F911 released on the internet.

[DoNotRefill]

http://www.lionsgatefilms.com

The website's slammed. I was on the website a minute ago, and there was a link to download the film. Looks like Moore may have decided to get around the "R" rating anyhow. It'll probably cost him some bucks, but it'll get the film out to EVERYBODY.

Considering Moore's approval for people to download the movie (I saw him say so during one of the interviews) this will be HUGE!!!!!

[osaMABUSh]

1. What do you mean "released"? No way. Already?

[w13rd0]

3. Released for download...

...they've recouped the costs of production, and now they are just getting it out there...perhaps. I know it's hitting the P2P networks, and the sample I saw made it obvious it was a "professional" release.

[DoNotRefill]

4. I was on IRC and heard about it....

went to the lionsgate film site, and there was a link that said it was to download the new Michael Moore film Farenheit 9/11. No kidding.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Hmm should download and burn on CD

For my brother in law, who cannot go see it, 18 month
old at home

[Room101]

5. You downloaded the movie?

The website won't load (I have cable modem)I don't think they would allow people to download the movie from their website.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. I will try in the next few days

If I can I know he will apreciate it

[drdigi420]

6. site too slammed to get it

[Stephanie]

7. That can't be true

Are you sure it's not just the trailer? Highly unlikely they would have a downloadable release of the number one hit movie on its opening weekend. The site is not loading for me so I don't know.

[ALago1]

8. If this is true...

...those with high speed connections should download it and burn as many copies as they can.

Afterwards, just give it to anyone you think may be interested. Great organizing tool!

[fryguy]

9. is this, in the long run, a good thing?

consider this, if the movie is now available online theathers might beging scrapping plans to screen it. and considering the problems with the site crashing from so many hits, coupled with the fact that much of america doesn't have access to highspeed connections to make downloading even feasible, could this actually work to limit the number of people who might see the movie?

just a thought.....

[DoNotRefill]

15. the fact that much of America can't download it....

should mean that it still does well in theaters.

[AP]

10. Fake site? Virus?

[DoNotRefill]

13. I searched google for it.....

found the lions gate film site, clicked the link, and it came up. the site was stripped down, and there was no Hacker message like I'd expect if it got hacked. Besides, why would they have the film available for a hacker to get ahold of off the website?

[osaMABUSh]

11. Which P2Ps have it already? Shit - I'd rather it stay in theaters

only for a while.

[Trajan]

14. As an artist who respects the work of artists ..

And even though I personally want ALL to see this: I cannot download this movie ...

I will pay for tickets, and see it in a theater ...

Its WORTH it .... cmon ...

[DoNotRefill]

16. Trajan....

I saw Moore give an interview where they talked about downloading the movie, and he said that he didn't object, that getting the message out was more important to him than the money. This makes it sound like he's putting his money where his mouth is. Given his statement about wanting to bring down Bush at any cost, it all seems to fit together nicely....

[Trajan]

19. Hmmmmm ...

Id have to read that myself ....

Wouldnt the Weinsteins have a say in this ? ...

Really: I object to downloads without absolute permission to do so: I appreciate what Moore does, and Im willing to pay to get that product ...

[StaggerLee]

17. I will still see it at the theater

I want some of my money to go to the folks who made this piece of work possible.

I wouldn't mind dl'ing a copy for my permanent files. Damn straight.

[no name no slogan]

124. I'm an artist, too, and I don't object

I've released CDs and have had songs published. I see nothing wrong with downloading this film off the internet. It sounds like Moore has already made back his costs, and isn't that interested in making an obscene profit off of it, so why not?

However, as far as the experience, you should really go see it in a cinema. Seeing it on a big screen, in the company of 100+ other like-minded citizens, is well worth it. It's not very often you see a standing ovation for a MOVIE, after all....:)

[osaMABUSh]

18. http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/

It says: Download the new Michael Moore movie Fahrenheit 911!

which points to http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/f911

[anti_shrub]

20. Must be a response to the freeps

Who say Moore profits off tragedy.

[Fescue4u]

21. Kudos to Moore

There's been a couple of things bugging me about f.911.

1) Moores penchant for creative editing
2) Profiting off the 9/11 dead.

But wow. If this is true, I am overly impressed and I take back my reservations.

[BigDaddyLove]

25. Profiting off of the 9/11 dead?..........

How so?

[Fescue4u]

29. I said I take it back

Its just been something thats bothered me but I hadnt voiced it.

Giving away the movie makes me feel bad for even thinking it now.

Moores an ok guy.

[BigDaddyLove]

34. You should in no way feel bad........

for simply having a thought.

I was just wondering what you meant by it.

[AP]

65. Profitting off the dead is what Cheney, CNN, NBC, ABC have been doing.

Moore is trying to end that, and they only way you can get a lot of attention in the US is if you make money for somebody, and Moore's making money for a couple medium-large entertainment companies.

[Fescue4u]

97. Indeed (nt)

[Deja Q]

115. If Moore donates the revenue to good causes then I'd overlook #2

As for #1, I hope he downplays any such 'creativity'. It only tarnishes his credibility.

[Cha]

129. Disney and Miramax have already stated

that they will give their proceeds to charity.

And Moore always puts his profits back into making documentaries for us.

[tkmorris]

22. That's a hack.

It's just got to be. Even assuming Lion Gate Films and Moore would release it to download this soon, there is NO way they do it with a simple link on a plain white page. I mean, come on. FWIW I would bet that the download link leads nowhere at all. It sure won't load anything for me.

[Endangered Specie]

55. Actuall, If I were them... id kill the graphics and use just plain text...

since they figure to devote all bandwidth to transfers.

[CaptainClark23]

23. Hol-ee sht

If this is for real, our boots on the ground will be watching f9-11 on personal dvd players within hours.

on edit: self-censorship

[Rosco T.]

26. If it's a hack, it's a DAMN good one... DIRECT LINKS IN HERE

I could see them stripping all the flash, java, and unncessary graphics from the site for this...

if you have a Download Manager, here's the direct links..

http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/f911/Fahrenheit911-CD1.mpg

http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/f911/Fahrenheit911-CD2.mpg

[Room101]

43. I'm downloading cd2 525mb file ...

It’s stuck at 13mb transfer rate. Their must be tons of people downloading the file because I have a cable modem that gets about 350-400mb.

[Fescue4u]

24. I've got a 10meg Internet pipe

(courtesy of my employer because I work at home)..

But I cant get anything from the website.

[Longhorn]

27. Me, either! n/t

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

30. I suspect that right now...

Even with multiple OC pipes and half the servers in the US, they couldn't keep up with the hits.

This is some serious viral marketing he is doing. Transformative, regarding movies and the Internet.

[Rosco T.]

31. moore than that...

"This is some serious viral marketing he is doing. Transformative, regarding movies and the Internet."

This is bloody brilliant....

[Fescue4u]

39. I've got a download started now..

But its only pulling down 12k/second

It should be finished by Novemeber :)

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

46. Ditto.

Just started. Here I am with 1.5 Mb/s DSL and I am DL'ing at the speed of a 28K modem.

The more things change...

[Room101]

28. <<<<ALERT>>>>> It must be a trap <<<<Virus>>>>>

There is a link that says download F911 but that's the only thing on the web site. This is highly suspicious. I suspect the website has been hacked.

RUN VIRUS SCAN!

[Bluebear]

33. Isn't there a big IE vulnerability that they haven't patched yet?

There is some new worm which is a credit card/personal info harvester out there. I wouldn't be clicking anything until I heard more (Moore!?) confirmation of this!

[Endangered Specie]

76. Use Mozilla.

[mourningdove92]

116. I do use Mozilla

but I am having problems downloading a plugin. It keeps asking me where I want to save it? Help?

[osaMABUSh]

32. ???

Fahrenheit911-CD1.mpg
Fahrenheit911-CD2.mpg
appear in the Directory

and I get a File Download box but it always errors out.

I'm not sure if I want it to be available for downloading...

[Rosco T.]

35. The server is being SLAMMED...

.. I've got in in a download manager to keep retrying..

[ALago1]

37. This causes me to doubt it's a hack

Word of mouth must have spread quickly causing the server to jam (my theory at least) and I don't think people would inform others if they hadn't had success.

[osaMABUSh]

36. I'm running Virus Scan and staying off that site - good night!

[DoNotRefill]

38. HOLY CRAP!!!! IT'S PLAYING!!!!!

EOM

[Endangered Specie]

is the link working for you???

[Fescue4u]

42. Its working for me

Im downloading it.

But like I said, it'll be november before it finishes

[Room101]

45. It was playing for me then I lost the connection - nt

.

[Fescue4u]

50. same here.

Just terminated about 30 secs ago.

weird.

[DoNotRefill]

51. It's DLing slowly.....

I've got less than 10 minutes so far, but it IS indeed dling!!!!

[VolcanoJen]

53. Link working for me now... "Download Fahrenheit 9/11!"

Very bare-bones site... all I get after clicking on

www.lionsgatefilms.com

is a "Download Fahrenheit 9/11" link. I've got it going now... two large .mp3 files.

Amazing.

[Rosco T.]

40. QUALITY! QUALITY! How does it look?!?! n/m

[DoNotRefill]

48. it looks decent...

NOT somebody videotaping in a theater....pro quality.

[Bluebear]

41. No kidding, did you scan it for bugs first, just curious?

[VolcanoJen]

44. Shaddup!! This is for real?

OMG... what an absolute publicity coup.

Please tell us more... is this the entire film, or just a series of excerpts??

[Rosco T.]

49. File Information...

two files

Fahrenheit911-CD1.mpg

Fahrenheit911-CD1.mpg

each one is 535 meg each..

looks like a pair of VCD files to me

right now they are d/l'ing at 15k/s... looks like about 10 hours for me...

[Endangered Specie]

52. Its 2 538 MB files... and at the rate Im getting...

I wont know whats in them until the afternoon... Im gonna scan them first, just in case.

[DoNotRefill]

56. It looks like the entire film.

I've got both the first and second CD DLing, and the first CD starts off with the standard lion's gate logo thing. This does look like the real thing.

BTW, the 2nd CD starts off talking about the building escape suit thingie. Split screen, guy on the left in NY, wearing suit and tie, guy on the right in three rivers, wearing a brown v-neck sweater, oxford, and tie.

[Endangered Specie]

47. Im getting CD1 and CD2 at about 10-20KB/s each...

Ill scan it before I open it though.

[VolcanoJen]

54. I'm at 12.6 kb and 10.9, respectively.

Yowza!

[Endangered Specie]

57. Slowly but surely I say.

as long as the connections dont die.

[TrogL]

58. Let's set up mirrors

I'll get one going as soon as I've got it downloaded.

[Bluebear]

59. So what is this strategy all about? If this is true it is AMAZING

A-MAZ-ING!

[Endangered Specie]

64. Its a way of saying "Fuck you" to the critics who claim hes in it for...

the $$$$$. Its what Mel Gibson should haved done

[Room101]

60. Everybody cross their electronic fingers that the connection holds

till the morning. I wonder if this is a pirate hack or official.

[Endangered Specie]

61. I might just share it on Shareaza...

I have a 26MB dorm room pipe, and virtually no one here has a computer.

[parasim]

62. sorry

I might be paranoid (probably), but I wouldn't touch that download with a 10 foot poll.

I went to Lionsgate's site through the cache in Google and refreshed to make sure the index.html was legit and there is no mention of them providing the movie for download.

http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/index_flash.html

Methinks it's hacked.

[Endangered Specie]

68. Im gonna scan it avec Symantec before I play it...

but mpg files dont usually have viruses in them.

SOme other DUers have played the partial downloads (mpg can be played partially dloaded) and have seen what appears to be the start (CD1) and mid way (CD2) of the movie, in VCD quality.

[parasim]

77. maybe not a virus

perhaps just a bootleg hack, but i'm still not interested. I have yet to see the film and would rather not risk ruining it for me by watching some camcorder to mpeg that who knows, might be hacked in the video itself. you know, after a half hour or so it shows some f'd up snuff film edited in or something.

(i told you i was paranoid)

[Endangered Specie]

78. If its camcorder... I'll delete it, but I think a DUer...

watched a partial and said it was decent quality...

whats wrong with being paranoid?

[parasim]

84. oh, nothing at all

wrong with being paranoid as far as i'm concerned. that's why i trust very little on the internet and nothing if it is in the least bit suspicious. as this is to me.

i will wait until i see it in the theatre and then perhaps download a bootleg at some point just because i can be selfish like that.

i'll try to talk myself into waiting for the DVD to obtain a personal copy of the film. i hope i succeed in doing so.

[BigMcLargehuge]

63. Hmmm... well it made back the 8 mil it cost to make it yesterday

I am downloading it now


on edit -

checked MM's site and didn't see anything about downloading, so I stopped the download.

[jackstraw45]

66. POOR video quality...I'm guessing a HACK folks....

It's definitely the movie. But the picture quality is that of a BOOTLEG.

Plus, the Lionsgate site is GONE.

Something smells.

[w13rd0]

80. I've always been of the mind...

...that "free downloads" should always be less than top notch quality, giving an incentive to buy/attend the theatre. Might be the case here. I know there's a "cam" floating the P2Ps...interesting...

[Endangered Specie]

82. A 1000MB mpg file can only be of certain quality...

as a downloading nerd... that wont come close to tape quality... much less a DVD or a theatre.

[w13rd0]

87. Exactly...

...you know what I'm talking about ;)

A full DVD rip will run about 5Gb, and even then, it loses some quality.

[Mr. Blonde]

67. Going to bed with the

download in progress. Hopefully my computer still works in the morning, wait who am I kidding late afternoon.

[Must_B_Free]

69. Wow - He's giving it away!

I guess they want people to see this.

[NightOwwl]

70. IMO, this is a freeper hack

1) Where is the Lions Gate main page? No professional company would take down their home page. They would link to another page for the download.

2) Lions Gate Awards page points to the download also. This leads me to believe the entire site has been hacked.

3) MM wants to release the DVD in September. Why have it available online now?

4) Too convenient. If this really is the movie, it was obtained illegally. Freepers want you to download so it won't make money at the box office.

There is something fishy about all this.

[Bluebear]

71. Freepers don't want Moore to make $$$ off this

Just guessing.

[jackstraw45]

72. AGREED...STOP AND THINK PEOPLE!

Let's all take a deep breath.

This is a freeper hack.

NO question.

[Forkboy]

74. I doubt it's a conspiracy by freepers

any film can be gotten this way if one so desires.

[Endangered Specie]

75. Since when did freepers have the intellect...

to change a company website? If its a hack its probably not a frepper minded person, more likely the opposite.

[DoNotRefill]

81. by releasing it now....

Moore will reap an absolute WHIRLWIND of free publicity, and get it out to literally tens of millions of people virtually overnight.

Remember the Paris Hilton sextape? I've heard that over 100 MILLION people saw at least part of it.

If Moore did this, he's a fucking GENIUS. It'll be front page news, WORLD WIDE. There's NOTHING Moore could do to cause this film to have a bigger impact. The folks who wouldn't pay to see it still get exposed to it. The folks who WILL pay to see it can still go to the theaters. And this way, Moore can control it, instead of having crappy videorecorder copies floating around out there.

There are a couple of possibilities here. Either Moore made this film for commercial gain, or he REALLY hates Bush and will do ANYTHING to bring him down. From what I've seen of Moore, he hates Bush enough to do this. And it WILL fuck Bush over, far more than just having it in the theaters will. This is HUGE.

[Endangered Specie]

73. Im no internet expert... but this doesnt really seem like a hack...

If your a hacker why target F911, specifically, the liongate website? We will find out soon enough whats going on.

[SideshowScott]

79. If its a Hack: I find it Ironic the Pro Cooperation Rethuggies would do it

I mean how often have you seen how the Right wingers kiss the Coorperations ass's. Im sure they would hate it if you downloaded the passoin! They are really going all out make sure that people dont pay to see this film but doing this more people will see it..What a bunch of hypocrates!

[Rosco T.]

83. HOLD IT PEEPS!!! It's a CAM JOB!!!!

just got to look at the 1st 5 minutes and it's a CAM JOB!!

it's also not 16:9 widescreen, it's cropped...

poor video encoding, a lot of pixelation...

bad contrast...

I SMELL BOOTLEG!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Endangered Specie]

85. you absolutely sure?

image shake? audience noises?

If so... well shit.

[Rosco T.]

88. looks boot to me....

- very poor contrast
- the picture is cropped to fit a screen
- it's shot at an angle
- audio is muddy, but may have been pulled from a sound board
- very very poor encoding, lots of pixelation and image distortion

Smells like boot to me....

[Endangered Specie]

89. what do you use to view partial Mpgs?

[Rosco T.]

91. I'm using a download manager...

and when it disconnects and restarts, it leaves a partial file behind before it starts up again.. I copied the partial over to anothe drive and fired it up...

there's also a 'timecode' showing in top of the frame, I believe this is used to identify which print it came from (and by that which theater).

[jackstraw45]

99. Mac Quicktime opens partial...

That's what I did.

It's OBVIOUSLY a hack meant to undermine Box office.

I suggest folks cancel their downloads until it's sorted out.

[Forkboy]

86. That's just like 99% of all films gotten this way

:)

[complain jane]

90. I wouldn't put it past the FReepers

to do something like this, of course they would. Throw a crappy bootleg copy up and hack the site so everyone can download free. That way they can say the movie had a low turnout at the box office and so less new theaters will want to pick it up.

I was just at the site and it looks like it always did so I guess if it was a hack it's been fixed.

FReepers are such useless, dishonest, hypocritical scum. Sorry to be so blunt. I saw F9/11 last night and I guess I'm feeling some leftover disgust.

[DoNotRefill]

93. I don't know....

the quality of what I'm getting is comparable to video clips I've pulled off the Internet from legitimate news sites, etc. I also got some downloads from the Shrek II website (screensavers, etc) and it's comparable to those, too, as far as clarity, etc.

I am not sure if it's a matter of the format or if it's low quality.

Think about it. By releasing it in this format, with relative poor quality, Moore would preserve future DVD sales, and people going to the movies to see it in highest quality.

If this WAS a bootleg, I'd imagine that the site would have already been yanked down by Lions Gate. After all, it's drawing HUGE amounts of bandwidth, and it doesn't take a computer genius to yank the server power supply.

I don't know what's going on, but this could legitimately be the real thing. Time will tell.

[Endangered Specie]

96. You think they have staff there at 2am saturday?

could be, im sure that they have decent server security and this type of hacking might engage a self-destruct or shutoff if you will.

[DoNotRefill]

98. I don't know about hollywood studios....

but the local (very small) PBS station has their geeks there 24/7. Their annual budget is a tiny fraction of what this film took in on it's first day. If they can do it, I'd be SHOCKED if the studio didn't.

[NightOwwl]

92. If may not be freepers...

but it is still a hack.

I don't care if it was a du'er who put the movie out there. It's an illegal copy and it's eating into the profits of Moore and the distributors.

Just pay the 10 bucks and see it in the theater.

[complain jane]

94. I think

that even if it was Moore himself who put it there we should still support him and pay the ten bucks. I did, and I'm going again.

[Rosco T.]

95. Agreeded... I call SHENANIGANS!

ob. South Park reference

[skooooo]

118. everyone get your brooms out!

[Endangered Specie]

100. It is cropped, its not widescreen, quality is much less than VCD...

and the sound is like 56k streaming audio.

[VolcanoJen]

101. "Sorry, access to this folder is forbidden."

That's what I get when I click on www.lionsgatefilms.com right now...

[jackstraw45]

102. Because, as many of us suspected, it was a HACK

Show's over...please don't spread the film illegally folks.

It's worth the 10 bucks....

[Rosco T.]

103. The 'real' Lion Gate site is back now n/m

[psychopomp]

104. Was a HAcK...Homepage back up now

You can view the trailer there, if you'd like.

I can't wait to buy the DVD!

[DoNotRefill]

105. This is WEIRD....

OK, clicked on the link to see what was going on. Now it automatically shuts the browser down!!!

Anybody else having the same thing happen?

[Fescue4u]

106. dunno..

My download is still going. Im at 30% right now.

But when I visit the page to view it streaming I get a "forbidden" message.

I do think its a hack now, but Im going to download it anyway since its going to be a week or two before I can make it to the theatre and Im impatient.

Im looking forward to watching it on my flight to the west coast tomorrow.

[AP]

113. Virus. Feel silly now.

[left is right]

107. Saw it once--hope to see it twice, but

I will pay to view it in a theater if I am fortunate enough to go again. When it is officially released on DVD, I will buy it. I want MM and Lionsgate to make money on this. Making money, in this case, is one of the natural rewards for exposing evil to the light. Without it making money the next truth teller has less incintives to do so.

[TexasProgresive]

110. Not only a reward but

will help finance the next Mikey blockbuster. BTW I've heard some high prices for movies. My Dad and I saw F-9/11 for a total of 10 bucks yesterday. It was an early matinee but the screening room was about 80 percent full. I may see it again at the theater and will certainly by the DVD. I need to replace my copy of Bowling for Columbine as I gave it away.

Someone up above said that the 8 million in sales paid back the cost but it's going to take more then that. Production cost plus distro is 16+ million and the ticket says don't show how much is actually going back to Lion's Gate and how much is being thrown off as profit to the venues.My guess is that a gross of 32 million will break even.
Multiple viewing is definately a good thing to do if you can afford it.

[bushneedstogo2]

108. This is huge

[LTR]

109. This kind of thing has happened before

I remembr the RIAA's site being hacked and hosting the (at the time) unreleased Linkin Park CD on it, as a kind of 'goodwill measure' for P2P users. Got some good laughs on the file sharing message boards.

Likely, it was a prank.

But I'm sure if you want your own copy, you can find it.

[Junkdrawer]

111. I may have seen the guy who videoed this yesterday....

I saw a guy in a Bush/Cheney tee shirt in the lobby with a camcorder

he was taking a video of the ATM machine.

Later, I turned him into the manager who was VERY interested....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1866773&mesg_id=1866791

[AP]

112. I hate to say it, but _______ would be a suspect too.

Obvioulsy the person who did this wanted people to know, and DU would be a great place to publicize the fact, and it's just too much of a coincicdence that it just happened to be googled tonight.

[Junkdrawer]

114. According to post #4, ________ saw it on IRC...

which would be the logical place to publicize such a thing. :shrug:

[AP]

117. And then in 105 admitted it fucked up browser,

So maybe you're right.

But then again, was it no longer available at that point? So why not cover your tracks and act like a victim?

And you'd think that SOME insider would come over to cheerlead for dowloading it.

[DoNotRefill]

119. The thing is....

that I'm positive the channel I was on has a permanent log somewhere, so I can document how I found out about it if necessary. I had nothing to do with hacking the site. Hell, I have trouble using Mozilla.

/not exactly tech saavy

[AP]

120. You said the quality was great...

...but when others downloaded it they said it was obviously bootlegged from the theater.

You really were cheerleading for people to get it and eager to rebut any attempt to question the source.

Even if you did produce a log of the IRC, how could you prove you weren't the one spreading the rumor on the channel?

[DoNotRefill]

121. I don't exactly have a whole lot of experience....

downloading bootlegs OR commercial dvd rips.

Most of the bootlegs I've seen have visible shakes, crowd noises, Japanese subtitles, et cetera. And if you look at the descriptions of what I saw, you'll see that it was of stuff that had been broadcast on the news, copied, and put on film. (the interview with the building parachute guy). You'll also need to reread my post, which did NOT say the quality was great, it said the quality was "decent". There's a substantial difference between "decent" and "great".

Frankly, I don't have to defend myself to you. IF I did have to defend myself, it would be to the police types, who would be able to access records which, based upon things like IP addresses, would make it obvious that I was NOT the person who informed me about this. Additionally, I'm sure that LE is looking at the penetration at Lion's Gate, which could NOT lead back to me, since I didn't have anything to do with it.

I'll ask you this once. Are you accusing me of having ANYTHING to do with the hacking of that website? Please answer carefully.

[AP]

122. Not so much accusing as I'm saying that logic would dictate that you'd

be the first suspect -- not so much as the hacker, but in being sort of complicit with the plot to make the movie availiable to people who would otherwise go to the movie, thereby undermining its profitability. I just think that's stating the obvious.

If you look at what's going on here, this almost was definitely done by people who are fans. More likely it was done to hurt Moore. Normally people would want to keep file sharing secret so they can get more stuff for free. But this was publicized, and it was publicized at DU. So you have to follow the path backwards and it runs through you.

Of course, maybe this was done by fans, and there's nothing nefarious at all and you're totally innocent.

Who knows.

[DoNotRefill]

123. If you read the entirety of my posts in this thread...

you'll notice that I'm saying what a great guy/genius Moore is for releasing it, over and over and over again.

Given Moore's televised comments about the downloading of this movie (that he didn't object to it) and his desire to remove Bush at any cost, my interpretation of the events seems to have been the most logical at the time.

Are you accusing me to being an accessory to a criminal act?

[AP]

125. What criminal act? Do you think it was a criminal act?

You had convinced me that Lions Gate put that up there for free.

Do you think it was a criminal act now?

I'm just talking about hypotheticals. I don't know you. The internet is totally anonymous. You don't really have that much of an indentiy to me from which to draw conclusions. All I'm saying is if this were a mystery novel, and if a whole lot of conditions were in place, you'd be the character who might turn out in the third act to have been on the inside, rather than the outside.

But don't confuse that with accusing you of anything. I'm not sure we know enough about what happened. And if we read your posts, nothing criminal happened at all. Lions Gate made this film available to the public because they recouped their costs and now want it to get as broadly released as possible.

I'm willing to believe that that is a likely as anythign else that I could come up with in my amature mystery-novelist's imagination.

[DoNotRefill]

126. I'm curious....

have you found any official press release or something along those lines saying that they were, in fact, hacked?

I've been googling, looking for some kind of statement about it, and haven't found anything on it yet, either a claim that it was intentionally released by Lion's Gate, or that Lion's Gate had been hacked.

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[mdmc]

128. well

i'll be.

[rocktivity]

130. Mission accomplished?

Maybe the purpose of this hack was to get it distributed on the Web to cut down on attendance. If you were successful in downloading it, hold on to it until November!

:headbang:
rocknation

[DoNotRefill]

131. I don't think anybody was....

It was downloading very slowly.

Personally, I got less than 10 minutes of it, including credits, and was the first one here to know about it. And I've got a very good connection...