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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:37 PM
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What has to happen for Bush Regime to admit Iraq Invasion a failure ?
The UN, the IMF, the World Bank were attempting to help set up a "government", before the UN bombing - but have announced that they are now pulling out most of their people in Iraq? What impact will this have on rebuilding the infrastructure?

Do our troops have to go thru a "Beirut-type" massacre before people realize it is one of the most serious political blunders in our nation's history? How many more car bombs? How do they sell this as a success? They say, "At least the people are better off without Saddam Hussein.." But are they really?
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:38 PM
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1. The Bush regime will NEVER admit it's a failure.
In fact, they'll never admit anything is a failure; it's against their nature.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:39 PM
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2. Hell must freeze over
Nothing. Emperor*s, being "infallible", NEVER make mistakes.

Crusaders, even ones named Bunnypants*, who are merely God's Instruments, CANNOT make mistakes.

Totalitarian Monsters, like Hitler, Stalin and the "kinder and gentler" Emperor Tiberius*, are also infallible by nature, and thus are INCAPABLE of making mistakes.

That answer your question, kentuck?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:42 PM
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4. Yep !
They will never say it was a mistake. But will they be able to convince the people forever??
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:21 PM
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19. Man, even the RUSSIANS eventually figured out Pravda
On the other hand, Stalinist Pravda is to Bushevik Pravda what the kayak is to the aircraft carrier.

60 years of advances in psychomanipulative advertsising, dumbing people down and drugging them up, the creationg of the Right-Wing Sub-Media which people actually think isn't Party Affiliated Media as much as the Commie or Nazi Press...

Could "Farenheit 451" come to pass? Absolutely.

Will it? The outcome is still in doubt, but I must admit it doesn't look good.
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snyttri Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:42 PM
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3. independent investigation
If administration officials were called on the carpet to explain their actions and statements in a televised public independent investigation there would be a lot of apologizing going on.
The best reality show since the Watergate hearings.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:43 PM
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5. Military Families Speaking Out
IMHO
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:47 PM
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6. If the ghost of Hamlet's father appeared on the White House balcony . . .
. . . it still wouldn't be enough.

Now, if the ghost of Leo Strauss appeared, holding his own head as a lantern with a candle stuck on top, that might turn the trick, but short of that I can't think of a thing.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:53 PM
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7. They never will
When a Dem administration comes into power, it won't either.

This will go on for years. And when we are finally run out of Iraq, the repukes will blame whatever administration was in power at the time for not fighting the war correctly and it was a great idea, just the last administration didn't "do it right".

You hear the same crap from repukes about Vietnam.

It's just a matter of how many body bags come home before we are fed up enough to pull out. Iraq will NEVER be successfully occupied.

This idiotic PNAC crap is just more military adventurism and isn't even geo-politically cynical....it was just a completely STUPID thing to do.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:54 PM
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8. nothing will EVER make them admit it is a failure
I pity the ambush fodder in our military. They ahve been put in a no-win situation by an unelected nonPresident who is trying to conquer the world for his corporate buddies.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:56 PM
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9. time
a long time i am afraid... i think this is all part of their plan to provoke 'terrorist' that rummy has put in place post 911.

it is very dangerous because it feeds off itself and spells dome for ALL involved but i am sure they don't see it that way.

peace
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:03 PM
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10. Oh Kentuck! Don't make me say this: Hell has to Freeze Over!
I couldn't resist.....sorry......hanging head in shame...:eyes:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:06 PM
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11. LOL's Paine and I had the same thought...should have checked, but
to be more serious.......I don't know......I think he's a "broken man." Want's to get back to his life....and PNAC is running him like a "wind up." I think "Mz. Laura" is out "backpacking with her lady friends...enjoying a good life" and he can't even get a "full game of golf in."

NO! I don't feel sorry for his sorry piece of trash butt....for being a "willing player" for his Poppy.....But he doesn't have the intelligence to admit it and his handlers never will.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:08 PM
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12. ain't gonna happen --- wouldn't be prudent
for this bunch of arrogant, warmongering, war-profiteering weasels to have to give up their revenue enhancer would it?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:08 PM
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13. You want them to say "Uncle"???
That's childish -- and absolutely no 'standard' whatsoever. Indeed, using their specious pronouncements as any kind of 'standard' affords these reichsmonsters more legitimacy than they deserve.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:09 PM
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14. 'Our Victory' in Iraq is all they got for 2004!
What else can they brag about on the hustings next year? GRANTED, Iraq is nothing to brag about, but no matter how bad things get there, the RW will still wave flags and cheer, when it is mentioned.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:09 PM
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15. the media would have to turn against them from every angle
and that ain't gonna happen in my lifetime... :(
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:10 PM
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16. That's why they don't want to put in more troops...
will look like failure..
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:10 PM
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17. Are you kidding? We'll hold elections, prop up an unstable
government, declare victory, and boogie before the house of cards tumbles.

Then we'll have a confereration of terrorists groups running Iraq..

Hannity won't be saying, "You can't actually believe the world's not better without Saddam" in a few years!
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:18 PM
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18. the sudden discovery....
that iraq really does have WMD, as the last of 150,000 american troops and 25 million iraqi people suddenly die 2 days after the onset of cold-flu symptoms.

Truly, they worship their own dicks.... as long as they can get an erection to fuck some more people, then they must have done something right.... someone should saltpeter the white house water supply and discover a flaccid president for once.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:38 PM
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20. there it is
wait until kay finds the wmd's -- and he will{nudge and a wink}.
i wonder if this will force them to step up ''finding'' the weapons?
otherwise -- if monkeys fly out of george's ass on television they might say something about being wrong about iraq. of course using the flying monkeys as the new national threat.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 07:31 PM
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21. you're right!! those monkeys are a serious threat.
The kind of monkeys that fly out of AWOL's ass are not just regular monkeys, but reincarnated from the wizard of oz.... and all dog owners must be VERY afraid.

The threat against the canine west has never been so dangerous.... perhaps it will take barney confessing to being a bad dog to bring in the truth that republicans are criminal people fuckers and rapists.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 07:43 PM
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22. They would never admit it even if they knew it was true
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