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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:00 PM
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Farenheit 9/11 in Chapel Hill NC
I went with a group of about 24 others to the small movie theatre on Franklin Street. It seats a little more than 300. The bathrooms are upstairs. I got there around 6:30 and found the young woman, a member of Orange County Dems, who had offered to buy advance tickets for us. I was nervous, not knowing what I'd see. I was also a bit put out that I hadn't brought an umbrella; it was a sprinkle just heavy enough to make me want an umbrella, I was wishing they'd open up the doors. 6:30 and already the line was a block long, from the theatre down to the Bank of America. The handwritten sign on the ticket window read 7:pm showing "Sold Out" as was the 2:00pm and 4:30 pm showings before that.

Finally they let us in. I found a seat down front and the movie started. Ugh. Reliving the election debacle. I felt my stomach churn almost immediately. Such a waste of democracy that was. One of the new pieces of information for me was watching member after member of the congressional black caucus get up and contest the electors. Not having cable and therefore C-SPAN, I didn't know they had done that. What a brave group they were. They actually made me proud. All that would have been required is if ONE SENATOR had signed on to any one of their petitions. No one did. NOT ONE SENATOR sponsored a petition. A sickening display of now not to run a democracy. And we want to tell Afghanistan and Iraq how to be democratic republics? Please God, not like us.

And poor Al Gore! Having to repeatedly remind his colleagues that without Senate sponsorship of their petitions, it was a no go. Al Gore not only lost the election, he had to preside over his own defeat, not once or twice or even three times! More like seven or eight times petitions were refused. Damn, that man deserves some kind of medal for sainthood.

The movie was by turns hilarious and chilling, maddening and frightening -- sometimes all at once. The now famous seven minutes of Bush reading in that elementary school comes to mind. What do you do when the leader of your own nation doesn't know what to do? You pick up a camera, that's what you do.

Moore has a wicked sense of humor which he displays effectively here. While comparing Bush's National Guard papers released in 2000 and 2004 and highlighting the part where Bush and his buddy James Bathe had been kicked out for failing to appear for their annual physicals, the opening salvos of Clapton's "Cocaine" play in the background. There wasn't a person in the Chapel Hill audience who didn't get the joke.

The transition of Lila Lipscomb from flag-waving "conservative Democrat" to grieving mother lashing out at the White House seared my soul. I found it almost as hard to watch her read her son's last letter home as she did to read it. The one touching note that I wish I knew more about was when Lila comes across an elderly Iraqi woman camped out in Lafayette Park. Now, there are two types of people who inhabit Lafayette Park: the homeless and the protesters. This woman appeared to be both. She has a big anti war display, and after some fumbling for words, they both discovered their sons were gone. Suddenly language and ethnicity didn't matter. They were simply two grieving mothers.

The frailty of the human body never ceases to amaze me. We have infinite ways to kill and maim the young and the old. Did I tell you I spent this afternoon dancing around with my two year old niece? Around and around in circles we went, laughing ourselves dizzy on the brand new hardwood floor of the brand new house in the immaculate, luxury subdivision she will live in starting next week. So many babies in Farenheit 9/11 will be dancing no more, laughing no more. Their families arms will be empty where they should be filled with hugs. What right had we to take away their own dizzy circles? Then, just when we think the fighting is over, charred bodies are strung up from utility poles. Ignominious as it was, at least their deaths were acknowledged. We can't even bring ourselves to look at tastefully flag-draped coffins coming in to Dover. We want the war, but not the messiness. We want the victory, but not to know the cost.

I almost wish, for her sake, Lila Lipscomb would have been allowed to keep her naivete. But we cannot. We cannot keep the naive world view that says we are always right, and true, and good. None of those descriptors fits the situation in Iraq or Afghanistan. In fact, those words rarely describe our foreign policy. If this film brings about a good debate in this country about our real exercises of power around the world, Farenheit 9/11 will have served its purpose. And the people who died on September 11, 2001 will not have died in vain.

I got up from my seat, heading for the exit. The group that I came with was heading to a bar down the street. Perhaps I should have gone with them. But I felt a greater need to get my thoughts out on paper. I opened the door to the alley and headed into the warm summer rain.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:04 PM
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1. beautifully written and very moving
thanks
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:04 PM
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2. You are quite eloquent.
A writer by trade? If not, you should consider it.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:11 PM
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4. Thank you
for saying that. "Aspiring" is probably the most apt word.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:10 PM
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3. That woman camped out
in front of the White House has been there for years. Many years. It's hard to know if she's a bit of a nutcase or simply someone so completely committed to peace that she's willing to live on the street and be thought of as insane to try to make the world a better place.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:12 PM
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A bit of both
That's okay with me. She knows what she wants, and that's all that matters.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:12 PM
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6. I saw a lot of those folks when I worked downtown DC
The Park Police treat them like nutcases. But with a discussion like this, it's hard to know who's really the sane one.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:12 PM
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5. deleted
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 11:51 PM by LiviaOlivia
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:13 PM
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8. That is a software site
Why did you post that?
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:17 PM
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10. Probably meant IMDB, not IMBD
Typos are a weapon of mass distraction!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:17 PM
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11. She means IMDB.com
The internet movie database. Thanks for the compliment LiviaOlivia.

I'm always leery of posting over there. There are some real nutcases in those forums.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:29 PM
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12. deleted
Edited on Fri Jun-25-04 11:48 PM by LiviaOlivia
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:30 PM
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13. No problemo.
:hi:
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:13 PM
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7. I was there for the 4:30 showing
:hi:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:16 PM
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9. D'oh, sorry I missed you.
:hi:

What did you think?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:42 PM
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14. Shamless self-promotional kick
:kick:

No of course there aren't too many F9/11 threads. :silly:
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:06 AM
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19. There can't be too many. n/t
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 07:24 AM
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15. AM kick
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 07:24 AM by supernova
:kick:

I really would like some feedback on my writing.
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omshanti Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 08:53 AM
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16. Supernova - thanks! I feel vindicated
A (clueless, apolitical) friend of mine went to see the 9:15 showing in Chapel Hill last night and I warned her to get there early because it would be sold out. Her response was "I don't think so, and my friends don't think so either".

Mind you, she is very naive about politics and probably underestimated the impact the film will have(hasn't lived in this country long) but as good as shouted me down when I told her it would be sold out. Sorry if it's shallow to feel vindicated, but I do! :-)

P.S. we really gotta meet some time - PM me.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 08:56 AM
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17. Was she able to get in?
It was just as crowded at 9:15 as it had been for the 7pm showing. And far as I know, it's the same today.
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omshanti Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:02 AM
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18. Don't know - I'll call her and post.
Serves her right for pooh-poohing me ;-)

By the way, I didn't read your review in detail after the first paragraph because I'm trying to wait until after I see the movie to read detailed reviews, and I've bookmarked your thread to come back and read later.
Thanks for posting your thoughts. :-)
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omshanti Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 10:30 AM
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22. Update - 9:15 showing was sold out
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 10:32 AM by omshanti
My friend says she got there at 7:30 and the 9:15 show was already sold out.
(edited for typo)
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:21 PM
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24. I hope she gets to go
this weekend. Advanced tickets are a necessity everywhere.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:16 AM
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20. Wonderfully said
I saw the movie yesterday and may go back today with my notebook.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 09:21 AM
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21. Oh, supernova!! What a gorgeous post.
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 09:21 AM by VolcanoJen
Thanks for skipping the cocktails and sharing your thoughts with us, instead.

Here's a beer for ya!!

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:19 PM
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23. kick
because I'm in attention whore mode.
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:24 PM
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25. kick
Thanks for the wonderful post!! :toast:
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