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The Blue Knight Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:36 PM
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Does the Left hate Bush as much as the Right hated Clinton?
Yes or no?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:37 PM
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1. I can only speak for myself
and yes,I probably hate Bush even more :)
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:37 PM
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2. From where I sit
nobody could hate anybody more than I hate Bush.
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:27 AM
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50. The depth of my hatred for *
knows no bounds. Even a freeper couldn't develop a more true and pure hatred.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:55 AM
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63. Hi 26yrTeamster!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:38 PM
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3. Not much doubt about it.
The evil bastards shopuld have remembered 'As ye sow, so shall ye reap'.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:38 PM
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4. Hated Clinton?
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:39 PM
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5. I dunno
How bad the right hated Clinton, I wasn't one of them. Looked like it, though.

I do know that MY animus for Shrub runs very deep.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:40 PM
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6. Yep
The one difference is, there's no well-funded, coordinated Vast Left Wing Conspiracy to destroy Bush.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:50 PM
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13. That and the left has absolutely NO interest
in Dubyas penis. Unlike the CONservative crowd who are STILL obsessed with the Clenis.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:19 AM
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43. You got that right.
If there's anything I've had LESS interest in, it's Dubya's penis -- the WEENIS.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:40 PM
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7. Probably.
The difference is we have cause, the right hated Clinton b/c Rush told them to.
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napsi Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:07 AM
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42. Dont Hate Rush
Dont be harsh on Rush because he is always right and you can not stand it.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:47 AM
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47. You're joking, right?
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:34 AM
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60. you've just got to meet our du'er who does anagrams. ;) nt
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 06:34 AM by Paradise
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:40 PM
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8. Even moreso
President Clinton was hated all over a "sex lie" when Bill got caught in the perjury trap set up by that nancy-boy Kenny Starr.

Chimpy is repsonsible for LYING about war, and unnecessarily causing the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent victims. Bush is truly an evil pussbag.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:51 PM
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14. Clinton was hated before the sex lie.
They had this irrational hatred for him since long before the bj and the perfectly natural lie about it. Don't you remember the (as seen on TV) Clinton clock that ran back wards. Trying to dismiss him through derision. Or the way they screamed when Hillary headed the commission on universal health care.
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zydeco Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:41 PM
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9. For me Yes.
President Clinton never condoned Treason, War Crimes, War Profiteering, and most citizens were working.
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richmwill Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:41 PM
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10. What's funny is...
After 8 years of vile hatred from them towards Clinton, blaming him for everything bad that ever happened during those 8 years (I'll bet even if they stub their toes, they yell "Damn- this is all Clinton's fault!"), they are SHOCKED and horrified by our "lack of respect for the President of the United States", and claim we are "unpatriotic" for not supporting him.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:45 PM
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11. Bush hating
I think the hatred is different because underneath it is the bitterness from the Clinton years. Every time I think of the hypocrisy of the current administration, the lies, I can't help but think, what would the RW have done if this was Clinton? It really adds to the anger.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:27 PM
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37. It does the same thing to me too and welcome to DU!
:hi: jasmeel!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:47 PM
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12. Depends on how you define hate
The RW hated Clinton because he exceeded their expectations and did a great job with the economy and the country in general. To admit they liked Clinton was to admit that Democrats were good for the country. Can't have that! They did NOT hate him for sex, that was just an excuse. Hate in Clinton's case wasn't really hate, it was something else.

I don't need to list the reasons Bush is so hated. We all know why.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:55 PM
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15. MORE
imho
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:56 PM
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16. The right wing had no reason to hate Clinton
Except for the fact that he made Reagan and Bush Sr look like fucking failures by cleaning up the mess they left him. Junior wishes he was Clinton. You could see that in the portrait ceremony this week.

On the other hand, Junior the unelected Idiot son of an Asshole has shit all over the constitution, trashed the economy, raped the environment, and murdered thousands for no fucking justifiable purpose.

He is hated for good reason :grr:
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:28 PM
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28. Waco. n/t
n/t
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 07:59 PM
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17. Only to the googleplex to the googleplex power more.
(If this sounds weird, try googling "googleplex"...I haven't done it but I'm guessing it'll show up)
;-)
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:00 PM
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18. A Thousand Times ...
... more.

Because in the case of DimSon-McCrackHappy-WarHardOn there is substance to and justification for that hatred. In the case of President Clinton, it was hatred simply for the sake of hatred since those ass wipes have very little else in their sad lives than to act out their jealousies.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:01 PM
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19. Yes, but
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 08:18 PM by Buzzz
I don't think it's the kind of violent, rabid hate that's so common on the right. It's educated hate.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:02 PM
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20. i hope so
we've countless good reasons to do so.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:09 PM
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21. yes, but it's not personal and it's not just Bush
I hate him, but only as much as I hate Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, Delay and the rest of the gang. Not one of them should be walking around free, let alone deciding the fate of the nation.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:14 PM
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22. Hate? No. Utter contempt, yes.
You can add, loathe, disdain, disgust, and a bit of horror that such an individual is the president of this country.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:17 PM
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23. I don't "hate" Bush or anyone really.
I just want him to go FAR, FAR away.
NOW.
BHN
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:19 PM
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24. Bush is hated along policy decisions and stolen election
The right hated the Clintons for his sex and the right's lies.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:23 PM
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25. I certainly didn't hate HW as much as the right hated Clinton
I didn't like Poppy, but I didn't hate the guy. I just thought he was an out-of-touch flake.

Same with Reagan. There were many things I disliked about him, but he seemed like a decent guy.

The right wing and Clinton. Now that was pure hate. They hated him so much they tried to overthrow him.

And yes, I think Dubya is pure scum.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:24 PM
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26. Juicy!
Hmmm...how many deaths can be attributed to Clinton?

And...
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 08:26 PM
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27. No. Our animosity towards Bush is justified.
He's a goddamn criminal.

The Right's hatred of Clinton was irrational. They
hated him for who he was, not for what he did. He
could have been anybody with a "D" after his name.
They felt he had interrupted their rightful continued
possession of the White House.

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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:33 PM
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29. I think we hate him more
because our hate is based on Bush being a horrible president, whereas their hate was based on Clinton being a liberal and getting a blowjob.

True, theirs was intense, but ours is righteous. :D
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:34 PM
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30. Everybody hates Bush as much as the "Right" hated Clinton.
That's the difference. Democrats loved Clinton, and so did most of the people in the rest of the world. And they loved our country, what it stood for, and even our products. Now everybody hates Bush except the isolated, paranoid Right.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:39 PM
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31. Bush hatred is misplaced.
Bush is just a symptom.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 10:40 PM
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32. Yes. Almost exactly the same.
But Dems have a reason. Chimp is a winger that obviates their liberal positions.

Clinton was a centrist who absorbed much of the right's message.

Figuring out why the outrage is identical in it's scope is the part that makes one's mind melt.

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:17 PM
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33. More importantly, why was Hatred of Clinton
so productive? Truth be told, the Republican Machine is not averse to perversion, as evidenced by the Iraq prison scandals and Kenneth Starr's obsession with semen stains. And everybody knows what a white trash slut Newt Gingrich was(is). Or did you think he stepped down as Speaker of the House - right in the middle of Clinton's Monica debacle - to spend more time with his kids?

I can see Rush having a drink with Bill, joking about it all just being "showbiz." The problem is, the fundie sheep truly believe Starr has made the White House infidelity-free, and that a former coke-head AWOL slacker is a god-fearing warrior. The hatred of Clinton ( fueled by Republicans and their cheerleaders) got his ass dumped. We Dems have been trying to take the high road, trying to counter ignorance with the facts. Visceral hatred needs no facts.

This site, and many others are the "It's-About-Time" answer to the Right-Wing hate machine. Do we hate Dumbass Dubya more than they hated Clinton? I sure as hell hope so. And I hope we do as good a job as they did spreading the hatred around......
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:25 PM
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36. Great 1st post.
Welcome to DU. You are right. The left hasn't demonstrated the depth of their loathing for the monkeyboy. Too damn polite up until now. It's beyond time for the floodgates to open.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:49 AM
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48. Thank You For Your Kind Words
I feel all warm and fuzzy and ready to hate...
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:21 PM
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34. I don't see Lefties spending the kinds of money to find false info
on Bush and Co. They give us plenty of fuel without digging.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:22 PM
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35. Yes, but we've got good reasons. They had a blowjob.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:30 PM
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38. It's not just about him--that is the big difference
I loathe and despise the entire Bushista criminal gang, not just obsess on one man and his wife.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:31 PM
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39. We have a reason to hate or dislike Bush
This is not about freaking BJ this is about lies lies lies lies lies=war. Bush should be impeached.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:40 PM
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40. It's not so much hate bushco,
it's a fear of them and what they are capable of.
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:50 PM
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41. I certainly fucking hope so!
nt
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 12:35 AM
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44. Hell no.
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Carson Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:06 AM
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45. I don't care for either one
I don't like Bush. I didn't like Clinton as Prez. Where do I fit in?

Clinton, IMHO, gave the opposition a field day. He made it much too easy.
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HarveyBriggs Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:20 AM
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46. No, Right Wing hate comes from satan.
Rightie hate -- the O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity hate comes straight from the prince of darkness. Pure unadulterated evil hate. Like in Time Bandits, "Don't touch it, it's evil!"

It's been distilled and aged in oak casks for 12 years and bottled in bond.

Leftie hate is not nearly that focused.

Harvey Briggs
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:22 AM
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49. A much better question might be....
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 02:25 AM by tritsofme
Will the Right hate Kerry as much as we hate Bush?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:27 AM
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51. The two aren't the same.
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 02:28 AM by Solly Mack
Why did the right hate Clinton? No good reason...they just did. He beat them. He interrupted their plans.

Why do people hate Chucklenuts? Well, just look at his record. Look what he's done to America...to the world. Look at the death he has caused.

The two can't be compared.

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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 02:50 AM
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52. are you a pollster
for O'Reilly or somebody similar?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:04 AM
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53. ours is real, from deep in our souls
their hate was manufactured from a lot of witch hunts and corporate propaganda.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 03:21 AM
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54. it is qualitatively different
the right hates Clinton pathologically. They require no reason to hate him. He is purely symbolic to them. If you look at Clinton's actual policies, as opposed to the right's charicature of him, he is actually quite moderate--conservative even. He abandoned the unions, the environmentalists, the pacifists. Yet, he was derided by the far right as being far left.

George W. Bush, on the other hand, is demonstrably a failure. Every business he has "led," his misspent youth--indeed, everything he has done in his life--is testament to his unearned position of privelege and immunity from the realities of life and the consequences of his own dearth of talent. He is, unequivocally, a towel-snapping frat boy--nothing less, nothing more. That his happenstance of birth could lead him to preeminent political power is thoroughly unamerican. The utterly graceless way in which he has comported himself since his "uncles" seized power for him is further evidence ofhis unfitness for the position to which his father's minions have thrust him.

Clinton is the victim of pure partisan bloodlust. Bush is worthy of nothing but contempt.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 04:13 AM
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55. MORE...
I know that I hate Bush to the utmost degree, it would be impossible for more hate to exist than what I feel toward chimp. :grr: :nuke:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 05:34 AM
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56. Yes, with much better reason; but we're not nearly as well organized
Bush is far more than just one person -- he's the figurehead of an evil empire. "Fear and loathing" barely begin to describe it.

The extreme right, however, is SO much more organized than any part of the left. The right encourages conformity, the left relishes debate and dissent. To be liberal is to be inherently tolerant of diversity of thought and behavior -- sounds good to me, but trying to lead progressives is very much like trying to herd cats.

We have to figure out how to work together to take back our country without losing the very traits that make liberals liberal...

Hekate
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:20 AM
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57. Speaking strictly for me--Yes
And I think it's sad that politics has degenerated to this point but the simple fact is that the Right Wing has been lying, distorting, defaming and spreading hate for years and we are finally starting to wake up and fight fire with fire.

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:27 AM
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58. More. Bush is more hated than Nixon.
The hatred of many on the Left for Bush is something deep and visceral, a violent reaction to all that he is and represents. One is incapable of hearing him speak for longer than thirty seconds without being gripped by a strong sensation of disgust and loathing; one is sure these sentiments are shared by others here.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:33 AM
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59. TMHMOE
The Most Hated Man On Earth

I utterly LOATHE * and I feel I'm in good company in that loathing.

The has never been a single man in the history of this planet who is as HATED as that POS.

Sometimes it's hard to write jokes about him.

(but I manage)
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:45 AM
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61. you see, we wouldn't hate * if he would just go away,
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 07:03 AM by Paradise
however, their hatred of clinton is relentless, timeless!

edit: i should speak for myself, and say i wouldn't waste my energy on * if he would just go away.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:06 AM
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62. Yes.
At least, I do. I've never hated a politician as much as I hate the chimp. He's the most repulsive human being on the face of this earth. There's NOTHING to like. He wasn't elected...the SCOTUS installed him in office. He's ignorant. He's arrogant. His shoulders back, Cowboy walk is :puke:. The way he snickers when he thinks he's said something important. The way he has used religion to further his political agenda. He's evil. He's a murderer. He's a warmonger. He's too stupid to have a press conference without having the questions and answers written down for him. :eyes: He's a liar. He's destroyed the U.S. relationships with our allies that took generations to build. He's destroyed any respect we ever had from those allies. He's embarrassing and he's the worse president this country has ever had the misfortune of having. YES, I DETEST THE ASSHOLE WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!:grr:
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