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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:06 PM
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I swear if I hear * LIE about Kerry's 87 billion vote one more time
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 07:07 PM by noahmijo
You know I can't get over this. How the fuck can people still not be aware of this lie, and see that in this issue it was SHRUB who was playing politics with the soldier's lives, it is SMIRK who sent troops without proper equipment, and Kerry refused to support a blank check deal with * to pay off Halliburton at our expense and the troops' expense.

Kerry wanted a REAL solution to help the troops not some half assed taxpayer funded bullshit deal which as shown as done NOTHING for the troops but plenty for Halliburton (hey $20+ million for my boys good deal! and the "have mores" don't even gotta pay a dime for it whoo-weeee!!!!)

I am going crazy I swear that lying sack of fucking shit up there in with his smug smirk lying so carefree about this issue while his yahoo supporters cheer him on and actually believe that he cares about the troops while Kerry doesn't...

You know what everyone do me a favor when * comes to your town scream this out so everyone can hear just say it "YOU ARE A LYING SACK OF SHIT! YOU'RE THE ONE WHO REFUSES TO SUPPORT THE TROOPS YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SENT THEM ILL EQUIPPED YOU ARE THE ONE WHO PUTS YOUR RICH BUDDIES AHEAD OUR TROOPS SAFETY!!!"
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:08 PM
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1. Lie or not, Kerry's going to have to deal with it.
...and it'll be difficult because Bush's representation of Kerry's actual votes IS accurate.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:12 PM
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4. No it is NOT
Bush represents that Kerry voted against supporting the troops.

Truth: Kerry voted for an amendment that would've funded the $87 billion by repealing the tax cuts on the top 2%

Bush THREATENED TO VETO THIS MEASURE (Fuck it put it on the tab don't make mah boys pay for it)

Then KNOWING that the * was going to pass, and as a protest to force the president to come up with a true measure to help the troops he voted against *'s bullshit measure.

THAT IS THE FACT.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:23 PM
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9. As I said, the actual vote record is accurate.
The situation isn't helped by the fact that Kerry foted for the IWR, too.

Kerry is going to have to find a clear way to explain his positions to the average voter that they find believable.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:29 PM
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11. It isn't accurate. A vote agaisnt a military bill isn't the same againt
..supporting the troops.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:39 PM
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13. It IS accurate. The rest is just semantics.
It's called campaigning, and most politicians do it. Intent is impossible to prove. Kerry has to find a way to deal with the FACT that he voted as he did and the opposition will attempt to spin it the way they have.

So far, I haven't heard anything from him that would sound believable to the average voter. I'm hoping he changes that.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:09 PM
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15. Exactly noahmijo, Kerry needs to expain this to people...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:11 PM
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16. see my post #10 below
I am worried that Kerry has been unable to knock this softball out of the park.
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:09 PM
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2. Thanks for that
you said it all. From a fellow

WILD-EYED DEMOCRAT!!!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:11 PM
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3. Kerry needs to call for a debate (face-face) immediately
he needs to start calling * a coward and a sissy until the liar has to defend himself.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:13 PM
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5. He better bring this up because
This lie seems to be his biggest bullet.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:27 PM
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10. the response would be simple
"I voted FOR a resoultion that would have had the richest Americans pay for this invasion. I voted AGAINST making my grandchildren pay for it."

End of argument.
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. This response (#10) needs
to be sent directly to the Kerry campaign. Anybody know how to do it?
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:15 PM
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6. You are right. They can't win telling the truth so they lie. Like the
new one out about the Laci Peterson bill. They have nothing to run on so they have to distort and outright lie. I truly believe that the only people voting for Bush are those who are easily brainwashed and not capable of independent thought.
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:19 PM
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7. yeah, I noticed that one, too
how, exactly, would a bill "protect a pregnant woman from violence," anyway? Is it a bullet-proof vest or something????
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:44 PM
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14. Worse than that even. I heard today that it's a federal bill and only
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 07:50 PM by kikiek
time you would be prosecuted is if it occured on federal property. It's a hollow bill. In the mean time Bush refused to fund programs to stop violence against pg women. If this admin doesn't burn in hell no one will.http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-unborn-victims,0,3191078.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:19 PM
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8. Kerry should mop him in the debates,
Unless the media starts downplaying Poor George's debating skills again.....
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 08:23 PM
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17. Kerry needs to hire someone...
who can come up with simple Dumbya type of responses to Dumbya's blatant lies. Kerry is too complex in his speech. Most voters are on the the level of Dumbya or below, which is why Dumbya is so popular with them. He makes them feel half way smart. Kerry needs to dumbya down to reach the "average" voter.
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