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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:27 AM
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Katie Couric put in her place by Michael Moore.
As expected during her interview of MM, she started on the 'Saddam is a murderous tyrant' schtick and why didn't he put that in his documentary for balance. He came back at her with she and the news media beat that drum, he was showing that Iraq also had human beings who went about their lives, with children playing, who were bombed and killed by the thousands. He then charged on about if she and the news media had done their jobs, asking pertinent questions, maybe >800 American soldiers wouldn't have died. She was put on the defensive then changed her questioning to emails from the audience.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:34 AM
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1. Moore is great in interviews
he looks and sounds like a normal guy among all the hairspray, it's almost shocking to see him in that setting.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:34 AM
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2. I bet they won't invite him anymore now that they know he wont just roll
over but question them on their selling of America.
Nasty, nasty Michael... away with you. We just like liberals who roll over and say thanks for having me, you goddess of TV....
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:45 AM
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3. the great thing about M.Moore is that it's just common sense and not
rhetoric..lets hope he sticks it up some more to this dopey talking heads.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:45 AM
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4. She ripped him for his wardrobe...
Moore should've said "Katie, did your recent makeover help you become a better journalist?"

Would've floored her...
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:48 AM
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8. I heard her crack wise about his wardrobe, too.
Something about he obviously doesn't spend any money on his wardrobe. What a harpy.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:50 AM
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9. WTF
She ripped him on his wardrobe?!!!!! DId she say anything about his weight too. Katie can attack his movie but his clothes? WTF Aagain!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:37 AM
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31. Oh Do Tell Katie!
What ARE the well-dressed news bimbos wearing in the Hamptons this season??? Who gives a fuck what that 500 dollar highlighting job thinks? Is she totally unable to discern real life any more?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:39 AM
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32. Beautiful.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:17 AM
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46. LOL
especially since despite all those fab hairstylists in NYC and all her money, her hair looks like shit. Someone should tell her that long blonde (dyed) hair doesn't work for everybody ...

Also she flashes a lotta leg now but I guess that befits her media WHORE status .... bitchy, bitchy, bitchy :evilgrin:
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jdsmith Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:19 PM
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58. She criticized one of the most recognizable costumes in the USA?
Moore has created a personal fashion statement that Roland Barthes would go nuts over.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:59 PM
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63. A personal attack eh?
Sounds like she had no other options but attack him personally. This speaks volumes about her ethics as a "journalist" and as a person in general.
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uptown ruler Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:47 AM
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5. not surprising...
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:47 AM
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6. Coming from a woman who had her ass scoped on national TV...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:19 AM
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13. Exactly!!! I remember the way she went on and on about Janet's Boob.
The whole time I'm thinking, "OK, Katie, but you showed all of America the inside of your ass!"

:eyes:
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:11 AM
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26. Oh poo on you!
The inside of a colon is a beautiful and magical place full of wonders and mysteries and undiscovered frontiers. A boob on the other hand is the tool of Satan. :crazy:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:40 AM
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33. I'm surprised that scope didn't find her head up there.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:15 AM
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45. lol n/t
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:13 PM
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56. LOL!
Thanks for making me spit out my water onto my computer screen! That was great!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:47 AM
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7. We are boycotting the Today Show after Laeur's interview
THAT was the biggest piece of whoring and water carrying I have ever seen. He was going on and on about the torture footage (minimal in the film according to Moore), about how the White House (stated as FACT) said it was not worth commenting on (Moore pointed out that they hadn't seen the movie), about HOW did Moore get film crews into Iraq ( use of freelancers), and on and on.

At the end it was pretty clear that Moore had had enough and he said the same thing to Lauer that he said to Couric-If YOU had asked such quesitons we might not be in this mess. It was a real FU and my wife and I decided that we will no longer watch the Today Show and are firing off e-mails to Lauer to tell him how much of a scumsuckingWHORE he is.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:01 AM
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11. I don't do any of the morning infotainment shows - all suck
Dummied-down "news" for the poor ignorant masses. Let's face it, these TV programmers play to the lowest common denominator. Teachers catch a lot of flack for dummying down the curriculum and teaching to the lowest common denominator, but this is what our society does - period. Newspapers are written at about a 6th grade level (lower than that for small local papers), tv news is directed at about a 4th grade comprehension level. The morning shows are the worse - sort of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood for the grownups.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:19 AM
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48. part of the corporate plan n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:23 AM
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15. Yes, and CNN has that curmudgeon Jack Cafferty going on about Clinton.
The email question of the day is something like "Have you heard enough about Bill Clinton and his personal life?"

Why, yes, Jack, I have, in fact. It's a 900+ page book, but the perverted media chooses to focus on sex, predictably. Eight years, and all you can talk about is blowjobs.

God, the media is so damned lazy. Are they shrinks, or journalists, because I just can't tell the difference anymore...

And, Clinton's book isn't even out until midnight, and they want to know if America is "sick" of it yet. Funny, they never asked us if we were sick of The Reagasm.

But I digress... back to Michael Moore discussion. :-)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:31 AM
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17. Wow Cheney agrees with you
"The press is, with all due respect there are exceptions, often times lazy, often simply reports what someone else in the press says without doing their homework," Cheney said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5233810/
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:37 AM
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21. That was so NOT fair, underpants!
:grr: :mad: :grr:

:D
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:06 AM
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24. Cafferty isn't a curmudgeon, he's a prick. I won't watch CNN am because
of him and his cynical bullshit. Also, they have their katie couric clone in soulessdad.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:23 AM
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27. Cafferty hates Clinton, but he also dislikes Bush
He, amazingly, has become the only balanced, educated voice on that wasteland of a show. He is old enough to remember corrupt presidents; Hemmer and Solidad aren't even old enough to remember H.R. Puffenstuff. Cafferty more and more gets agitated with the both of them when they start with the talking-points Bush defenses. Don't get me wrong...I don't like him. But at least he has the life experience to comment about the stuff going on. Far more than anyone can say about the Ken and Barbie twins.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:43 AM
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36. It's only too much for the whores when it's Clinton's version, not theirs.
How transparent!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:35 AM
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20. Good idea!
I caught a small snip of the interview in between events down in Houston at our state convention, and had never seen Lauer so smarmy and disgusting.

I liked the way Moore put him in his place about it being a "PARTISAN" film. He specifically stated that he had not voted for Clinton the second time, that he had not voted for Gore in 2000, and that he was not doing it for the Democrats.

"But the movie does bash President Bush."
"Oh, it definitely does THAT."

Or something to that extent.

I'm still annoyed at Moore after his "prick" remark about Dean, but I've got high hopes for this movie. We all need each other. I'm working past it.

FSC
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 07:52 AM
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10. Why do Clarke and Moore get asked if they are going to donate profits
from their works? Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh--are they ever asked this kind of tripe?

And what's up with Katie? Has she become conservative?
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:03 AM
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12. Good point...
Coulter and the gang don't have any responsibility to give to charity? Please...
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:23 AM
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50. Well Actually.....
"Coulter and the gang don't have any responsibility to give to charity? Please..."

Actually..... These right wing books don't generate income, they are a charity within themselves. 98 percent of the profit is probably used to buy copies of their own books to try and boost them upward on the best seller list.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:26 AM
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16. I had noticed that too recently Linazelle........
are they going to give profits from their book to charity? That is absurd. The other side get their profits AND a big "attaboy" to boot.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:42 AM
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34. I don't know if Katie is conservative
but she knows who pays her those big paychecks.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:46 AM
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38. Seriously. They've earned their money and deserve it. Couric and Lauer
are the ones who have the blood money. They should definitely be giving the profits from their media whoring to the victims of their media whoring.

They could start with the Red Cross's Iraq projects and the ACLU.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:20 AM
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14. wow
they were discussing the case for war, and how the media rolled over. Katie says "but Powell presented satellite photos before the UN". Moore says "they were satellite photos of BUILDINGS, the pictures of the trucks (and mobile labs) were created COMPUTER graphics like a 7th grade class could do".
The point is, Katie didn't know that???????? Moore just made his point!!!!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:34 AM
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19. oh god
Katie must watch her own crappy show too much, how could she not know that?

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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:12 AM
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44. That just goes to show how
incredibly stupid Couric is. I almost fell off my bed laughing when she said "satellite photos" my gosh, anyone can get a satellite photo of a building. I must have missed the sign on the building that said WMD's HERE. Moore really put her in her place. I loved it.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:34 AM
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18. Well its obvious that the Press is getting its marching orders to attack..
Its pretty blatant ain't it? The cooperate owned news is going after Moore with both barrels and Moore was not only ready for it but also getting in some pretty good shots at them. What a dilemma for the joke press! They hate what Moore is doing but hes such a hot topic that they have to have him on..Ha!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:47 AM
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22. Just ask Keith Olbermann... I'm sure the WH faxed over Talking Points.
:eyes:

Unbelievable, isn't it? And NBC seems to be leading the warpath against Moore; Keith Olbermann taught us that NBC/MSBNC receives the Rovian Fax Talking Point Orders!
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:26 AM
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51. Unbelievable...NBC seems to be leading the warpath
Unfortunately, it's all too believable. David Brock in The Republican Noise Machine devotes reams of pages to NBC and all its spinoffs. They are FOX dressed up. PERIOD. Their 'people' are Jack Welch (Bush Pioneer) and Roger Ailes whores (before FOX, Ailes was the bigwig behind MSNBC!).

In the end, however, the people will speak. Bill Clinton's book and Michael Moore's film will be runaway successes.
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 08:53 AM
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23. Wasn't it great!
I was jumping for joy. Michael really handed it to the Mediawhores.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:09 AM
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25. Katie Couric is only trying to appease the bush apologist
out there. But it doesn't matter, they will never like her and will continue to call her a liberal media hag.
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 09:51 AM
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28. Need address for Katie and/or Matt
want to send a nastygram...but cannot find a link. Went to
today.msnbc.com and it doesn't show email address. Can anyone help?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:29 AM
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29. About half way down click on "Today"
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:00 AM
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39. Hi there onecent!
Glad you're your here, welcome to DU. :hi:

The following is an incredible list of media contacts compiled by a DUer that you may want to bookmark.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1413842
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:35 AM
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30. That woman is a joke
She's not a journalist, she's a total caricature who must have had that toothy grin surgically implanted.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:44 AM
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37. I heard Moore ...
on some D.C. public-affairs radio show yesterday as I did the tourist thing in D.C. ... the interviewer kept bringing up "inaccuracies" various people had "found" in his movie. Moore would not give an inch. "That is absolutely not true," he kept saying. "My Web site will have documentation to prove that everything I've said in the movie is true." He would not give an inch, though the interviewer hammered on and on. He hangs tough!

I was driving on Constitution Avenue, within sight of the White House, at the time I was listening to the interview; wow, what a juxtaposition!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:28 PM
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60. Funny. no one bothers to ask the questions of those who know
It's not Moore who should be grilled!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:03 AM
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40. I just wrote my email


I sure let both of them have my opinion of their show and their "plastic Bubble" that they live in these days.

I also told them that I will be watching other shows from now on.

Katie would be floored if someone told her about her new ugly clothes look, botox injections and sprayed hair. She was kinda cute but she is now a Nazi.

Matt is just mad because he has lost his hair. He has tried to cut it ever kind of way and nothing is working. He is now a Nazi too.

I am sick of these media people trying to please Republicans.
Thank God for Michael Moore. He is a true American Hero!

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:10 AM
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42. Damn right!
The fact that she gets to be called a journalist is evidence of the complete failure of journalism as a "profession".

There are hundreds of Katies in local media all over the country.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 10:43 AM
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35. The media should be happy that someone's doing their jobs for them.
Since they don't have the balls to bring up any of this stuff. How dare they attack the ONLY person who is out there who is brave enough to bring this stuff up. He is paving the road for them to be able to come out and speak up - and instead of being grateful they're trying to squelch the only person brave enough to say what they've been thinking.

Guess they're so desperate to keep their jobs that they'll say anything and do anything that their "masters" tell them to do.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:05 AM
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41. I suspect the shilling
media wil just blackball Moore from TV from now on. They don't like being told the truth about themselves. They're all egomaniacs and will never admit that they were cheerleaders for this invasion. What kind of "TRUE journalist" would let the Pentagon dictate what kind of news they could report? That's exactly what happened with the embedded journalists. The TRUTH was not to be seen....the Pentagon forbid it. It's about time they were called on their bullshit shilling. :grr:
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:18 AM
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47. I've boycotted Today show for years
Couric reminds me of a Tokyo Rose for the Republicans/GE military Industrial Complex.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:32 PM
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61. make that 3
stopped watching the morning couric started attacking Hillary - the same morning Hillary IDed the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and all the media made it a big joke.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:20 AM
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49. Same here...
NO CNN either.

The air just seems fresher in the morning. :)
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:11 AM
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43. Saddam did not kill ---these
Children
Flower girls in weddings
Babies in cribs in homes
Cripples
Very Old people

Bush did.
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patmacsf Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:27 AM
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52. Lighten up .. Katie was doing her job
I would almost call that question a softball for Micahel Moore and kudos to Katie "affable eve braun" for allowing Michael to knock that one out of the park for all America to hear.

If anything, Katie Couric is a friend to liberals and she's very good at what she does. You can be sure that O'Liarly and Sean Hannity aren't going to be letting Michael Moore on their shows or if they do getting an easy pitch like that. Now America has seen a truly angry American and they are getting the message that it's no longer ok to cower or risk being called un-American anymore!
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:39 PM
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54. Yeah, you're right
If Katie and Matt are nice to Moore, they get blasted as the "liberal media". If they ask him tough questions, it gives him a chance to answer them. They could have given him a heads up though. I get the impression from the interview with the Canadian journalist that he felt kind of blind-sided by Lauer. But let's face it, the Today show ain't no 60 Minutes.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:43 AM
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53. Dang!
I missed it! But thanks for posting the play by play. Michael Moore is the ONLY person I've seen state the OBVIOUS to the whores. He just flat out tells them he doesn't trust them. They, in turn, have nothing to say. It's hysterical. Now if only we could get a politician who would speak like that to them!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:57 PM
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55. I thought he did great! Especially...
...when he was practically BEGGING the media (pointing out NBC, too) to do their job on behalf of the American people.

He illustrated beautifully how the media has 100% freedom to ask ANY question they wish, and how we, the public, DEPEND on them to ask the questions we can't and how they are instrumental in getting the truth to the people. He pointed out THEY are not doing the job, so somebody has to step in on our behalf, but he sincerely stated his case on how we need the media to use all it's freedoms to get at the truth. He was very genuine here, and I think the result shamed her.

Of course, we DUers know better than to expect anything resembling acting on the public's behalf, but it was great to hear MMoore spell it out.

And yeah, the comment about his wardrobe (again, ad nauseum) was lame. When all else fails, tell the guy he looks like an unmade bed - typical.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:18 PM
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57. Katie Couric, you ignorant slut.
It needed to be said.

For REAL News visit:
http://sludgereport.blogspot.com/
=========
Welcome to DU bermudat.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:20 PM
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59. Couldn't GE shareholders sue for breach of fiduciary responsibility?
I mean against the board; if NBC is allowed to actually expose the Bush administration's corruption, it could and most likely would cost GE lucrative defense contracts, which would impact its bottom line. Since the corporation's first duty is to make money for its shareholders, knowingly allowing one division to sink another division...well, they simply cannot do that and uphold their promise to their shareholders to protect their interests.

In short, I simply don't see how an arrangement like this is even allowed to exist! Next time someone says the media is liberal, explain to them why, at least in GE's case, allowing "real" reporting just wouldn't be an option, as it would harm the shareholders.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:36 PM
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62. I regret ever buying GE products now that I know about them
The day we can trust NBC to give a non-Fox type news broadcast is the day I will have faith in this country again.
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