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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:07 PM
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I called an AM "Oldies" station today.....

...after hearing the disc jockey, or announcer (or whatever they call them these days) make the following statement, completely out of the blue and with no context:

"You know, the 9/11 Commission wouldn't be able to make a link between Saddam Hussein and his moustache."

About 20 minutes later, I was on my cell phone to the station. I told them I wanted to register an complaint about something I heard on their radio station. They transferred me to "Gary", evidentally the guy who had said it.

I explained that his comment was very offensive, that the 9/11 commission was bipartisan and had been appointed to make such judgements. I said that his need to shove his political beliefs down his listeners' throats was reprehensible.

Gary - "Most people think the 9/11 Commission was partison."

Me -- "No, most people do NOT think that. That is something you are merely saying to me on the telephone right now."

Gary -- "Well, blah blah blah platitude."

Me -- "I can see that I've made absolutely no impression on you."

Gary -- "Well we appreciate hearing other points of view.." or some such.

At that point, I lost it and said "F___ You." and hung up.

Yep, I lost my temper, and that was probably not the best way to handle it. But, I could tell he really didn't give a crap about what I was saying or what I thought. Anyone have similar experiences? Is there a better way to handle this type of thing? Do you think it did any good for me to call?
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:09 PM
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1. That's the typical bush* attitude.
Remember when bush* said "who cares what you think?" Looks like this guy took a page right out of his playbook.
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disinfo_guy Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:10 PM
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2. good for you
where the hell do they get these people anyway?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:15 PM
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3. I don't think the Commission was "partisan."
I think it was "politician."

That's why it's bogus.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:17 PM
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4. Oh, do you live in Texas, too?
That is SOOOO the attitude here in Bush country. No NPR here. No sir. No way. But plenty of Rush Limbaugh wanna beeees.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:18 PM
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5. BTW, the 9/11 Commission IS partisan...50% RePub, 50% Dem.
and the chairman is Republican.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:26 PM
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6. WTF do Oldies stations know? They call the Clash's "Combat Rock"...
"easy listening" now.

Farking morans...
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:34 PM
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7. Is the station owned by Clear Channel?
In Houston, the album rock station K-LOL is Clear Channel, and while they were a hip, progressive station in the 70's and 80's, they are now a pro-war, pro-Republican station. The DJ's make cracks like that all the time -- especially the morning drive folks are unbelievably racist. It's time for new underground radio like we had in the 60's! FISH Cheer and all!!!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:35 PM
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8. Not sure..guess I could research it..

...even so, what good does it do to find out?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:35 PM
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9. Not sure..guess I could research it..

...even so, what good does it do to find out?
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:41 PM
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19. Same story here...
...almost exactly, except the music was in a different format. The old morning drive hasn't been the same since...
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disinfo_guy Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:39 PM
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10. heh, the Clash IS easy listening now
that's one thing you can't blame on ClearChannel :)
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:50 PM
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11. Well, they can lick my ba.....
WTF happened to make the Clash easy listening?

Compared to the new crap that's out there, well, there's no comparison.

/DoNotRefill sings "bulletholes in the cemetary walls..." while vowing to stomp into the ground the first person who tells me to my face that the Clash is "easy listening" :grr:

(btw, disinfo, I ain't talking 'bout stomping you or any other DUer...gotta find a nice fundie Xtian to have this conversation with... ;) )
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nayt Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:48 PM
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46. well, as long as you're only going to "stomp" a christian
i guess its ok.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 09:59 PM
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12. I don't buy your story.
Where in Washington state is an independent oldies disc jockey? I thought they were extinct. Everything is formula now.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:43 PM
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14. delete
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 10:44 PM by skooooo
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:44 PM
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15. You don't buy my story?

yeah, I just made it up. Whatever.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:00 PM
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17. What is the station?
Just curious.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:20 AM
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22. That's irrelevant to the point of my post.

But I know it's fun for you to log on to the Internet and essentially call people "liar", isn't it?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:39 PM
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29. No
Re-read my posts please.

Thank you.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:19 PM
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30. Ok, I reread them..

....You start out saying that you don't buy "my story." How many ways are there to interpret that??

Then somehow, you figure out what state I'm living in, and you feel need to make mention of that (which I also think is kind of absurd, not to mention weird). What do you do, sit around and track IP addresses???

So, next time you don't buy "my story", just move on and we'll both be happier. Just assume I have no veracity and keep your comments to yourself? It seems like everyone else was able to glean something from the story and add some thought or information. If you can't, why do you even respond???
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:16 PM
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31. Thank you for re-reading my posts and responding.
Your DU profile says you are in Washington.

You put that information there, not me. If you don't want that info in your profile, you should consider deleting it. It's there for anyone to see. It's not absurd or weird to examine it. It takes one click.

I don't know how to track your IP address, I have no idea what it is.

There is nothing in this thread that backs up your story, and you refuse to post any information that might verify it. Instead, you say I have called you a liar, which I haven't. With more information, your story may prove valid. If so, I was wrong and will admit it.

Post #24 points out that "Gary" might not even be in your town. You acknowledge this by saying in post #27, "I didn't realize that...they did switch me to him..and it sounded a bit odd. But the number was local, so who knows?" All I wanted to know was, which station? It's pretty straightforward. If we knew the station, a lot of DUers (me included) would rush to your defense and make phone calls and send emails. When I first read your post, that's what I was looking for.

Facts are good. You have not provided any. Many people post here who don't back up what they say, skooooo, and they are challenged. Don't take it personally. If you are that passionate, back it up. I won't post stuff that I can't verify because I know I'll be called on it. We all expect that here, right?

If you are able to verify any part of your story, I will publicly apologize to you on DU for all to see. It's not personal. It really isn't.

I don't know if what you say is true or not, that's all. What's bad about questioning that? You're just posting on the Internet like me, right? You shouldn't believe anything I say either, unless it is verifiable. I wouldn't expect anything less....
:) Peace to you and all.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:51 PM
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33. I lied!

Don't believe anything I say ok?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:14 PM
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35. Well, okay then.
Your call.

:eyes:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:30 PM
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38. I just think that responding "I don't buy your story"..

...is inappropriate. If you don't buy someone's story, you can politely ask questions. There's no way I can "prove" this happened. It was a telephone conversation. I didn't record it. Believe what you will.

But be disbelieving and confrontational when someone is honestly trying to relate an event to you, expect defensiveness and a certain amount of testiness.

I can't prove anything.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:46 PM
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42. I should have worded my initial response differently
I can see how that would be taken as a challenge, which it was.

My questions were polite. I didn't mean to offend you and I hope we can leave it at that. I didn't ask for a recording.

I neither believe nor disbelieve. There's not enough information. I meant no personal offense, and I am remorseful about hurting your feelings.

Okay, I can't prove that. :) You'll just have to take my word for it....

:hi:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:11 PM
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43. well I'm sorry too...

...no hard feelings? :-)

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:17 PM
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44. None whatsoever.
:hug:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:19 PM
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45. I think I'm going to cry!

..lol..ok, not really. Still, it's more fun to get along, isn't it? Take care.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:19 PM
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37. Maybe I don't want to reveal that??

Although I did in another post...I wasn't asking anyone to rush and defend me. Defend me from what? I ruined it by telling the guy "fuck you".

I still don't understand why giving the call letters proves my story one way or the other. I don't know why I have to prove myself anyway. Why would I make this up??
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:55 PM
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34. No one is...
...calling you a "liar." It's really just a very simple question: what are the call letters of the station in question? Don't see what's so hard about that.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:16 PM
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36. ok..
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 09:22 PM by skooooo
KRPL..how does that prove anything one way or the other?

edit: transposed two letters. It's an Idaho station.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:34 PM
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39. It was never meant to...
..."prove" anything one way or the other. A simple question was asked, and, after much hemming and hawing (and a tad bit of defensiveness), has now been answered. That's all. Period end of story. Thank you.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:35 PM
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40. gee wonder why i was defensive
go figure
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:09 PM
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13. After listening to the hearings on the radio and watching them...
...on television I would have to say that the D.J. is guilty of a severe understatement. After all the pandering to the camera I saw on day one I knew that it was all a farce. I am also familiar with Gorelick from the OK City bombing and saw my suspicions about her lack of investigative skills confirmed during the Nichols trial. It is my opinion that that lady could not investigate her own behind if her head was up it.

I would like to see a 911 Commission formed...using investigators, not politicians.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:07 AM
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20. Agreed...
...I think such inquiries should be turned over to truly independent investigators as a rule.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:23 AM
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23. The commission was bi-partisan...

...led by a Republican. They voted unanimously with each other I believe 100% of the time. So, please explain how that is anything but bi-partisan?

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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:46 PM
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16. It's okay, those AM gold stations are going down the drain these...
days. So he will likely be out of work soon.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:19 PM
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18. I thought they were...
...already extinct. They turned all the ones around here over to the Rightwing Talk crowd, so the ditto-monkey's could get their gibberish spoon-fed to them 24-7.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:42 AM
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21. What you should have said
"Just spin the records, jerk off."

And then hung up. The world doesn't need the opinions of some hackney disc jockey. It really irritates me when random political comments (that I disagree with, of course) are thrown out in those types of situations. Just shut the fuck up and play the records. Nobody cares about your opinion.



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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:30 AM
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24. "Gary" may not have even been in your town.
With technology "local" DJs are not so local. A radio chain such as Clear Channel can have one DJ for many cities.

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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:05 AM
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27. I didn't realize that....

...they did switch me to him..and it sounded a bit odd. But the number was local, so who knows?
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:40 AM
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28. the number can be rerouted ...
so you don't know if it eventually went 1000 miles away.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:45 AM
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25. should have asked
"the members on the committee were appointed by BUSH - so are you saying that bush is partisan?"
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:53 AM
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26. Whenever someone throws the "partisan" 9/11 commission
Ask them how:

a Republican Senate
a Republican Congress
a Republican President

Would sign off on a PARTISAN Democratic 9/11 commission.
Would be an interesting answer. They would have to admit (at least in their own mind) that either

A. Republicans are stupid
B. The 9/11 commission was fair and balanced
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:43 PM
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32. actually it IS partisan, but
partisan leaning pro=Bush.

It was NOT an independent commission. It was hand-picked by Bush.

And though it's come out with a few things that contradict the official line, overall it seems more of a whitewash.

So this is more of the right wing talking points: Portray the pro-Bush commission findings as "partisan" and thus suspect...

Typical extremist mouthpiece.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:37 PM
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41. Most country and oldies channels are owned by Clearchannel
That should explain a lot !
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