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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:46 PM
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The great gift of F9/11 was to expose.... the Media
Moore has singlehandedly made the whoremedia irrelevant. Every piece of Bushit from the Rove enablers will forever be seen as the crap we all know it is.

Moore has given us the venue we dreamed about. Bush has been exposed from Kansas to Missisippi to Dale Earnhart in North Carolina to Dallas and all the Red and Blue states.

Moore has exposed Bush, true. But more importantly, Moore has exposed the media which is down on its knees 24/7 for BushCo. The only exceptions are CBS 60 Minutes and the Daily Show. And occasionally, though less frequently, PBS. And maybe one or two more.

Moore has also exposed the Dems who failed to read the Patriot Act and voted for the War.

As time passes, F9/11 will either be seen as the epochal event which helped to revitalize our democracy... or was just the last gasp of freedom's breath before succumbing to a Fascist regime.






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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:52 PM
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1. I can't wait to see this thing!!
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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 08:01 PM
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2. You wrote:
"As time passes, F9/11 will either be seen as the epochal event which helped to revitalize our democracy... or was just the last gasp of freedom's breath before succumbing to a Fascist regime."

I hope it is the former, but, I think more needs to be done. I don't think F-9/11, in and of itself, is going to be enough to provoke a "democratic revival". It's a great start though. There's certainly enough "material" for another movie or two (as I suggested in a thread posted just after yours).
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 08:03 PM
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3. This is why the whore media is pulling out all stops...
to lambaste this movie. It is an indictment of the whore media.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:06 AM
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9. exactly
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:44 AM
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17. Well, they're not necessarily pulling out enough of them...
... because each time Moore has been invited on one of those morning "infotainment" programs, he has completely and utterly demolished his interviewer.

He took down Matt Lauer and then Katie Couric from "Today", and then moved on to actually ambush Hannah Storm ON HER OWN SHOW, the CBS Early Show.

Combine that with Lila Lipscomb going on ABC's "Good Morning America" and shooting down Charlie Gibson's attempts to make it appear as if Moore had somehow "used" her, by telling him flatly that Moore allowed her final say on her appearance in the film throughout, and that she stands by him and the movie.

Furthermore, remember that more people probably see these empty-headed shows than read any of the articles lambasting Moore or regularly watch the cable news talking heads.

I hope I'm not speaking prematurely, but I believe the worm may be turning....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:48 AM
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19. they certainly are in hysterics over it, eh?
Gawd it is so FUN to see.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 08:04 PM
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4. Indeed
Journalist after journalist is shown rhapsodizing Bush, his administration and the war. Each and every one of them carried forth that which we now know to be bald-faced lies: That Iraq had WMDs, that Iraq was a threat, that we had to go, and that everything is fine. It was a slideshow of the nonsense Americans have been spoon-fed for far too long.

If you doubt this, Sidney Blumenthal's aggressive and effective actual journalism, as found in his most recent report titled 'Reality is Unraveling for Bush,' should help you along. "Most of the media was on the bandwagon or intimidated," writes Blumenthal. "Cheney himself called the president of the corporation that owned one of the networks to complain about an errant commentator. Political aides directed by Karl Rove ceaselessly called editors and producers with veiled threats about access that was not granted in any case. The press would not bite the hand that would not feed it."

With a single stroke, Michael Moore has undone three years of poor, slanted, biased, factually bereft, compromised television journalism. This, in the end, is the final greatness of 'Fahrenheit 9/11.' Not only will Americans get a sense of the depth of the deception they have endured, but 'journalists' all across the country will be forced to endure the humiliation they so richly deserve.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/0625041.shtml
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:02 AM
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7. Rhapsody - Katie Couric "Navy Seals Rock" summed it all up.
She was a f**kin' cheerleader at that point.


:evilfrown:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:51 AM
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21. they also parrotted that Iraq would be a cakewalk
because that's what the White House thought.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 02:10 AM
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5. kick
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:41 AM
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6. Actually the media did it themselves
I would wager a good many of us have given up on the media. They haven't met our needs. As I said in an essay I wrote not too long ago, it's a bit hard to process the beheading of a fellow American one minute and the latest designer handbags the next.
Moore just vocalized their failure and betrayal of us in a way that can't be shouted down or whisked away. He is a hero....
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DrWho Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:05 AM
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8. i agree
The Media has been failing us on a daily basis since 9/12/2001.

It's a complete shame and a sham.

Ask the damn questions, just ask the damn question.
Make Bush actually answer, something, anything.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:37 AM
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14. wrong
They've been failing us since at least Reagan's administration, when they didn't go after all the scandal shit that went on -- starting with the October Surprise, actually, which was BEFORE the Reagan administration.

Bush's Impending Watergate
By Harvey Wasserman
originally published on May 23, 1991
http://old.valleyadvocate.com/25th/archives/bushs_watergate.html
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:52 AM
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22. yes
and they certainly had no problem asking the hard questions of our last REAL president.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:14 AM
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13. I've noticed this week
that I've had a harder time turning on any of the cable news shows since I saw the movie. I just don't want to hear it anymore from these empty headed sycophants. I find it truly a testament to many in this country that Kerry is doing as well as he is with an overwhelming majority of the press still licking the chimps boots.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:39 AM
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15. It's not that Kerry's doing well
It's that Bush is doing so badly. We've got a choice between an "EEEEK!" and a "Ho Hum." Kerry would be in trouble if it weren't for the "EEEEK!"
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:58 AM
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24. Me too....
when I turn to these cable news show I think to myself that I am sick and tired of their bullshit lby egitimizing Bush's presidency...I don't need this crap anymore....enough is enough!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:06 AM
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10. How can we make the media do its job?
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Kitka Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:08 AM
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11. One idea
Stop watching. If enough people stop watching and purchasing their product, they will have to revamp it to make us want to be media consumers again.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:13 AM
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12. Don't just stop watching - tell all of them WHY you don't watch anymore
Tell tham that for news you now rely on the Net - heaven knows I do - and not their websites, either.

Tell them that when you're hungry for real news, unbiased analysis or even simple, honest reporting, a steaming platter of Kobe/Laci/Jacko as a time-filling time-wasting substitution is NOT going to do the job.

Tell them they suck, and why, and why you won't be going back.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:57 AM
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23. An addition to your excellent advice.....
Let 'em know how unpatriotic is it to ignore lies and fabrications of a US administration, in the name of profits. Let 'em know that *we* know that the press has an obligation to investigate and present the US populace with the truth about what is being done in their names, and what is being done to the *nation*.

Kanary
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:39 AM
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16. remember when Dean made the comment on Hardball to breakup
the media conglomerates...I guess they did not like that.

TPTB need the media to limit our viewing of truths and keep us ignorant.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:44 AM
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18. I remember
Then the media replayed the Dean scream over and over to kill his candidacy (though to be fair to Kerry he won Iowa without their help).

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:50 AM
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20. I hope "epochal event," I believe "last gasp" is what will happen
I have just read too much history and have seen too much support for Tyranny or just apathetic helplessness in it's face, from the Imperial Subjects of Amerika to think otherwise.

But I continue to hold out vain hope.
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