It was Bush, not Kerry, that threatened to not fund the $87 billion....

[kentuck]

It is not an easy explanation for John Kerry. But to put it in perspective, initially we were told the war was not going to cost anything. The oil revenues would pay for it. They were wrong. Whether they lied, misled, or whatever, they were wrong. Then Bush asks for $87 billion with $20 billion for the troops. At this point in time, they have spent about $450 million dollars of that. That is less than 10% of what they said they needed. Why did they lie about how much they needed?

But when it was presented to Bush that the $20 billion should be taken off the huge taxcut for his wealthy friends, Bush said he would veto the entire bill if that came to his desk. He was the person willing to keep the funds from the troops, not Kerry. Kerry would not have kept the funds from the troops if his vote was decisive. His vote was a simple vote on principle. His principles were stronger than Bush's but it cannot be explained in one simple sentence to counter the charges by the Bush regime.

[slinkerwink]

1. I need a link to that!

[buycitgo]

2. amen, and that idiot Biden, when confronted by Russert on this point

didn't mention that AT ALL!!!!!

I was so disgusted

fatso went after him hammer and tong about this, producing Biden's own quotes on this, to which he could only weakly respond, intsead of having some antipug ammo of his own, like what you've stated above, that he could toss at pigboy's nozzle

what WIMPS these guys are

[Mr_Spock]

3. Very nice, now condense that down to a ten-word "talking point"

like the two-bit Republican whores do. One thing they do know, jingoism works. Remember, Americans have the attention span of strobe light, keep it simple, stupid. Fortunately, most people who matter already know how that argument went for the 87 billion - it was a negotiation and for once the Dems decided to have balls and tried to play hardball. They were stymied and lost anyway so I'm not sure why the assholes who refused to compromise and are blowing our deficit out of the water are boasting about this??? Oh, yeah, they twist everything to make their failures look like assets, and we are too intellectual to see the simplicity of it. DOH!! truth hurts doesn't it?

[ClassWarrior]

4. Links and talking point here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2122581

[Mr_Spock]

6. Thanks, when are we going to be more organized about this?

Where's our left-wing attack machine? We need a talking points bureau. I'm serious - what the heck are we doing?

[MGKrebs]

8. Do it. Make it so.

You have the power.

We're getting a message group cranked up here in Georgia.

[Mr_Spock]

9. You are right - if I want it doen right, I gotta do it myself.

If the Chinese keep stealing technology jobs, I'll have plenty of time on my hands too!

[kentuck]

5. here it is :

"It was Bush, not Kerry, that threatened to not fund the $87 billion...."

Well, maybe more than 10 words...

[StClone]

7. Talk about Flip-Flops look at American opinion

If Kerry voted yeah and later nay look at the orignal support for an Iraq attack by Americans to now. Flip-Flopping oh don't say that!