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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:42 PM Original message |
The best thing about Peak Oil and the coming financial apocalypse is... |
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taxidriver (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. other: anarchic civil war. |
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The Zanti Regent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
106. ...but when Jesus comes back, he'll make ALL THE OIL WE NEED... |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. No, we'll become Brazil. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 05:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
99. That would be a GOOD thing! |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Or we go back to the Gilded era with its robber barons |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. Let me just say, with all respect, |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. You BOTH are correct, but to varying degrees... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Put your double-layer tinfoil hat on for these |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Get the f*** outta here. |
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taxidriver (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. i dont understand the signifigance of the map. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
87. Oh, there's a bunch of psychics out there that predict |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Maybe, maybe not. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I gotta agree with you |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. You are correct, sir. |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
64. I think you made a mistake ... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Great point! |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Great post |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. True again |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Damn I'm saving that one |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Can we? Yes. Will we? Toss a coin! |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. Why will the horses be gaunt and sickly? |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Starving horses. And dogs. And cats. |
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nose pin (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Don't worry |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
75. I second that |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yeah, great, |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. To lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose... |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. Peak Oil is nonsense |
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Geo55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Have you actually explored the subject or are you "just sayin'" ? |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I've explored it in as much detail... |
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shadu (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Please give us a quick run down |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Here's some |
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Taylor Mason Powell (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. What about the argument that |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. What will really happen. |
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Taylor Mason Powell (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Time will tell. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. My sigline |
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Taylor Mason Powell (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Hilarious! |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I have the best dreams of anyone I've ever heard of. |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #40 |
100. You have offered good information on why a total |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 09:23 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Backup for no mass die-offs |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #101 |
109. I'm not sure what world you are looking at. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. OK, I see where you're at. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. That's pretty cruel, I think. |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. But peak don't you get it. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Oh, cool! I can envision the rich divesting themselves for the poor too! |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Me, cruel? Nah. |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. You aren't being realistic. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. A whole infrastructure? Really? |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:09 AM Response to Reply #40 |
107. What won't really happen. |
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cosmicaug (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Things having worked out O.K. in the past doesn't mean they always will. |
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Taylor Mason Powell (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. hee hee! That's a funny comment, but |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Please see post #22 above. |
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Dissenting_Prole (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Are you sure you understand the implications of peak? |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. No, I'm really quite stupid. |
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rustydad (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. Supply/Demand |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Peak buffalo was scoffed at, too. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Which of those led to an apocalypse, if any? |
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Geo55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Your right..... |
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gpandas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. what about reply # 20, birthtmark? eom |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I responded in post #22 above. |
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cosmicaug (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Only one. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. For the buffaloes, maybe. |
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Geo55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. "just just inconvenient" |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Your claim of a need for a CONSTANT flow of oil is unsupported. |
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cosmicaug (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I guess... |
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Geo55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. where you around in '73 |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Well actually, 1973 marked the date of peak oil in the USA |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
50. The mass-killing of buffalo was a crucial part |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Most of the Amerind.........I |
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cosmicaug (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Exactly. |
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cosmicaug (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. You know what the hell I'm talking bout. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. You think we palefaces merely inconvenienced native |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. For the Plains tribes, the loss of the buffalo |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #72 |
103. I agree. |
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redstateblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
84. Birthmark- Thanks For Keeping The Hysteria In Check |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 09:40 AM Response to Reply #84 |
102. Thank you. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Peak oil |
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Dissenting_Prole (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Apocalypse |
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cosmicaug (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. Common use. |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. Great Short Article On Peak Oil Here |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. Bike to work? |
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Dissenting_Prole (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. The best thing.... |
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mellowinman (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
33. For those of you who are interested in what the future will be like |
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drdigi420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
35. Hemp will be relegalized |
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Taylor Mason Powell (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Then we'll be dealing with Peak Hemp! |
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drdigi420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Hemp is renewable - no peak hemp |
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unhappy_guy (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
38. decrease in the population.. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
39. What "Peak Oil" really is |
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Geo55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. I see this as inevideble |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. Too bad it'll take 100 years to fix the disaster first |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
57. Gravy Train |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
60. One word |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
63. Without petroleum-derived agricultural fertilizers |
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Massacure (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I disagree with part of this |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. No separable causes |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. A Population Die-Out Would Not Be a Bad Thing |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 05:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
98. From my memory of how nitrate and ammonia-based fertilizers are produced |
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Mr.Green93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
65. Mad Max |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I'd rather saw my own leg off |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
70. As one who was alive in the 1950s |
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rustydad (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Why we are screwed |
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Geo55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Maybe end up as a global scale Easter Island |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 11:10 PM Response to Reply #77 |
90. "All in all, a better time"?... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. None of these had anything to do with oil |
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nose pin (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. Don't you think alot of this has to do |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
79. I Think You're WAY Off on #13 |
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nose pin (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
85. You do know that Canadians |
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Valerie5555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. FYI Europeans eat horsemeat for I'm quite sure in Canada we RIDE horses |
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nose pin (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 12:16 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Horse meat is available at the IGA |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
89. The Problem with Applying Peak Oil Theory |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 04:31 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Hubbert peak |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Response |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #89 |
108. Translation: |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Good Summary (nt) |
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Valerie5555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
92. Could anyone believe how Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the White House |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
94. If Al Gore had been able to take his rightful place in the WH |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
96. Chimpageddon! |
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treepig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
105. peak oil is a political, not a technological, problem |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #105 |
111. You're exactly right. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #105 |
114. Wow, that looks like a comprehensive list. Thanks. |
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