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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 09:50 AM
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The Difference Between Republican and Democratic Attacks on Presidents
This morning I was thinking about the weakness I have seen from Democrats over the last few years. I thought about how many, if not most Democrats are affair to call themselves liberals or be called liberals. I thought about how the redefining of the word liberal happened under Reagan, with very few Democrats challenging Reagan. This led me to realize a major difference between Republicans and Democratic attacks on Presidents.

With Democrats, if a president is popular they will not attack that president even if his performance hurts the country. With Republicans, if a president is popular they will do everything in their power to make that president unpopular even if what he does is good for the country.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 09:55 AM
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1. It's instinct for Democrats to be fair-minded.
I think many of us are starting to realize that when you're going up against a bunch of liars, crooks and thugs, a different tact may be necessary.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:03 AM
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2. I'm proud to be one of those fair-minded Liberal Democrats..
I think we should all start BRAGGING that we are indeed Liberals!
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:14 AM
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3. Yeah, I didn't word my response to well...
I didn't mean to imply that we shouldn't be fair-minded, just more ferocious in countering the opposition.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:18 AM
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:25 AM
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7. Is the jr for just retarded?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:28 AM
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8. Pity you were tombstoned before I could tell you to...
GO FUCK YOURSELF!

Are you a repub because you're greedy, or because you're stupid?
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:15 AM
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4. I could never sink to their level
I think fighting them with the truth is how we'll win.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:35 AM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:38 AM
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11. BYE BYE, ASSHOLE!
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:39 AM
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12. What does geometry have to do with it, MORAN?
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DSR Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:42 AM
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14. geometry?
what are you talking about?
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:45 AM
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15. ROFLMAO!!
I had to save your post just it case it gets deleted when you do.

10. Dems are Angles

Only Republican politians are liars. No Dems ever lie, steal or bully there way to political supremecy. If only the world knew. There are just as many injustices on both sides, everyone wants to point out the negatives but your right only the Right would use such tactics as to build down someones character like that. ^^ I mean calling your opponents a bunch of liars, crooks and thugs is nothing like what they do. Not at all. Dems are just Angles caught in a struggle..oh wait most of you don't even belieave in angles..my bad
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:40 AM
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13. Angles? ROFL
Learn how to spell.
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DSR Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:45 AM
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16. Mistakes
I suppose I'm just the last person alive who makes mistakes huh?
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 11:39 AM
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21. Illiteracy is not impressive or convincing
"Mistakes"
Posted by DSR

I suppose I'm just the last person alive who makes mistakes huh?


No, you aren't the last. And you aren't the first person who thinks that illiteracy is convincing.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:16 AM
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5. Republicans have been conducting warfare against Democrats
as far back as Richard M. Nixon. You may remember his dirty tricks specialist, Donald Segretti, as well as Charles Colson who aided in trying to devise horrendous actions against political "opposition."

A lot of people were simply bemused learning Segretti had envisioned the use of whores to seduce vulnerable Democratic male politicians, in order to ruin them. This was in the 1960's.

Why would we think plans like this, as in intentions to act, were put aside simply because Richard M. Nixon left? Underhanded, dishonest, hostile, disrespectful thinking about others is simply natural Republican temperament!

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MUSTANG_2004 Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 11:32 AM
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20. Gary Hart?
I've always wondered if Gary Hart, as the strongest potential Democratic rival, was set-up by GHW Bush. Certainly if I were GHW Bush in 1988 I'd much rather face Dukakis than Hart.

That said, I think you're mistaken to lay dirty tricks entirely on the GOP. If I remember correctly, Kennedy could play dirty politics as well (didn't he have the IRS audit his opponents?).
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:30 AM
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9. We usually attack their president's policies, not the man himself.
We attack Bush due to his leadership on the war, or his conduct at home, and how atrocious those are. Whereas the Repukes, if they can't attack a president because of that, will instead go through character assassination, even though most of the people in the country couldn't give a rat's ass about blow jobs in the White House.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 11:20 AM
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19. true Solon
A group of Republicans met and started raising money to impeach Clinton within weeks of the 1992 election, before he'd even been sworn in.

They trash dems for who we are and not what we do. We should remember that when going after Bush. It's why we can't talk about ideas anymore, we just call each other names.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:56 AM
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17. Democrats are interested in Ideals. Republicans are interested in Power
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 11:19 AM
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18. Well put. n/t
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 11:39 AM
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22. Well, I'm middle aged, and I don't recall a time where it was a compliment
to be described as a liberal, except maybe in a few instances.

As I recall, and I may not be recalling correctly, the Democratic Party wasn't always as "liberal" as it is now. It would have been incorrect to call Dems liberals, as a group. But I think the party has possibly become more liberal over the years, making the term "liberal" take on a new, even less complimentary meaning. One is no longer liberal on this issue or that issue, one is described generally as being liberal, and that is possibly because the party has become more liberal.

Before the 1960s, for example, the Dem. Party was not so concerned with the civil rights of citizens, since that was a topic that wasn't at the forefront of issues much. Even during the McCarthy hearings.

Whether I'm liberal probably depends on who is viewing my opinions. To a far rightist, I would be liberal, I'm sure. To a far lefter, I would not be a liberal. I'm not even sure of the meaning of the word these days, actually.
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