- rebuilding it after we went in- as soon as the * administration started trumpeting the imminent threat in Iraq, I knew what was about to go down. Bastards.
Stevie Lizard
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:02 PM
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15. Be interesting to read that thesis now
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stevielizard Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:30 PM
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22. Her ass is over there now
I got her to come to my wedding a couple months ago here in Aspen- took her white-water rafting- had my ex-army attorney friends talk to her, but she still went back to Baghdad- she really bought into the Project's ideology.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:06 PM
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16. Excellent!
I try to explain PNAC to the uninformed, but I don't think I usually get my point across very well. This should help. Thank you.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 04:09 PM
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27. ditto
this put it so succinctly.

It's terrifically hard not to forward..such a great piece.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:07 PM
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17. A stylistic suggestion
Use bullet points in this paragragh:

The goals codified in 'Rebuilding America's Defenses,' the manifesto, can be boiled down to a few sentences:
  • The invasion and occupation of Iraq, for reasons that had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein.
  • The building of several permanent military bases in Iraq, the purpose of which are to telegraph force throughout the region.
  • The takeover by Western petroleum corporations of Iraq's nationalized oil industry.
  • The ultimate destabilization and overthrow of a variety of regimes in the Middle East, friend and foe alike, by military or economic means, or both.


That's a lot easier to read.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:10 AM
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47. Yeah, that part distracted me because of the sentence fragments.
I don't think fragments work very well in that spot.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 02:15 PM
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18. "..........stupid and exceedingly dangerous."
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 02:16 PM by Zorra
The PNAC is like a virus that has caused an exceedingly deadly plague, led to the death of tens of thousands of human beings, and will wipe out another significant chunk of human kind, maybe even cause our extinction, if it is not stopped.

There is only one cure for this deadly virus, and it is us.

Great piece, thank you.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:13 PM
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19. Excellent, Will.
Needs a kick!
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:17 PM
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20. At last, a concise and convincing article I can send to my mother
along with the PNAC white paper, in hopes of convincing her the peanut guys really do exist and explaining what they're all about.

"Who are the peanut guys?" she asked, the third or fourth time I brought up PNAC and made the mistake of using the phrase PNAC guys in reference to PNAC founders in the Bush administration. This is my challenge.

I promised to send her the white paper, but I don't have the fortitude to write and defend my own summation. You've managed to capture everything I've told her in one short article and to support something she should have believed based on something I told her but she just doesn't want to believe it.

If if makes you feel any better, this nice Mormon lady from Utah will be much more likely to read and believe what you've written without profanity in the headline.

One thing that's not clear and I think creates a bit of a credibility problem: Did the photographer talk to Corporal Hoffman and give permission to use his name? If so, why name him and not the photographer?



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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:20 PM
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21. I met Hoffman a couple of weeks ago
That quote is from the interview I did with him before the convention. The full transcript is on the blog page. I didn't name the reporter because I didn't want to get him into any hot water. 'Shithouse' will be 'Latrine' in the final.

Thanks.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:35 PM
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23. Our government has been subverted by power hungry, wealth hungry, idiots.
What a sobering piece. It makes me want to cry for our country, our service peole in Iraq who are puppets in this scam, and the Iraqi people. Yes, they were in a terrible situation under Saddam, but now who knows what kind of life they will be able to lead. They have been living with constant warfare for almost 2 years, with no end in sight. Oh the shame of it all.

:cry: :cry:
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:41 PM
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24. Didn't Rummie flatly declare, re establisment of permanent bases
... "That's just nonsense! We have no intention of staying in Iraq one moment longer than we have to," or words to that effect?

Not that I believed him. But how flat a lie does it have to be before they finally get stuck with some of this stuff? Yeah, yeah, I know the answer...
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:49 PM
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25. Oops--Nother little stylistic infelicity
"The resulting chaos of the PNAC blueprint, however, has left the entire theater of the war in complete chaos."

"...in complete turmoil"? something needs a tweak here.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 03:54 PM
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26. Got that one already
Edited on Sun Aug-08-04 03:55 PM by WilliamPitt
But thanks. :)
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 04:13 PM
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28. So they're trucking the oil south - I was wondering how they could..
guard a pipeline. Imagine...all that oil and no way to get it past the insurgents safely.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 05:39 PM
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29. Link to final
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 05:40 PM
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30. Thanks Will n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 05:50 PM
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31. Kick!
Excellent!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 06:31 PM
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32. Excellent!
The moderates and right wing of the Dem party are avoiding the reality of this like viewing the feces in the latrine.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 06:54 PM
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33. Wow, this is powerful. Kick.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 07:25 PM
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36. Quicksand
Intelligence analyst questions U.S. efforts in Iraq : “A good 90 percent of the guys we were fighting were guys that just wanted us out of their country,” McGerald said. “If we had a foreign army here, it would be the same.”

http://nsnlb.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040808/NEWS01/208080396/-1/news
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:26 PM
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38. Most excellent
:kick:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:35 PM
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39. Noticing writing on shit house walls
at work too and all putting down Bush.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:48 PM
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41. Another great article, William..
It sounds like it's out of control in Iraq..
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:32 PM
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42. "The Americans working the oil industry over there
are the dumbest, most racist jackasses I've ever seen in my life. That's the American face on this thing, and the Iraqi people see it."

I met some of these oil workers and they admit we are there for the oil. They justify the war by saying we are defending the American/Christian way of life against the Arab/Muslim culture. It's a culture they cannot understand and therefore, a culture they hate. They view the Iraqi people the way Hitler's forces viewed the Jews - as subhuman. If it were up to them all the Arabs would die. It's us or them. Bush is just doing what has to be done.

Ethnic cleansing for oil, how Christ-like.





























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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 10:32 PM
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43. Excellent!
:kick:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 11:18 PM
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45. I just read the final article. I think that it's one of the most damning
articles I've ever read on the Iraq war.

It conveys the true cost of the war in Iraqi lives, lost credibility, and wasted money in ways that really make you want to tear your hair out. The description of the reality that is Iraq as described by the Rueter's photographer in the following paragraph displays how truly morally bankrupt this whole escapade is:

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"The Americans over there have all these terms for people who aren't Americans," the Reuters photographer said. "The Iraqi people are called LPs, or 'Local Personnel.' They get killed all the time, but it's like, 'Some LPs got killed,' so it isn't like real people died. Iraqi kids run along the convoys, hoping a soldier will throw them some food or water, and sometimes they get crushed by the trucks. Nothing stops, those are the orders, so some LPs get killed and the convoy keeps rolling. The labels make it easier for them to die. The people are depersonalized. No one cares."
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The neocons are truly without conscience and one sincerely has to wonder about their sanity after reading this article.


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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 02:15 AM
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48. Kudos!
As I read the article, tears sprang to my eyes. This is so frustrating. How in the world can Kerry possibly turn this around? Do you think he will sincerely try?
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