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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:51 PM
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THE TRUTH ABOUT INTELLIGENCE IN IRAQ: "BRING IT ON"
THE TRUTH ABOUT INTELLIGENCE IN IRAQ: "BRING IT ON"
by PATRICK G. COY

Time magazine reports that in March 2002, President George W. Bush met with a group of senators at the White House. He seemed little interested in debating what to do about Iraq. Instead, he said simply, "F--- Saddam, we're taking him out."

Those six, stark words, uttered long before he tried to discredit inspections and promote war, are but one reason why we need a congressional investigation into "Weaponsgate." But on July 16, the GOP-controlled Senate blocked a proposal (51-45) for an independent bi-partisan commission to investigate Iraq-related intelligence and Bush policy decisions. The Republicans appear to be running scared, and for good cause. Here are just a few of the other reasons why America needs such a commission.

Bush officials claimed repeatedly that al-Qaeda was an active ally of Iraq, but no links have ever been demonstrated. Not even close. Bush officials also trotted out the white man's burden: that the U.S. was obligated to liberate the oppressed Iraqis. Vice President Dick Cheney assured America that Iraqis would welcome us as liberators. Thus, when senators asked Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz shortly before the war whether he agreed with an Army chief of staff estimate that it would take about 200,000 troops to occupy Iraq, his reply was glibly deceitful: "Wildly off the mark."

But with 150,000 troops in Iraq months after a declared "victory," chaos reigns. The U.S. is so desperate for troops from other countries to help fight the guerrilla war we were assured wouldn't materialize that controversial weapons sales are now being used to bribe India to send troops. The U.S. will pay $240 million for 9,000 Polish soldiers. Costs in Iraq are now double what Pentagon officials testified they would be only a few short months ago. Iraqis, Americans and Brits continue to die daily.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 09:51 PM
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1. Did this have lead weights I didn't notice?
:eyes:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:21 PM
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2. The help is not forth coming because the chimp swaggered his way
into this mess, stepping on all kinds of toes.

Now that he could use those toes, its much too late.

He has learned a bitter lesson. never cut off your friends before a battle, one where things can go wrong.

So now the shrub is reduced to struggling, trying to keep afloat and from sinking.

Listen to his comments today. His voice reveals a man all fucked up. He is not instilling passion in the masses, no credibility anytmore, no assurances, no nothing. His talk is all talk, empty as the rain barrel in the Mojave. The people know it, he knows it but he must say the things he is expected to. Its all very hollow. So is he.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:27 PM
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4. "Be careful of the toes you step on today, may belong to the ass you have
to kiss tomorrow!"
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:27 PM
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3. Nice Article, TahitNut.
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 10:28 PM by David Zephyr
$240 Million for 9,000 Polish Soldiers. $26,666 per soldier.

Coalition of the Willing to Sell Their Children to War for U.S. Bucks.

Hey you radical!

I was in SF all of last week. It was very cool and nice with breezes. I went up to the Muir Woods for a day. Spent the evenings cramped in the City of Lights Bookstore making sure that Ascroft could keep up with everything I was reading.

I kept thinking, "Hmmm...I bet TahitiNut is around here somewhere."

OXOXOX :hi:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:17 PM
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9. I left my heart in San Francisco!
I miss the Bay Area dearly ... I feel like a fish out of water. Back to my origins here in Michigan, I feel I've returned to purgatory. {sigh} Well, at least the last couple of days here have seen weather somewhat closer to that I love in San Jose. But I sure miss the people, the geography, the horizons, the smell of the air, and everything. {sob}
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:30 PM
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11. We Miss You TahitiNut
:hi: leaving the bay area porch light on for you :hi:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 10:56 PM
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5. "F---k Saddam, we're taking him out." This story replays at a perfect time
Chimpy's approval numbers are headed downward and anxious military families are beginning to ask questions about why their kids are over there.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:01 PM
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6. Junior said "Fuck Hussein, we're taking him out" to Senators in March '02?
I want that shouted from the rooftops. All of the "we're going to negotiate" and "use normal channels" and all that rot is just more proof of lying. This shows that ANY allusion, statement or suggestion to any course of action other than this little gangster's ordering of a hit is murderous deception. EVERY reference from March 2002 on to anything other than the blind fixation on aggressively attacking Hussein is ugly mendacity of the worst kind.

I also want the fundies to hear Mr. Morality say "Fuck Hussein, we're taking him out." That's vulgar, ugly and sounds like someone used to killing to get his way.

Who were the Senators at this meeting?
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:03 PM
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7. a loud burp, slurring of words
and the strong smell of alcohol :evilgrin:

you left that part out Tahitinut
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:26 PM
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10. According to the story
The infamous temper tantrum has already been reported in Time Magazine. It didn't have any traction then and I don't know if it will now.

Personally, I'm with you.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 11:05 PM
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8. The Brits are investigating the truth of the evidence that
they had for going to war and are asking hard questions. Even if there is no investigation here, the lies will be exposed in other countries. Bush, Rummy, and Condi et al will be exposed even if it isn't done by Americans. His people can't cover this up, no matter how much they might try. I will try to dig up some links and post them.
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