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unaccustomed to having people argue back, the way Moore and Maher, AND Kim Campbell, too, did. His widdle cheekies just got pinker and pinker. It's about time his ilk gets rough treatment like this. About time. And the fact that he did bail before the show ended is mere PROOF - these bullies are really cowards. They can dish it out, but they can't take it. And he basically asked for it when he started to attack Moore on his movie - that he finally was forced to admit he hadn't seen. The audience, by the way, went absolutely nuts. They erupted like a volcano - SCREAMS AND YELLS AND CHEERS.
I loved it!
And what else I loved was the "flip-flop" issue. Throughout the show, Moore taunted him - maybe four or five times - about what a flip-flopper is. For example, Dreier came out, in the beginning, by making a VERY feeble joke (obviously he didn't think so) about how he was going to turn Michael Moore into a republi-CON. The first time, Moore voiced a very vehement doubt about this happening, and Kim Campbell piped up with "that's optimism!" - which brought the house down. BIG reaction from the crowd. They'd started with Maher asking about the almost obnoxious optimism that was jammed up everybody's ass at the convention. Then, the second time Dreier's assertion came up - that he was going to convert Michael Moore to republi-CON-ism, Moore shot back with - "and if you do, will that make me a flip-flopper?" EVERY time some issue came up about someone changing their mind (like Maher talked about Kerry's Vietnam experience, volunteering to go and then coming back and working against the war, by saying "so a guy comes to the slaughterhouse, and can you REALLY blame him if he comes back a vegetarian?" You could tell that David Dreier was appreciating this less and less as the show wore on. They stuck it to him repeatedly about the flip-flopping thing. And Kim Campbell then hit a home run by commenting that the Kerry case - going to war and then coming back to object to that same war - proved that A PERSON CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND, and that if he had such an experience and his opinion changed, all that showed was that he was able to learn from his experiences. Dreier did NOT like any of this a bit. Nobody had gotten The Memo, obviously! And if they had, they had the darned NERVE to disregard it!
It was hilarious. These two Bad Guys were definitely on the defensive. During the Owens segment, Owens tried to claim that a) "liberal" had become a dirty word not because it had been made into one by the Bad Guys but because the liberals had done it to themselves (!) - Maher actually agreed with him, in part, about this, which I didn't like. And b) that he never hated Clinton or disliked Clinton, and c) he made some smart-ass crack thanking Maher for not giving him shit for being a conservative. A VERY creepy guy. Just a little TOO smiley and clean-cut and "respectable-looking" for my tastes, kinda like ralph reed. What is WITH those Colorado voters, anyway?
Michael Moore was fabulous! He had Dreier roasting on a spit. And interestingly enough, when Ralph Nader came out for his own brief segment, Moore was the only one on the panel who did not applaud. David Dreier, on the other hand, did. Enthusiastically.
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