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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:31 AM
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Speaking of BFEE "Hits," anyone wanna speculate on THIS?
WE know there's been a streak of convenient deaths among those who would cross swords with the Bush Cabal. Whether it be a reporter "committing suicide," or a whistleblower, or more than one political opponent's plane falling outta the sky, there's been a whole lotta dyin' going on that's benefitted them.

I'm surprised this one barely registered on the radar

(my added CAPS for emphasis)

'60 Minutes' producer dies at 34

NEW YORK (AP) — Trevor Nelson, a producer for CBS News' 60 Minutes, died on Thursday from complications from meningitis. He was 34. Nelson produced reports for correspondent Steve Kroft, including A RECENT STORY ON BUSINESS INTERESTS IN IRAQ BY VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY'S former firm. In three years, he produced 20 segments, 15 of which led the broadcast.

Kroft called Nelson the most talented young producer he had ever worked with.

"Trevor Nelson was a guy who had star written all over him," said 60 Minutes founder Don Hewitt. "I thought ONE DAY HE MIGHT BE THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF THIS BROADCAST."

I thought CBS showed lotsa balls in airing this segment; they did so during the Iraqi Invasion, when the media was at their most spineless. The thought did occur to me back then, "wow, I wonder if they'll pay the price for this."

Kinda reminds me of the circumstances surrounding the very first person to die of inhalation Anthrax; he "coincidentally" happened to be the photo editor at the Enquirer who made the personal decision to publish that photo of the Bush Twins cavorting on the barroom floor.

Anthrax, Meningitis. BIO-WARFARE?

Thoughts, anyone?

Captain Mike
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:37 AM
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1. Wouldn't surprise
me..put NOTHING past these--Dead men can't talk!
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:03 AM
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2. I found this one a while back. It's from two years ago.
Keep that coincidence cap handy -- there are a lot of coincidences.

I wasn't aware of DU at the time -- perhaps you all have discussed this before?

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Published on Wednesday, February 21, 2001
Global Citizen

Donella Meadows, Lead Author of The Limits to Growth, Has Died

Donella H. Meadows, 59, a pioneering environmental scientist and writer, died Tuesday in New Hampshire after a 2-week battle with bacterial meningitis.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0221-01.htm

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Donella Meadows (1941-2001) Obituary prepared by the Balaton Group http://www.newdream.org/meadowsobit.html

Donella H. Meadows, 59, a pioneering environmental scientist and writer, died Tuesday in New Hampshire after a brief illness. She was best known to the world as the lead author of the international best selling book The Limits to Growth, published in 1972. The book, which reported on a study of long-term global trends in population, economics, and the environment, sold millions of copies and was translated into 28 languages. She was also the lead author of the twenty-year follow-up study, Beyond the Limits (1992), with original co-authors Dennis Meadows and Jørgen Randers. Professor Meadows, known as “Dana” to friends and colleagues, was a leading voice in what has become known as the “sustainability movement,” an international effort to reverse damaging trends in the environment, economy, and social systems. Her work is widely recognized as a formative influence on hundreds of other academic studies, government policy initiatives, and international agreements.

Dana Meadows was also a devoted teacher of environmental systems, ethics, and journalism to her students at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, where she taught for 29 years. In addition to her many original contributions to systems theory and global trend analysis, she managed a small farm and was a vibrant member of her local community. Genuinely unconcerned with her international fame, she often referred to herself simply as “a farmer and a writer.”

...In 1972 she was on the MIT team that produced the global computer model “World3” for the Club of Rome and provided the basis for The Limits to Growth. The book made headlines around the world, and began a debate about the limits of the Earth’s capacity to support human economic expansion, a debate that continues to this day. Her writing - appearing most often in the form of a weekly column called The Global Citizen, nominated for the Pulitzer Prize in 1991 -- has been published regularly in the international press since that time. In 1981, together with her former husband Dennis Meadows, Donella Meadows founded the International Network of Resource Information Centers (INRIC), also called the Balaton Group (after the lake in Hungary where the group meets annually).

The group built early and critical avenues of exchange between scientists on both sides of the Iron Curtain at the height of the Cold War. As the Balaton Group’s coordinator for eighteen years, she facilitated what grew to become an unusually effective global process of information sharing and collaboration among hundreds of leading academics, researchers, and activists in the broader sustainability movement. Professor Meadows also served on many national and international boards and scientific committees, and taught and lectured all over the world. She was recognized as a 1991 Pew Scholar and as a 1994 MacArthur Fellow for her work. In 1992 the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) presented her with an honorary doctorate. In 1997, Professor Meadows founded the Sustainability Institute, which she described as a “think-do-tank.” The Institute combines cutting edge research in global systems with practical demonstrations of sustainable living, including the development of an ecological village and organic farm in Hartland Four Corners, Vermont. ...

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http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2001022201072

Dartmouth Adjunct Professor of Environmental Studies Donella Meadows died Tuesday of bacterial meningitis. Meadows, 59, was hospitalized at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center two weeks earlier, battling the rare and usually treatable disease. ...Her 1972 international best-seller, The Limits to Growth, placed her as one of the leading experts in the sustainability movement, which aims to reduce damaging global trends in human population and environmental degradation. She also managed an organic farm and wrote a weekly newspaper column, "The Global Citizen," which in 1991 earned her a Pulitzer Prize nomination. ...According to faculty and students, Meadows' amazing and inspiring presence will be sorely missed, not only at Dartmouth but throughout the world. "Everyone is very sad, not just in the Environmental Studies program, but all over the Dartmouth campus, the Upper Valley, U.S., and throughout the world," Professor of Environmental Studies and Environmental Studies chair Andrew Friedland said. Professor Emeritus of Chemistry and Environmental Studies James Hornig, who hired Meadows back in 1972, called her the most inspiring person he ever knew. "Over the past 24 hours I've probably looked at 50 email messages that came from people all over the world who knew her, and I think 'love' appeared in every one of them," Hornig said. According to Friedland, "Dana was beloved by her students; they were just passionate about her," and not one passed through her classes unaffected. Although Hannah Jacobs '02 was Meadows' student for only one month of this term, she said she's never had a teacher change her life as much in so short a time. "She made me look at life in a different way," through her inspiring message and alternative teaching methods, Jacobs said. ..."She was willing to speak out on all kinds of important issues, and had the background of a scientist but the understanding of a journalist, and above all, enormous love of humanity," Hornig said.


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IN MEMORIAM: DONELLA MEADOWS

Environmental advocate Donella H. Meadows, co-author of the influential LIMITS TO GROWTH report in 1972, died of bacterial meningitis on February 20 in New Hampshire. She was 59.
The report, prepared by the Club of Rome, stated that civilization could no longer support the rapid industrialization and growth patterns of the previous century, and the authors recommended "deliberate checks" on both population growth and economic development in order to rescue the planet's environment and resource bases. The New York Times predicted the report was "likely to be one of the most important documents of our age"; it sold 9 million copies and was translated into 28 languages.
Meadows was a 1994 recipient of a MacArthur Foundation "genius" grant. She wrote or co-wrote several more books, including BEYOND THE LIMITS (Chelsea Green, 1992), and wrote a nationally syndicated newspaper column, "The Global Citizen." At the time of her death, she was an adjunct professor of environmental sciences at Dartmouth College.

Perhaps it is poetic justice that, in the week of Donella's unfortunate passing, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change published the summary findings of their third assessment report, which fully vindicates THE LIMITS TO GROWTH and confirms many of its findings and arguments almost to the letter, writes Seth Itzkan, co-director of the Boston Chapter of the World Future Society....

http://www.wfs.org/futupmar01.htm

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Editorial
Donella Meadows 1942-2001
http://wvhc.drw.net/VoiceMar01/Editorial.Mar2001Voice.htm

People with a reasonably well-developed conscience, and the intelligence and sensitivity to have an accurate world view on the environmental state of the planet, tend to suffer despair these days. ...(Donella) must have felt a terrible burden to commit her every waking hour to doing the best she could to try and head off what she saw as impending doom. She was getting precious little help -- there were tens of thousands of her fellow human critters hell bent on destroying the planet through exploitation, and millions of "deadbeats" who had a glimmer of what was happening but chose to do nothing about it. Unfortunately, too many of the truly wise persons today like Dana are in Cassandra roles and must feel the full frustration of it.

In more recent months, perhaps in reaction to finding our nation being pushed by our new national leadership into the abyss of perdition, she began to take the gloves off so to speak. I was delighted when she assumed a more angry posture in a recent column about this leadership, and actually said in conclusion, "But the point of it - okay here’s the point - the point is, this political system sucks. The issues and concerns of the people are squeezed out by the issues and concerns of the centralized money-makers. The country runs on money-making at the expense of all other purposes and values."

In an even more recent column, alerted to the probable demise of the polar bear because of the loss of the arctic ice sheets, one could almost feel that she was fighting for her emotional life with more and more extreme bad environmental news coming in daily. "Is there any way to end this column other than in gloom? Can I give my friend, you, any honest hope that our world will not fall apart? Does our only possible future consist of watching the disappearance of the polar bear, the whale, the elephant, the redwood tree, the coral reef, while fearing for the three-year old (referring to the fact that the three-year olds of the world are already laden with man-made toxins stored in their bodies)

"Heck, I don’t know. There’s only one thing I do know. If we believe that it’s effectively over, that we are fatally flawed, that the most greedy and shortsighted among us will always be permitted to rule, that we can never constrain our consumption and destruction, that each of us is too small and helpless to do anything, that we should just give up and enjoy our SUV’s while they last - that’s the one way of believing and behaving that gives us a guaranteed outcome.
"Personally, I don’t believe that stuff at all. I don’t see myself or the people around me as fatally flawed. Everyone I know wants polar bears and three-year olds in our world. We are not helpless and the is nothing wrong with us. All we need to do, for the bear and for ourselves, is to stop letting that belief paralyze our minds, hearts and souls."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wednesday, August 7, 2002
Meningitis victim feels 'much better'
by Charles Gardner, The Dartmouth Staff
The Dartmouth Online
/http/www.thedartmouth.com/article.php%3Faid%3D200208070101

Kelly Cameron '04 was diagnosed with meningococcal meningitis this weekend and taken to Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center for treatment, where she was listed in satisfactory condition yesterday.
Cameron left intensive care on Monday and is "progressing very well," according to DHMC spokesperson Deborah Kimbell. ..."This is a terrifying illness, but I don't think students are at any higher risk of developing it than last week or two weeks ago," he said.
Meningitis, a disease that causes inflammation of the lining of the spinal cord and brain, is "in general not very contagious," Turco said. He explained that the illness instead periodically "pops up" in isolated incidents, with little clue to as to why it strikes certain people or places.

Though the disease can prove deadly if not detected in its early stages, Turco said in this case "the student was treated in time" for antibiotics to prove fully effective. ...The meningitis bacteria cannot survive for long outside the body, Turco said, so only those who may have had "intimate contact" with the student were given the medication. Currently, Kimbell said, "doctors are feeling very good about her prospects" and are hoping that Cameron will "be up and walking around a little bit" today. Surprisingly, the student had received the meningitis vaccine, according to Wondowski, but Turco said the current vaccine does not guarantee immunity.

"It doesn't work 100 percent of the time, but it's the best we have as of now," he said. ...Adults contract the disease only rarely, he said, as people generally will have built up antibodies to the meningococcus bacteria by later in life. The bacteria itself is present in benign form in up to 40 percent of people at any given time.

On a national scale, meningitis is an uncommon disease, striking only one person out of 100,000, though Turco said there is a "slight increase" in incidence among college-age students. Despite the relative rarity of the illness, Dartmouth has lost two of its own to meningitis over the past three years.

...
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:13 AM
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3. 1 out of 100,000?
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 02:17 AM by Must_B_Free
doesn't sound so rare to me...

(not that I think it was no coincidence)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 03:11 PM
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13. "Limits to Growth" incredibly important work.
The passing of Dr. Meadows is a tragic loss for our country and planet. The Club of Rome studied the effects of man on his environment. The book Dr. Meadows worked on summed up their findings. I read it in high school and have not forgotten its central lessons: Natural resources like water and petroleum are finite and will become scarcer as more of the world becomes industrialized.

"The Limits to Growth" and its authors were vilified by the monied interests and their stooges on the right. The thing about the work is that it gave us time to wake up and do something about it. Mr. William Donough is one of those making an enormous difference in American industry, in just one example. Too bad so many of the monied interests would rather hold on to that extra tax dodge in the Caymans rather than help build a better world. Then again, that's why they buy those deluxe emergency shelters in the forests and mountains.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:30 AM
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4. Nothing would surprise me.
I don't think we've seen the bottom of the BFEE/PNAC's depths of depravity yet, unfortunately.

:tinfoilhat: :scared:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:26 PM
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17. Hell, Silverweb, these are "The Good Old Days"
Just try imagining what it will be like to be an Imperial Subject in Amerika 2050? 2100?

We have not even scratched the surface of Bushevik fraud and depravity.

And just wait until the next generation of Caligulas come up.

I think there will be another marked downstep when the Emperor* becomes Lame-Duck Fuehrer* after the Stalinist Farce that is likely to be the 2004 Selection.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:33 AM
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5. bacterial meningitis
Ironically, that's another story 60 Minutes did--about a student who contracted bacterial meningitis and how rare it is.

Fascinating post, Zan. What an inspired life Donella Meadows led.



Cher

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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:41 AM
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6. yeah
I only vaguely had heard of her until I did the research. Sounds like a wonderful person, struggling with human limitations and ethics, coming up with unique answers, and making a difference.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:44 AM
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7. Relevant question
What is the fatality rate of that disease? That might be key as to determining if he was infected deliberately or just bad luck, as well as the rate of it being contracted by people.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 03:23 AM
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8. Getting the information will be difficult.
Ever since Bush came along, the CDC site has been stripped of its usefulness to the layman. Now you have to pore through a lot of crap just to get statistics on anything like this disease.
I did a story on this a few years back, and it is a rare disease that usually affects children whose immune system is compromised by flu or other illness and adolescents and college students, for the same reason. The microbes that cause the disease are everywhere; you get it when your immune system is not working properly. The chances for someone older than 30 to get it are slim unless they are also infected with HIV or hepatitis.
However, the disease does manifest itself as a strep strain and as a pneumonia-like strain. Both of these are often fatal in adults; the actual mortality rate is dependent on when the treatment begins.
Unless it is started early, the mortality rate is high; I can't remember the exact figures; but it is about 50/50, I believe.
It is possible that the strep type could be injected into someone. But I find it hard to believe that anyone would do such a thing.
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 03:40 AM
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9. yes, the infection usually hits a compromised immune system
Years ago, it often occurred in local public "lakes" where people swam in fresh water without chlorination.

I agree with Pink Tiger, and I also think that if you wanted to kill somebody, there are a lot more convenient ways of doing it.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 07:37 AM
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10. Some strains of meningitis can be extremely fatal...
if not diagnosed and treated soon enough.

There are random outbreaks where people are grouped together, and all hell breaks loose when it happens. When I was in Army signal training in the 60's, we had an outbreak at Ft. Gordon and the whole place went into disaster mode for a week or two after a couple of GIs died from it. It then disappeared as fast and mysteriously as it started.



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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:34 PM
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11. just a mid-day KICK
for this!

would really like some more input on this!

Captain Mike
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 03:03 PM
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12. Weaponized meningitis?!!
State executive action (assassination) may help explain the cluster of unusual deaths of so many of the world's microbiologists in recent months. The death of the UK's Dr. David "WMD" Kelly also is very suspicious. Here's some background posted on Rense.com


Dead Microbiologists Linked to Ethno-Specific BioWeapons

From Patricia Doyle, PhD
dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com
8-10-3


Hello, Jeff - Note the following exerpt from the article enclosed. I remember when I first read each news report about the death of separate microbiologists. Absolutely no one considered the fact that the deaths of the various microbiologists, especially the first five - Dr. Que, Wiley, Schwartz, Paschnek and Dr. Nguyen - were related. The press simply reported each death as it occurred and did not put the deaths together. In essence, no one connected the dots until you and I discussed the connection on your program.
 
It would appear that Dr. Kelly is related to the microbiologist deaths phonomenon. Please note the excerpt below. In the scheme of things, I wonder where Ken Alibek fits in? He is definitely one dot that I believe (allegedly) connects to, not only the microbiologist deaths, but the Anthrax attacks of 2001. I also believe that (allegedly) Don Rumsfeld is another dot.
 
If you remember, when we connected the dots i.e. put the deaths together, I discussed the possibility that each scientist had a "piece of the puzzle" in regard to a "target specific" bioweapon. I am wondering if SARS, somehow fits into the puzzle? Was SARS developed in China, or Israel? Does make one wonder.
 

Excerpt:
 
"The two American scientists he had worked with were Benito Que, 52, and Don Wiley, 57. Both microbiologists had been engaged in DNA sequencing that could provide "a genetic marker based on genetic profiling." The research could play an important role in developing weaponized pathogens to hit selected groups of humans"identifying them by race. Two years ago, both men were found dead, in circumstances never fully explained."
 
CONTINUED...

http://www.rense.com/general40/dead.htm
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 03:25 PM
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14. showed lotsa balls?
explain exactly what that means.
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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:51 PM
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15. needs explaining?
I mean, in this day and age, the way everyone's been soft-balling the Bush Cabal, I think both out of corporate self-interest and fear, the fact that 60 Minutes allowed this piece to air meant that they had some backbone.

Chutzpah!

Captain Mike
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:36 PM
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18. YES IT NEEDS F***ING EXPLAINING
WHY ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT *BALLS* ARE NEEDED FOR COURAGE??????????????????????????? IT'S F***ING SEXIST AND DEMEANING AND IT'S A F***ING LIE.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:20 PM
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16. We redflagged this one when it happened, Cap'n.
No surprises when it comes to the BFEE.
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