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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:35 PM
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Poll question: Iraq: What Should Be Done
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:37 PM
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1. Where's the option...
Edited on Thu Aug-21-03 04:38 PM by w13rd0
..for sending Rummy and Wolfowitz and Pearle<sp> and Bush and Cheney over to protect the god damned oil themselves?

Editted: for clarity
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:39 PM
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4. That Falls Under Other/Please Expalin
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:38 PM
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2. This cartoon says it all:
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MostlyBlackCat2 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 05:06 PM
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12. so someone who reads this cartoon regularly
'splain me this one:



i'm sure i'm gonna kick myself in a second.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 06:25 PM
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14. a particularly nasty ally in our "war on terror"
Dictator of Uzbekistan whose human rights record would make Hussein look like a humanitarian.

I think the point is that while everyone talked about how we had to save the Iraqi's our good friend was boiling people alive and torturing them to death and it's a good thing no one knows his name or someone might ask uncomfortable questions.


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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 07:14 PM
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16. Dictator of Uzbekistan who the * Admin doesn't want us to know
http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/us-and-uz.htm

Perhaps this is a reference to the Dictator * and Co, don't want us to know about (unlike Saddam)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:39 PM
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3. I Voted For Two
If we unilaterally withdrawl there will be the mother of all power vacuums.

It's also a violation of international law to unilaterally withdrawl. It is our legal responsibility to provide for the stability of Iraq as the occupying power.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:42 PM
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7. What's Wrong With This Picture
Why didn't The Whistler tell the American people we'd be responsible for the day-to-day lives of these people? We're still not being given useful information about costs, length of stay, how we'll know when we're done. We were in Japan for many, many years, and that was a relatively smooth transition.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:55 PM
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10. law shmaw
Edited on Thu Aug-21-03 04:57 PM by GreenArrow
when the hell has this administration given a fig for the law?

Actually, they care a great deal for the letter of the law, since they can twist it to suit them. They care nothing for the spirit of the law, and they care nothing about Justice.

If the UN does come in, then the US:

--should get out.

--pay for the damages and rebuilding

--not tamper in Iraq's politics

--relinquish all oil and reconstruction contracts pirated from the Iraqi people--if the Iraqis want to socialize their oil, tough for Halliburton.

--must not be allowed to build permanent military bases in Iraq.

If the administration doesn't want to do those things, then they should keep the troops there and take their lumps. They've opened a damn Pandora's box that is going to color our realtions with the rest of the world for years to come. These bastards should not be rewarded in any way, shape or form for what they have done.
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:40 PM
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5. The United States needs to turn this over to someone with a brain.
We have no business on this crusade, and someone needs to suffer a serious consequence as a result of lying us into this quagmire.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:40 PM
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6. Seek UN participation, but
NOT under the * maladminstrations terms of letting the UN take over the occupation. The US occupation must end.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:45 PM
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8. We shouldn't have gone there, but now that we are...
We should let the Un come in and show to the world that we DIDN'T come their to steal Iraqi Oil and deliver a Message of Empire.

But of course the Busheviks invaded Iraq for both those reasons and so don't hold your breath for it.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:45 PM
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9. The United States should eat a whole lot of humble pie . . .
. . . should beg the United Nations to take this turkey off our hands, and should offer, in any way we can, to clean up some of the mess we've made.

Of course, it ain't gonna happen, but it's the only course of action that might possibly work.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 05:05 PM
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11. Beats the hell outta me
The entire world and a large minority in this country were against this idiotic invasion.

Smirk screwed it up like only he can, and nobody has a real clue on how to fix it.

My guess is just leave, because it'll only get worse and we'll be run out in the end anyway.

I don't think our "help" is appreciated. Kinda like getting mugged and having the mugger offer to help you back to your feet and take you home in his car....uh no thanks.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 06:19 PM
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13. I said other...
I want a multinational force to rebuild and secure Iraq. I just don't want it done through the UN.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 06:44 PM
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15. To use a cliche: "Let's Roll"
And by that I mean we should get the hell out.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 07:47 PM
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17. Not another bug out
We have responsibilities for the chaos we will leave behind. various gun factions have been enabled by removing the Iraqi Tito. NO occupation. Unfortunately the window of REALLY quickly installing Iraqi REAL self-government timeframe has passed and been subverted as well. We learned nothing from the Israeli Palestinian meatgrinder except to fake it. Well, actually it is Bush cronies who have ruined everything and keep the killing going. The bluff didn't work.

Substitute in quick steps a UN presence with Iraqi self-government(for real this time). UN takes over the oil distribtuion for the Iraqis. They always try to slide by the lifesblood of the nation. If some other nations dependent on oil benefit from gratitude alone and we lose it might be in our better national interest. You know a prosperous, free Russia not collapsing into mania and mobsterism with WMD's for sale? The UN stays to guarantee no coups, no Yugoslavia, no terrorism havens or WMD's. Go positive, selfless and fast. Even let the resistance movement believe they have won their one legitimate goal- freedom. US concentrates on becoming oil independent as no other nation can.

The sigh of relief at having heavy handed rapist Bushco gone for good wil create another window when violence and chaos can recede. On the other hand, a Dem trying somewhat with goodwill to change the situation now with America buried in the mess, would have less a chance and a smaller window of goodwill and NOT supported enough by the GOP Congress or idiotic media.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:03 PM
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18. US should withdraw and hand over rebuilding to UN but US should foot the
expense
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:17 PM
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19. I voted other.
I see two things right now, we need to get UN in and we need to get US forces out. That won't happen with Chimpy and Co. running things.

Knowing that, we have no choice but to send more troops, and appeal to the UN for assistance in stabalizing the country. Both must be done NOW while we still have a prayer in hell of getting out.
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