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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:22 AM
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Poll question: Why Will Conservatives Vote Dem in 2004?
My wife and I were discussing the conservatives she knows at work who are finally over Bush. Her analysis is that there are some "social" issues (stem-cell research, for example) that are bugging the conservatives enough to get them to jump *'s ship. What do you think is going to bring them onboard?
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:30 AM
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1. One of the same things that brought down the Elder Bush.
The economy. When people have no, or little income, it affects them and their families directly. This is why the Dems need to hammer on Bushco and keep hammering until the nails are deep and permanent. There should be no let up unless bushco have a REAL plan to get good paying jobs and keep them here in America. We should be a leader in the world, not a job exporter and if there are higher paying jobs, then that will make this a stronger country. OK OK I'll get off my soapbox now.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:36 AM
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2. It's STILL the economy.....
...and Junior is far more STUPID than his daddy!

Republicans like to make money. Outside of the oil companies and defense related industries, they can't do so with the Idiot in the White House.

And as I mentioned in another thread yesterday, the "fiscal conservatives" aren't happy with the amount of spending this Fraudministration has done, violating one of the GOP 10 commandments.

I'm still hoping that Pat Buchanan or some other high profile right winger jumps into the race and splits the Repuke vote :evilgrin:
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Liberator_Rev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:37 AM
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3. They'll become "Liberals Like Christ"
We are showing them in order to follow Christ, they need to stop following "Conservatives like Paul" and learn to be "Liberals Like Christ". We would have a lot more success and SOONER, if more Liberals were helping us get the word around.


at http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Christlike .

See what Christ might say about the "Christian Coalition" & "Religious Right" imposters.

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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 10:44 AM
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4. Budget deficits
I voted for "economic policies."
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:11 AM
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5. Conservatives may become unhappy with any republican
but they will never vote for a Democrat. It would be the equivilent of a DUer voting for Bush because he was unhappy Leiberman got the Democratic nomination. I don't beleive your wife's co-workers are really conservative.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:18 PM
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6. Well,
I'm not sure how to define it, either. But, for example, the one who's ticked off about his stand on stem-cell research voted for him in 2000. And, apparently, also cast a vote for Dole. It's personal for her; her brother has a disease she's become convinced could be cured through that kind of research.

She may be an anomaly, however.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:23 PM
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9. I think Dean's pragmatism may appeal to them
I could see many rational conservatives voting for Dean because he makes rational pragmatic arguments rather than emotional ones.

This is a BIG reason he appeals to me.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 03:24 PM
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13. You aren't a conservative. I've lived in the middle of many
for my entire life.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:19 PM
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7. Winning the conservative white vote
Oh yes! Democrats should transform their whole message and ideology so that maybe 2% of white conservatives will think about maybe considering voting for them. Sounds like a winning formula to me!
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:21 PM
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8. Robb never said the Dems should do anything
Ree only asked why conservatives might ditch Bush if at all.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:24 PM
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10. They won't...
...not for social issues because Bush is socially reactionary (he need not do anything but cite his fundie record), not for economic issues because they think that they're doing just fine, and not for foreign policy because "we're at war."
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:41 PM
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11. so much depends on the conservative
myself a small "c" conservative, i can tell you that democrats that stand for small, effective government are more "conservative" than people than the people-fuckers in the WH.

Wesley clark could woo conservatives to a dem ticket. Also, knowing its a hot button, but still..... the drugs war is not "conservative".
A conservative only spends money where it gets results... and the drugs war is full of one thing... the lack of results.

A winning democratic ticket can rip off the reagan-80 voters who were sold a lot of lies about conservativism, and only now are coming round to seeing the light.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:43 PM
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12. I see them just sitting it out..
which is just fine with me.
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