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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 09:30 PM
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(Swing State DU'ers) Are you 100% you are registered to vote? READ THIS!
"Apparently there are groups out there who buy copies of the voter registration rolls, then send in new registrations for
registered voters giving them a new address. It's really a more sophisticated version of the whole thing with the felony lists
in Florida in the last election - however, people aren't being REMOVED from the voting rolls, and hence there's no red flag
being raised. After all, people DO move and send in change of address, so there's no reason for them to suspect voter fraud."

<snip>

Read the full letter at http://www.bartcop.com/080604vote.htm

I don't know if it's true, but if so it has Rove written all over it...and be sure to make sure you can vote come November...
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 09:32 PM
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1. Must Read For Folks
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 09:33 PM
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2. Heaven help the person who ever does that to me...
:mad:
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 09:37 PM
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3. Got my postcard in the mail today
reminding me of where my polling place was.
Heard about this on AAR today. Also heard that Congressman Wexler lost his case in Florida re having a paper trail on the touch screen voting machines.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 09:56 PM
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4. Heard about that...
and the phone calls saying that "Voting is called off today because of the weather. We've rescheduled it for next Tuesday."

Lotsa dirty tricks out there.

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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:02 PM
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5. I checked snopes.com for this
Couldn't find any evidence this story is not authentic.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:22 PM
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6.  Not quite as reported here. The original source and URL
Edited on Fri Aug-06-04 10:36 PM by kittykitty
http://www.livejournal.com/users/yoshitsune/127705.html

"The latest news from the election board is that, while this form of voter fraud is indeed being perpetrated here, what happened to me was a legitimate mistake. Apparently someone sharing my name moved, and when getting a driver's license with his new address changed his voter registration. (Thanks to Kendrick Blackwood from the Pitch Weekly for helping to clear this up.")
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 10:42 PM
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7. In any case we should all make sure we are registered
Before the election in Nov...can't hurt to be safe...
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j2thaizzo Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:20 PM
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15. Better safe than disenfranchised
The best thing to do is encourage everyone you know to vote early and vote in the upcoming primaries -- even if you don't have a dog in the race or it's a local/municipal one. The idea is to test the system -- make sure you're on the rolls, and that your precinct has competant workers. This is probably the most important primary election of our lifetimes, especially those of us who live in swing states the GOP will target. Here in Fla, the guvna is doing everything just shy of committing a felony to cut the dem voter rolls, particularly because the 527s are registering so many dems, and the demographic trends are leaning Kerry.

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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:23 PM
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8. I don't know if this is true EVERYWHERE...
but in my state (Wisconsin) we have the right to cast a "provisional ballot" -- in case there is a dispute -- then you call & clear up the confusion & have the ballot submitted. It's not well known-- but is a right. (best to check ahead of time, of course-- but NEVER leave without voting--ask for a provisional ballot).
peace,
Jacki
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:28 PM
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9. well met oldlady. in ny we call it voting by affidavit
so, IF you show up to your polling place, and you are told that you are no longer registered in the city that you live in, you could ask for an affidavit ballot. A judge would decide if your vote counts.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:30 PM
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10. Yes. We have affidavit votes. I would assume that all states do.
I'm in Mississippi.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:49 PM
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13. The less political voter will just give up
Voting by affidavit takes time and may require knowledge of that option. I think politically minded voters will go that route, but others will simply give up.

This is an important thread, and I hope it gets some more attention.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 12:11 AM
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14. Thus the importance of having observers at EVERY polling place.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:36 PM
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11. You probably have that right in most if not all states, BUT
there's no guarantee that that right will be fully respected on election day. Plenty of people in FL didn't get to vote those provisional ballots for one reason or another, for example. There weren't enough provisional ballots, or the election workers weren't trained properly and denied them, and so forth.

Further, many people who are concerned about electronic voting machines like to suggest people vote absentee or by provisional ballot (if they can) -- ANYthing which is paper over electrons. Unfortunately, you also have no control over how those paper ballots are treated either. I am especially suspicious of absentee ballots, since they usually are sent in advance, and give evildoers plenty of opportunity to do what they will with them -- "misplace" them, forget all about them, drop them in the circular file, etc., etc., etc. There's a reason Jeb Bush pushed absnetee ballots HARD in FL in 2000, and it wasn't just to bump the Repug vote there.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-04 11:38 PM
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12. If you have the problems that Eloriel described, call you Democratic...
headquarters and your county official who oversees elections. Make sure that the denial of your right is documented.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 08:58 PM
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16. I'm posting this to another thread where I suggested
people vote absentee to avoid DRE's. Now what should we do?

I know you are right, but now I am totally discouraged.
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Big Al from WI Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-04 09:56 PM
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17. In Wisconsin you can register to vote the day of the election
so really I'm not sure a provisional ballot would be necessary.
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