How does it feel to be lectured about marriage when divorce rate...

[Selwynn]

..amoung heterosexual couple is something like over 50%? When infidelity is a common occurance. When spousal abuse is epidemic? When divorce rates get even higher if you look at conservative Christian households?

Do you ever thing maybe hetero people should really just shut the fuck up until they can put their own house in order, and quit trying to talk about the "sanctity" of an instition they rarely honor themselves?

[salinen]

1. "Family Values"

The RW wants to have control over my Penis.

[mzmolly]

2. YES! As a hetero person, I agree with you.

What's also hypocritical is that the facists (who are against Gay marriage) claim to be supportive of family values. Yet they don't want to allow Gay's to partake in a so called family value like Marriage.

They want to define "families" on their very narrow terms.

It angers me to no end!

[Literate Tar Heel]

4. I don't think Bush and most of the Republicans

who are pushing this issue really care whether gay people can marry or not ... it's just a useful issue to get their right-wing nutjob fundie base all up in arms and out to the polls ... I think the Republicans are cynical, opportunist, and intolerant, but in most cases the cynicism and opportunism outweigh the intolerance, especially in an election year

[terrya]

3. Look at the culture....

Reality shows (most of which are on that great "family values" channel Fox) trivializing marriage. Shows such as "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" treating marriage as nothing more than a damn game show. Not to mention nutjobs like Britney Spears who treat marriage as a joke.

None of which has anything to do with gay people.

[Selwynn]

6. Oh I so strongly agree with that!

It's a crying shame.

[eyesroll]

5. My personal favorite is how Rick Santorum believes that legalizing

same-sex marriage will increase the out-of-wedlock birth rate.

[Selwynn]

7. "The magic wonder-twin powers of the union of penis and ass"

Jon Stewart is freaking hilarious... :D

[eyesroll]

10. Yeah, I caught the rerun yesterday

"He used to be a pitcher..."

Still, I'm so not getting the "logic" behind that proclamation.

[stanwyck]

8. I get lectured all the time

about family values. I've been married for 25 years and have two 20-year olds (twins). Yet, people with multiple marriages, toxic relationships with their family members, and court ordered child support payments overdue, lecture me because I don't support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. It sure is tiresome during the holidays listening to my brother-in-law (on his fourth marriage, not speaking to two of his grown children) blather on and on about "those people" who breed like animals and then don't take care of their children (he didn't pay child support) and "those people" who engage in blasphemous sexual practices which are against the Bible's teachings. (he doesn't attend church and cheated on his former wives). Reminds me of good ole Newt and Bob Barr. Serial divorcers and adulterers who smugly derided liberals for their immorality. Newt even blamed Democrats for Susan Smith drowning her two young sons. Never mind (really..never mind) that her Republican committee man stepfather had been sexually molesting Smith since she was in middle-school.

[Meldread]

9. You are exactly right.

That's why I think we should start beating them at their own game. Whenever I hear a Conservative use the term "Sanctity of Marriage" I bring up what you bring up, and then I point to Matthew 7:1-5 in the Bible. Makes 'em shut up real fast. Especially if you ask them "Are you questioning God?"

If they are some what intelligent they'll bring up the 7 Bible Passages that condemn Homosexuality. There are talking points against those as well, but you can easily refute those by pointing to other Bible Passages that condemn divorce, and other such things that even the extremists look upon as extreme (such as not wearing clothing made of anything but 100% cotton). Works even better if you know them and are able to point to their own flaws. You can beat them at their own game, and piss them off. ;)

[Literate Tar Heel]

11. Corinthians 7:28-29

"Yet those who marry will experience distress in this life, and I would spare you that. I mean, brothers and sisters, the appointed time has grown short; from now on, let even those who have wives be as though they had none."

maybe they should push an amendment to ban marriage for everyone

[Nay]

12. As a heterosexual, I completely agree.

It's total BS for these fuckwads to talk about the sanctity of the institution of marriage. They abuse the institution at every turn.