people who say 'it's scary', or, 'i'm scared' in their posts

[JSJ]

Surely we're made of sterner stuff than that.

[Sweetpea]

1. Yes...I keep a picture of Harriet Tubman on my desktop

to be reminded of how scary it can get.

[seabeyond]

2. fear is merely an illusion

creating a real pain for something that doesnt exist. a thought of the future or the past,........not something in the now

no fear here, wink

[JSJ]

3. du-ers who say this really irk n/t

[Journeyman]

What amuses me about these posts. . .

is how the same poster will then wail about how "the sheeple" are blindly following Shrub and how it can't possibly be true that so many people support BushCo, when the truth is so much of that support is simply frightened people who look to the pRetzeldent in hopes that the office -- no matter who's in it -- will give them the stability and vicarious strength to make it through these "dark times."

But the frightened people on this side -- whose legitimate concern is the immediate threat to their civil and constitutional liberties -- can't see the fear in their neighbor's eyes, this fear of the unknown which their neighbor feels is so immediate and has such a blazing image on their conscious and in their fears.

[troublemaker]

4. This is a fairly objectionable sentiment

I'm glad your life is tranquil, but there is much for even non-hysterics to fear in American politics. We imprison people at the highest rate on the planet. Given that established national trait, just how much more right-wing can we afford to get?

American politics has consequences for Americans (and others) and some consequences are legitimately frightening.

(The prospect of being further alienated from your own society is also rather scary, since our society is our last refuge when all else fails.)

[JSJ]

5. fear is always the wrong reaction to a threat...

...while intolerance and anger are the correct responses.

[Pepperbelly]

79. au contraire ...

Fear is a survival-based biological reaction to threat. Personally, I have been in some egregiously dangerous situations and have been very afraid. And what scares one person, because of the uniqueness of each person's experience, may just cause another to yawn.

Sometimes, I think folk are merely using dramatic license though.

[PVnRT]

That imprisonment is based on racist drug laws

which desperately need to be reformed, if not eliminated.

[Must_B_Free]

6. I'm afraid you're right

[JSJ]

8. nothing to fear but fear itself

Not to say that fear isn't a normal human response to immediate threats to one's safety or that of a loved one. But the only response from a political foe to expressed fear will be to exploit your fear and to call into question your stalwartness.

[yellowdawgdem]

7. nothing wrong with admitting fear

Yes, people probably do overuse that image a bit, but it should be ok to express fear or scariness since that is such a normal reaction to all the chaos lately. We need to toughen up but not turn a blind eye to the many scenarios that trigger these fears and scariness.

[Toucano]

9. AMEN!

I remember last fall when there was a rash of posts with a subject like, "Suddenly I'm really afraid of (insert primary candidate's name)!"

It eventually became a total joke, but it taught me to distrust the expression of fear in any subject line. :)

[scared]

10. I'm scared that my son will be drafted.......

Don't like that? Tough.

[JSJ]

11. seems a little premature at this early stage

But you should replace your fear- which is paralysing to the mind- with thoughtful meditation. Then you might better see your options should the draft ever actually rear it's ugly head up again. But, really, expressing fear either now or later is self-defeating.

[Sugarbleus]

12. Me too scared.... got a grandson not far from draft age...

YOUNG people NEVER see that there is an end eventually... they think they are invincable, they are strong (that's good), nothing bad will happen. That will change soon.............

I don't stand and shake in my boots; I'm a tough old broad. I dish out like I get. I don't go around wringing my hands but I do take time to calm down with something pleasant when things DO get heavy.

There are all sorts of things to be edgy about. Especially these days. Perhaps if you are a younger person, it doesn't seem that way to you...nothing worried me when I was young that's for sure. It's all different now.

I worry about Social security; about work for my kids/grandkids; about the war and my said g.son; about healthcare; about housing and homelessness. shit. There's plenty to get freaked over and make me lose sleep from. I take it day by day and get involved in helping change things the best way I can........but my days are running out.

[JSJ]

14. 'edgy' is good to be- 'scared' is not n/t

[Toucano]

13. In the words of an immortal Democratic leader...

"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself -- nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

FDR, March 1933.


Bush wants you to be afraid. That's uh...the "plan". So you're telling me he can say "Mission Accomplished" with regard to you? Nice.

As you may or may not know, Rush and his freeper disrupters love to characterize us as scared and afraid. It helps bolster their spirits when they think they've already won because they know the value of "terror which paralyzes".

Do him a favor and put your fear in the subject line so he can find you easily. Okay? Thanks!

[JSJ]

15. exactamente, dralston!

Fear plays right into the hands of the 'little dictator'and his 'dobermans'.

[indigobusiness]

25. I fear what Bush has done to your thinking.

Pretenders are only cool as a rock and roll band.

[JSJ]

32. will you get the hell away from me with that...

...fear shit?

[jukes]

16. idiots fear nothing

bravery means acting despite your fear.

[merh]

27. So you admit to fear? (n/t)

[JSJ]

17. it's the unneccessary public expression of fear...

...that offends me. Keep it under wraps, if possible.

[merh]

29. What is a pre emptive war other than fear with weapons?

Hasn't weedboy shown his fear of the unknown by attacking anything that vaguely resembles the boogey man he fears.

[JSJ]

31. bush has shown a visceral fear...

...of exactly that. Let's not let anyone emulate him.

[indigobusiness]

18. Pretending to be fearless

is merely false bravado.

[Kanary]

20. Amen

Having emotion police watching our every move doesn't make life very much better than *

[JSJ]

21. pretending to be fearless...

...is not only more adult (keeps the children from wiggin'), but it also discombobulates your foes.

[indigobusiness]

22. You Win the Penis-Diplomacy Award

Ain't no children wiggin on DU. And my foes are already discombobulated. Truth trumps lies.

[JSJ]

24. if fear is a contagion...

...then you're a carrier. Save your immature putdowns for someone 'afraid' of them. And yes, there probably are children- as legally defined as- here at DU. But, for your info, I was speaking of the kinder in homes where fear is present. Perhaps you have such a home. I will agree, however, that 'truth trumps' lies, but only in the absence of fear.

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[indigobusiness]

35. I was around when your mother feared

she was pregnant with you.

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[indigobusiness]

38. Getting edgy ( fearful)? This is what I think of your lame style of war

[Kanary]

23. And all this time I thought honesty was "adult"

and game-playing was for the kids.

[JSJ]

26. well, you do what you feel is best...

...but don't expect me to buy your 'fear is a legitimate response to risk/threat' routine. Like I said before in so many words, be afraid, if you must, but don't try to contaminate other people with your fear. It's a loser for any movement worth it's salt.

[Kanary]

33. Well, as "they" say.......nobody can make you feel anything

So, what you feel is your thing. It doesn't come from anyone else.

[JSJ]

34. brilliant!

what the hell is that suppose to mean?

[Kanary]

37. ??? You're the one posing as some emotional expert,

I'm sure you can figure it out.

You're Responsible For Your Own Self -- emotions aren't "contagious". :crazy:

[indigobusiness]

19. I advocate honesty.

Phoniness is particularly irksome.

[thebigidea]

39. "They say fear is a man's best friend." - John Cale

[indigobusiness]

41. What's the big idea?

You trying to civilize us?

[JSJ]

45. fear of hunger, fear of having no shelter, fear of abuse..

...are legitimate concerns. But fear of something that's easily thwarted? Like a Bush fascist theocracy? Come on. Fear is enervating. Action is invigorating. Get with it, all you fearful white liberals! Turn you fright into might! At the very least, stop telling everyone what big soft and yielding genitalia you are.

[indigobusiness]

67. Bravado isn't courage

and fear isn't a concern, it is an emotion. And you...well, you know what you are.

[meow mix]

40. some things are alarming, i thought it was just an expression of that.

the hens are pecking though..

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[TheWatcher]

46. Ah, looks like our little "Master Over All Emotions" has gone to bed

Must be a school day tomorrow.

[G_j]

51. LOL

[indigobusiness]

52. No, but we've reduced him to jibberish

which is something of an improvement.

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[indigobusiness]

48. Maybe, but he fears having a sense of humor...

and our lack of attention.

[JSJ]

50. how about another one of your penis/mother references, kid? n/t

[JSJ]

55. The Frightened Come Out At Night

So, I'm a 'disruptor' now for calling all of us on our tendency to play the fear card--- against ourselves, no less. What utter lunacy. What, in fact, a disrupting ploy it is to call out 'disruptor' when confronted with a trait we don't like having exposed...exposed. The trolls who've attacked should be afraid- very afraid- of... their own irrational fears. Don't succumb- not on their word.

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[JSJ]

63. two more edits and you should get it right- NO FEAR! n/t

[TheWatcher]

64. Are you still here?

[JSJ]

47. BIGGTER? Sober up, young'un! n/t

[JSJ]

49. quick edit saves your sorry ass

[G_j]

54. bad etiquette don't you know?

correcting ppl on their spelling

considered rude here

[JSJ]

57. and the crap he spewed?

Don't try and play me like a chump. The kid is getting the benifit of the doubt from me in that I didn't call him stupid- which was my immediate take- but rather he is drunk. Don't like it? Oh well.

[indigobusiness]

59. There's a world of things he doesn't know

but we're trying.

[indigobusiness]

56. Nothing will save yours.

You're not only petty, but slow.

[JSJ]

58. yeah, but I'm sober n/t

[TheWatcher]

61. No you just assume the mntal/physical sates of others.

And we all know, whenever you assume.....

Well, you should know the rest. You seeem to live by it.

[JSJ]

62. Party's Over, Trolls

Be afraid- for it is your fear that will destroy you.

[TheWatcher]

66. Look I know your bowells are bothering you.....

But give the laxative some time to work.

You'll feel better in about eight hours.

[indigobusiness]

69. He'll deny that, too.

and resort to the province of fools: name-calling.

[indigobusiness]

65. I'm afraid he's gone...

Nighty-night, sweet prince...

[TheWatcher]

68. Oh, But I'm sure he'll be back.

They probably didn't want him over at Yahoo either. Where else has the poor little stray got to go? :)

That's what I love about late night DU.

You never know what's going to crawl out.

[indigobusiness]

70. We can only hope...

but he usually naps after his late feeding.

[Forkboy]

71. I'm afraid

that judging by your sophmoric responses that you wont be around much longer.

[JSJ]

73. very sophmoric of you

[Forkboy]

74. I'm not the one accusing people of being drunk

because they dont kiss my ass :shrug:

[JSJ]

75. one person I called drunk

And that was only after he started with the penis and 'your mother' jabs. Try reading without bias, for a start.

[Forkboy]

78. Two people

Indigo and kanary in post 42.

Try reading for comprehension,for a start.

[JSJ]

80. they are one and the same...

...according to my bullshit-o-meter/troll detector.

[Forkboy]

81. But they're not

and you claimed you said it to one person.Your bullshit o meter/troll detector needs fixing,or it's just reacting to your own presence.

[JSJ]

82. engage in juvenalia on your own- I will no longer respond n/t

[Forkboy]

83. Aw,dont be scared just because I proved you wrong

I wouldn't respond if I was you either.

[JSJ]

72. Let Us Reassure the Fearing...

...yet not promote fear. Anyone second that?

It has occured to me that this is a community eager to support concerned people, not condemn or minimize those who come here to have their fears heard and assuaged. we live in tremulous times, after all.

[Speed8098]

76. What's the point?

Seriously, exactly what are you trying to achieve here?

Did you come here to talk politics or do you think this assinine post is funny?

Look around you, you're in the wrong neighborhood. :nuke:

[JSJ]

77. other than engaging in piling on, what is your point?

My point is in the thread header. I make no apologies to trolls who feel it is their duty to attack in support of other trolls. However, there was enough support for my post to render yours' and the others' irrevelent. You must have posted an 'I'm scared' or an 'it's scary' post before- the others must have too.

[JSJ]

84. looks like the trolls have left- now is a good time to wrap...

...this thread up. It was a good thread and to the credit of DUers here, there hasn't been one single 'it's scary' or 'I'm scared' post since this thread started- at least not one that didn't come from a troll. But, please read post #76 for my final thoughts. It was not my intent to keep any Duer from expressing fearful thoughts- at least it isn't now. DUers are here to comfort good people and that should apply as well to people telling about their trepidations.

[Forkboy]

85. It's against DU rules to accuse others of being a troll

:hi:

[Moderator]

86. Locking.......

Personal attacks are rule violations. Here are the rules:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html#civility

If you feel that someone is a disruptor, please use the
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can evaluate the situation. Calling someone a disruptor/troll
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