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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:26 PM
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My Fahrenheit 9/11 review (rough)
Edited on Thu Jun-24-04 11:26 PM by WilliamPitt
Be warned: There be spoilers here.

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“The light at the end of the tunnel could be the bulb in a film projector.”

- Jeanette Castillo

Screens in Bartlett, Chattanooga, Jackson, Knoxville and Memphis, Tennessee will be showing it. Screens in Layton and West Jordan, Utah will be showing it. If you find yourself in Leawood, Meriam, Shawnee or Witchita, Kansas, you can see it. The same goes for Centerville, Fairfax and Abington, Virginia. If you happen to be in Akron, Bexley, Dublin or Elyria, Ohio, you’re all set. Hoover, Montgomery and Mobile, Alabama will not be left out.

Laramie, Wyoming? It’s there. Bozeman, Montana? Indeed. Should you call home Grand Island, Lincoln or Omaha, Nebraska, you have not been forgotten. The largest mall in the country, the Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota, will have it in its theater. If you are a soldier at Camp Lejune or Fort Bragg, about to be shipped to Iraq, you can see it in nearby Fayetteville, North Carolina.

These towns, large and small, along with towns large and small from sea to shining sea and straight through the American heartland, will begin screening Michael Moore’s documentary, ‘Fahrenheit 9/11,’ beginning at 12:01a.m. Friday morning, the 25th of June, 2004. For the majority of people who will see this movie, in those towns large and small, the experience will be nothing short of a mind-bomb.

The Who once sang about how the hypnotized never lie, but as we have seen, people hypnotized by television and deliberately enforced fear can certainly support a war, and a President, which are fundamentally at odds with basic American decency. In fact, people hypnotized by television and deliberately enforced fear will feed themselves into the meat grinder with “God Bless America” on their lips.

Michael Moore’s film will snap that hypnosis, but good. Those Americans who believed what their President told them because they saw it on the TV will, after less than two hours in their local theater, look at both their television and their President with doubt and loathing when they walk from the darkness into the bright light of day. There are millions of Americans who believed what they were told - about 9/11, about Iraq, about George W. Bush himself - who come into that bright light with the realization that they have been lied to.

Speaking personally, none of the data in this film surprised me. Having spent every day of the last three years working to expose as many Americans as possible to the truth of the man they call President, Mr. Moore was unlikely to explode any shells across my bow. The connections between Bush, the Saudis, the Carlyle Group and the 9/11 attacks were there. The connections between Cheney and Halliburton were there. The connections between Enron, Unocal, natural gas pipelines, the war in Afghanistan and a little-known country called Turkmenistan were there. I enjoyed the fact that Moore showed off unredacted copies of Bush’s military service record, allowing us to see the parts of those documents which had been blacked out. I found no fact, no assertion in this film to question or doubt. I have done my homework, and as was made painfully clear, Michael Moore did his.

Most Americans don’t know about this stuff, and seeing it fully documented and meticulously researched on the big screen will be, to say the least, revelatory. Yes, Virginia, there are billions of dollars to be made off this Iraq war for Bush’s friends. The second door on the left is the recruiting office. Sign on the line that is dotted, and be the first kid on your block to die for the benefit of Carlyle’s stock options. Be sure to save your pennies beforehand, however, because the Army will dock your pay for the days you are dead. It’s policy, you see.

Mr. Moore put two daggers into me with this film, the first of which had to do with American soldiers. Trooper after trooper spoke frankly for Moore’s camera, condemning both the war and the people who thrust them into it. Several scenes graphically explained what happens to a soldier’s body when it is caught in an explosion. The result is ruinous, and the cries of the wounded and the dying will ring in my ears forever.

The most wrenching scenes in the film center around a woman named Lila, who loves her country, loves her flag, and above all loves her children whom she actively persuaded to join the armed services. We learn that Lila has a son in Iraq, and because of that, she despises those protesting the invasion. We find out later that her son was killed in Karbala on April 2nd, when his Blackhawk helicopter was shot down. We watch her read her son’s last letter home, in which he rages against Bush and the war. We last see Lila standing at the gates of the White House, tears boiling from her eyes, as she discovers her true enemy, the one who took her baby from her.

The other dagger Moore put into me came during his montage of the media coverage of the war. Journalist after journalist is shown rhapsodizing Bush, his administration and the war. Each and every one of them carried forth that which we now know to be bald-faced lies: That Iraq had WMDs, that Iraq was a threat, that we had to go, and that everything is fine. It was a slideshow of the nonsense Americans have been spoon-fed for far too long.

With a single stroke, Michael Moore has undone three years of poor, slanted, biased, factually bereft, compromised television journalism. This, in the end, is the final greatness of ‘Fahrenheit 9/11.’ Not only will Americans get a sense of the depth of the deception they have endured, but ‘journalists’ all across the country will be forced to endure the humiliation they so richly deserve.

I was privileged to see this film in the company of three groups - Military Families Speak Out, September 11 Families for Peaceful Tomorrows and Veterans for Peace - which have stood against this disastrous war from day one. Many in the theater had family in Iraq, or had lost family in Iraq, or had lost family on 9/11 and seen their beloved dead used as an excuse for unwarranted war, and there was not a dry eye in the house.

‘Fahrenheit 9/11’ is not a victory for anyone. We the People should have known better, We the People should have been given the facts before sending 851 of our children to die. We the People have been betrayed, by our leaders and by a media that profited, and profits still, from the daily sale of lies. This film drove that horrid fact home with a mallet, and it hurt.

I was reminded, as I filed out with this company of heroes, of a portion of Shakespeare’s rendition of Henry’s speech before Agincourt:

He that outlives this day and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say, 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say, 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'

Many of us were not hypnotized. Millions of us took to the streets in this country and around the world, to try and stop this madness before it was unleashed. The people in that theater with me had done this, had never stopped doing this, though their President and their media named them traitor. They were right. They were right. They were right.

Michael Moore has unleashed a wolf within Mr. Bush’s fences. There is not getting around it. Perhaps, now that it is far too late, we as a nation will wake up. On the day of that awakening, those of us who never stopped standing, never stopped marching, learned to live without sleep, learned to live in a nation that scorned truth for televised fantasy, those patriots I was with tonight in that theater can pause for breath. We can sit upon the grass on a bright day, strip our sleeves, and show our scars.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:30 PM
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1. You might also mention this fucking outrage
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:33 PM
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2. thank you
We the People have been betrayed, by our leaders and by a media that profited, and profits still, from the daily sale of lies.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:34 PM
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3. BTW, a film projector bulb is explosive
When you throw then off the roof of a theatre, they *pop* like a .22. They'll take a finger off if you touch them when hot, a little mini-explosion. Scary as hell to work on a projector while it's operating -- they give you a big, thick apron, gloves, and a pair of goggles.
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ABB Texan Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:40 PM
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6. Useful information indeed....
....should I ever consider a career change. :)
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 04:25 AM
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48. They are also very expensive,...
does the place where you work dim the bulb to make it burn longer ?
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:36 PM
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4. Thank you
I'm seeing it tomorrow. Beautiful writing.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:36 PM
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5. nice read. i wish the soldiers in iraq could also see it soon.
do you think the military will allow it?
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:41 PM
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7. Thank you, Will.
Just your description of Lila's scene in DC got me choked up.

I am eager to see this film, but MORE eager for others to see it. And hoping they too act on their anger.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:43 PM
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8. Great article.... one typo I found...
'There is 'no' getting around it.' last paragraph.

I'll be going tomorrow, for sure.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:46 PM
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12. Thanks
Good eye. Fixed.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:56 PM
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20. My nephew will be going to Iraq in August...
and I haven't had the heart to suggest he see this movie. He is against this misAdministration, but he is a very proud Marine and goes where he is told. My heart hurts when I think of him going, but I try not to put negative thoughts in his head because his burden is enough right now. I keep hoping that after the hand off things will cool down over there, but really think things will probably get worse. He's a brave and noble man; a man we should all be proud of even as he goes to fight in a war he doesn't believe in - there are so many of them like him. I will go see this movie and do whatever I can to get people to wake up in November. Will, once again, your writing is beautiful and I applaud you.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:01 AM
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40. My stomach turns for your nephew............
I just can't stand the thought of his going. I know he's wonderful and faithful but I worry--like a mother and a patriot.

My grandson, whom I am raising, is 16. I am worried what will become of him when he reaches 18...what shape will the world be in two years from now... I shudder to think.

My very best wishes to you and Nephew............Peace
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 03:35 AM
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46. Then please have him look at this website first
http://www.calltoconscience.net

Its hell for the mothers and fathers. I can tell you that from firsthand experience. Let him know how bad it is for them, and for himself, and for the Iraqi people.
The truth shall set you free.
Canada , hide..or send him overseas.
The website offers alternatives and help.
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:00 AM
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23. hey
I realy like the mis-statement
'there is not getting around it'
I stopped there
and thought about the way that was worded

it may be a mistake
but I stopped and thought

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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:45 PM
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9. Henry V was a war criminal
As I have ranted before, Henry the Fifth was a story about a promising young prince gine horribly wrong. He betrays everyone who got him there, he rejects his basic humanity, he commits war crimes. It is the sour ending on a basically uplifting trilogy. Consult Richard II or Henry IV.1+2 for better material.

One of your better articles, though, seriously. Not only have I cut and pasted it to my conservative friends, now I don't think that wild horses could now drag me away.

Y'know, on second thought, maybe it's a good idea to use a quote that is a little cliched, a quote that is already in the public consciousness, as it lends so much credibility to the rest of the article.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:46 PM
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10. Merriam, Kansas
Edited on Thu Jun-24-04 11:49 PM by REP
And a dreary little suburb it is.

Merriam, Leawood and Shawnee Mission*, Kansas are all Johnson County suburbs jammed right next to eachother and are all minutes away from Kansas City, Missouri.

*yes, there is a Shawnee, but it's really more like a neighborhood in Shawnee Mission.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:48 PM
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15. Fixed
Thanks!
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:52 PM
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18. See My Edit
Edited on Thu Jun-24-04 11:54 PM by REP
Your Kansas City-area readers (I know you have at least one!) will notice that you've only really mentioned two parts of Kansas (Johnson County and Wichita).

I must really love the edit function: Johnson County, KS is regularly listed among the wealthiest and most Republican US counties, and it is a little interesting that so many Johnson County theaters are showing F911...
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:46 PM
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11. Very good!
I loved the last paragragh. I hope that happens for all of us, and especially for the groups that attended with you tonight.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:47 PM
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13. I'm crying from the review alone
Oh boy it's going to be tough to watch .

I'm pretty overwhelmed :cry:
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:47 PM
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14. I think this speech from Henry V is more appropriate
and more in the spirit of the film (as I've heard of it anyway):

Will.But if the cause be not just, the King himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms, and heads, chopp’d off in battle, shall join together at a letter day and cry all “We died at such a place” – some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.I am afeard there are few die well that die in battle; for how can they charitably dispose of any thing, when blood is their argument? Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection. (IV.i.134-145)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:50 PM
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17. Erm
Not to be a dick, but I'm sick of arguing about Henry and Shakespeare. :) Literature calls this one of the most inspiring speeches ever delivered. Henry was a bastard, but Shakespeare rules, so I'm going with what I've got. :)

Thanks for the note, though. You're pretty much right. I'm just not going to change this thing again at 1am.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:00 AM
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22. Well
OK. I'm not trying to bait an argument here. I'm pulling my quote from Henry V as well, so you need not convince me of the talent therein. I'm not sure who this "literature" is (although I suspect it is Harold Bloom)- I think the speech, especially in Shakespeare's time, plays out a central conflict in the nation state that is being reactivated now. It was inspiring to a certain class that valued its side in that conflict, but that's about it. Whatever, though. I don't want to get into it with you over Saint Crispin's day, although I think the speech enacts some pretty sleazy values - especially in the context of the play.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:09 AM
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27. This speech, as the play, is all about the nation state
And one does a great disservice to Will (Shakespeare, not Pitt) to forget that. Henry V was essentially an attempt at a nationalistic, jingoistic, call to "English" pride. (I put "English" in quotes because it wasn't until the latter Renaissance that the English even identified themselves as a nation; Shakespeare went a long way to develop a sense of national pride. Indeed, even the concept of a "nation.")

Your quote, Markses, doesn't get quoted becuse it is not only not in iambic pentameter, but it is also not famous. There is a simple expediency in quoting something that most people will not only recognize, but identify with.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:23 AM
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33. Check your PM
I'm well aware of all that. I don't think I want to hijack this thread with Shakespearean discussion any further. It was a good review. I just have a particular animus against the St. Crispin's Day speech.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:57 PM
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21. Henry has a pretty good reply here, though.
I'm a big fan of "no wings to fly from God."

So, if a son that is by his father sent about
merchandise do sinfully miscarry upon the sea, the
imputation of his wickedness by your rule, should be
imposed upon his father that sent him: or if a
servant, under his master's command transporting a
sum of money, be assailed by robbers and die in
many irreconciled iniquities, you may call the
business of the master the author of the servant's
damnation: but this is not so: the king is not
bound to answer the particular endings of his
soldiers, the father of his son, nor the master of
his servant; for they purpose not their death, when
they purpose their services. Besides, there is no
king, be his cause never so spotless, if it come to
the arbitrement of swords, can try it out with all
unspotted soldiers: some peradventure have on them
the guilt of premeditated and contrived murder;
some, of beguiling virgins with the broken seals of
perjury; some, making the wars their bulwark, that
have before gored the gentle bosom of peace with
pillage and robbery. Now, if these men have
defeated the law and outrun native punishment,
though they can outstrip men, they have no wings to
fly from God: war is his beadle, war is vengeance;
so that here men are punished for before-breach of
the king's laws in now the king's quarrel: where
they feared the death, they have borne life away;
and where they would be safe, they perish: then if
they die unprovided, no more is the king guilty of
their damnation than he was before guilty of those
impieties
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:15 AM
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31. That's a good response?
1) The king didn't want you to die, so you can't blame the king for your death (Will's argument was "If the cause be not just," - so Henry is rhetorically switching between the general and the particular in a way that doesn't answer the question).

2) Some soldiers will be brigands and scofflaws. A complete non-answer, but a set-up for the most devious shirking of responsibility for a false cause: If you die in sin (to die badly), then that's your bad, since you were a law-breaker (and hence a sinner) on your own account. Again, the question of the cause's justness is avoided, though it provides the condition for Will's complaint.

The underlying assumption, of course, is that the cause cannot be unjust, since the sovereign is infallible (remember that Henry is in the disguise of a common soldier at this point); the very notion is lost on Henry, but constitutes the main social drama that leads to the Saint Crispin's Day Speech. Henry's responses here were clearly rhetorically inadequate: that's why he needs to deliver the Saint Crispin's Day speech in the first place. It is also, of course, the case, that the play appears precisely during a time of social upheaval stemming from, among other things, the perpetual wars and prerssgangings of the Privy Council.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:49 PM
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16. It Is Never Too Late
Hope springs eternal.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:54 PM
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19. Bravo Will!
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:15 AM
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30. I second that.
Well done.

"The most wrenching scenes in the film center around a woman named Lila, who loves her country, loves her flag, and above all loves her children whom she actively persuaded to join the armed services. We learn that Lila has a son in Iraq, and because of that, she despises those protesting the invasion. We find out later that her son was killed in Karbala on April 2nd, when his Blackhawk helicopter was shot down. We watch her read her son’s last letter home, in which he rages against Bush and the war. We last see Lila standing at the gates of the White House, tears boiling from her eyes, as she discovers her true enemy, the one who took her baby from her."
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:02 AM
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24. Nice, Will!
The only suggestion I would have is in this sentence:

I found no fact, no assertion in this film to question or doubt. I have done my homework, and as was made painfully clear, Michael Moore did his.

Is "painfully" the most apropos adverb? How about abundantly, or something without the negative connotations.

No biggie, you are the pro.

Thanks again for another great read!
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:05 AM
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25. F 9/11 review
Well said. Thanks.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:08 AM
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26. Nice piece
I particularly liked the point concerning our TV broadcast media and their responsibility. They need to know people will be on to them sooner or later. Their credibility with many (besides us in the know)will unravel.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:12 AM
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28. I'm glad he starts the movie with the theft of the election
for the millions of Americans who were "misled" I hope they realize that should have been their first clue.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:13 AM
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29. Great article, but the following doesn't read quite right:
"...though their President and their media named them traitor. They were right. They were right. They were right."

It sounds as if you are saying that the Prez and the media were right in calling them traitors.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:25 AM
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34. good catch, Th1onein.
sounds like the pres and media were right about them being traitors.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:20 AM
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32. Another one outta the ballpark. My favorite passage:
"Not only will Americans get a sense of the depth of the deception they have endured, but ‘journalists’ all across the country will be forced to endure the humiliation they so richly deserve."

The BIGGEST, and I MEAN - THE BIGGEST - culpability of all is the media's. A completely inexcusable, shameful, GROSS DERELICTION OF DUTY. The grossest. They were in position to sort through the bullshit, look directly into the shifty eyes close up, and get access to ALL the facts. And they resolutely did not. Many of them should have known better. Some of 'em were too stupid to care - the blow dryer set with the big collagen lips and the perfect makeup and perfectly graying sideburns who know only TelePrompTer technique and ego gratification - such completely shallow stupidity (apppropriately mirroring the kind of "leadership" we've had for three and a half years) means they don't know better. But there were lots of others who SHOULD HAVE. Who weren't former beauty queens, and had credentials and, DAMMIT, KNEW BETTER!!! Judy Woodruff and Wolf Blitzer should have known better. Tom Brokaw should have. Ted Koppel should have known better. Same for Peter Jennings.From what I've read of Dan Rather, and knowing his track record, I'm halfway inclined to think he did know better but was completely cowed by his upper management and corporate bosses. And he wasn't up to quitting in protest. And, MY GOD, Bob Woodward should have known better.

Will, they're SO damnably culpable - so guilty as enablers. I EARNESTLY wish and wait to witness the coming of that humiliation they so richly deserve. I'm struck and shaken by the dereliction of duty. I am VERY glad you put this pointed comment in. Perhaps at some point you'll devote an entire (excoriating, I hope) column to this. And from your word processor to God's reading table.

Bless your heart. This is wonderful. Wonderful as usual, but by itself as well. Wonderful.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:57 AM
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39. I totally agree: what passes for journalism in this country is criminal
Calimary,

Thank you for saying what I have been thinking for so long about American journalism. It's all corporate owned and lock step. The only reason most of them are giving Bush his comeuppance now is because he is losing the Iraq war/occupation. If the operation in Iraq had been successful, I don't think we'd be hearing any criticism of Bush from them.

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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 07:03 AM
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50. I agree...
... and I wonder what we are going to do about it.

This must be atoned for, and it can never happen again.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:45 AM
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35. Arghhhh.....too many names of towns it got me dizzy and I couldn't read
any more...but then it's 1:46 a.m. and I should be in bed...

Can't you be a little more personal in this review? After all who cares how many places are showing it...

Just tweaking...but really it turned me off..but then I'm tired and shouldn't have even posted, but was up and thought I'd check out your review.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:46 AM
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36. My obligatory Koko scolding
Excellent. :)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:49 AM
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37. No...actually I went back and read it before I log out...I think it's
very rough...cursory...but trying...

What the hell do I know, Will...I'm tired and going to bed. Whatever you do will work out. As you know! :D
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:57 AM
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38. An EXCELLENT read. My heart is heavy from
the weight of this.......... Thank you for posting it.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:07 AM
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42. Thanks for the review, Willl...
as I type this through my tears. I'm going to see this film tomorrow night. I feel so much pain everyday that our young boys and innocent Iraques are being killed everyday and I can't do anything about it. I've gone to the protests, I've called and written my congress people, I talk to whomever will listen.... I'm praying as hard as I can that this will be the catalyst that's wakes the "average American" up...but my faith is waining. I'm trying so hard not to loose hope.......
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:02 AM
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41. LINK FOR FINAL
Thanks for the edits, everyone.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/0625041.shtml
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:55 AM
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43. Very Good William
you're right up there with Mr. Moore on getting the truth out, he on film, you on paper...with your book with Scott Ritter, you did everything you could do to prevent the War In Iraq.

Now this article goes out to my list....I hope to see it Sunday.

But you know tonight I heard the republicans are trying to stop it before their convention in NY using the courts so it doesn't inter fer with Bush's campaign taking off,
there's nothing they won't try to do to hide the truth.

Besides Bush has been just a big campaign since he was selected...except now the lies and deception is catching up to him and his cronies, thanks to men like you and Moore!
And a very long list here of DUers getting the word out! :hi:



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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 06:39 AM
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49. Good job Pitt...
One thing that bugged me though... Last night you mentioned that you were writing the review and that is was coming in 3---2---1.... It actually came in about 5. Don't let that happen again. ;-)
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:34 PM
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53. Perfect.........Also, I didn't know that Truthout was your website!
Good for you! Good for all of us! I look for your essays to send to a friend of mine. He is always inspired by them (he's not left or right wing).

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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:02 AM
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44. William Pitt: I want to thank you for your wonderful website
Over the past several years, it has kept me from losing my mind over all the--I'll say it--propaganda that the mainstream media has thrown in our faces. There have been times when I have despaired of this country's ability to see "the man behind the curtain". Your site has done a lot to sustain my hope that Americans would eventually figure it out.

Thanks. You have an amazing website.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:55 AM
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45. Truthout rocks and in fact, the truth does seem to be getting out finally!
Yeah, I can second that one. I've come to hate the weekends because I'm addicted to listening to the nightly Truthout Overview Monday through Friday.

As far as Fahrenheit 9/11 goes, we in Austin are having a unique(?) and wonderful problem. The shows for this weekend are selling out fast. We have that silly Fandango thing here and people are snarfing up the tickets. A large group of my friends had to pick an alternate venue because the theater/time they had picked was sold out! Whoo hoo!

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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 04:00 AM
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47. Nice review
Journalists, mainstream political journalists in the broadcast media especially, are America's number one enemy. Far beyond Muslim terrorism.

I'm glad Moore hit them, because even after Bush and Cheney have gone, the right-wing skew of TV and cable news will be pushing America into the ugliest, that is, most rightward, configuration manageable given whatever circumstances exist.

I really don't see how a single movie can wake up enough people to understand how debilitating the corruption of our information sources is, but if it helps in any way, great.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 10:49 AM
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51. .
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 11:42 AM
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52. Beautifully written
It made me tear up. Amazing .Thank you.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:42 PM
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54. Rate the movie on Yahoo...
Give it a grade, once you've seen it!

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808569540
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:55 PM
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58. Thanks for the link
Once I have seen it, I'll be sure to rate it.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:47 PM
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55. Excellent piece, Will. Thanks for sharing this draft
Couple things about 'Muricans: They don't read enough, to be sure - but they DO go to the movies - they will rent movies and watch TV!! The Bushtapo is being stopped now! Michael Moore is the anti-establishment hero of the 2000's!!! Hooray!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 12:48 PM
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56. Will, the real scars are on the heart.
As you, the Bard, and I well know.
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Quahog Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 01:34 PM
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57. Thanks Will
Nice job, as usual.

Mrs. Quahog and I will not be able to see the film until next week, but we hope that the lines will still be long. We're proud to wait in them!
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