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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:52 AM
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In The World Of Rev. Schenck: Atheists Can't Stop Murders From Happening
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The Founders knew liberty could be afforded only to a people restrained internally by a moral governor. No matter how many laws we have against murder, how many police we have to catch the culprits, how many courts we have to prosecute and punish them and how many prisons we have to lock them up, only a conscience informed by a law greater than a human law can stop a murder before it happens. Displaying the Ten Commandments on public property is an admission by all of us of this truth.


The Rev. Rob Schenck is founder of the Ten Commandments Project in Washington, D.C.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=679&ncid=742&e=2&u=/usatoday/20030814/cm_usatoday/11589552
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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:58 AM
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1. As an aetheist
This kind of stuff makes me want to kill people.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:48 AM
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13. Not just athiests are no good at crime.
Considering taht he is pushing the 10C's I would assume that only Jews and Christians are "good enough" to stop crime. All us poor Muslims, Pagans, Buddists, et. al. are just SOL I guess.
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OldEuropean Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:01 AM
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2. Conscience?
And how he wants to get people to have that conscience and follow the "godly" law? Tell them, when they do not behave, they will get into hell after death?

Yeah, let's go back in history and follow the godly law exactly to the last letter, then we become "progressive" as those religious fanatics that blow up people every day.

Religion was the worst invention human ever made.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:09 AM
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3. Right. As they blow up third-worlders around the planet
These people are not christians. The ten commandments WERE written by men, and morality, as we have seen demonstrated on a daily basis for the last three years has NOTHING to do with being religious.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:21 AM
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4. Most of the atheists I know
Have a greater sense of ethics than most Christians I know. The most common reasons I'm given to become a Christian: 1. You won't go to hell, and 2. You will get material wealth in some heaven. No thanks. You do the right thing because it is the right thing to do, period.

Christianity is a tribal religion based on murder and blood sacrifice. The Old Testament god ordered his people to slaughter entire villages, children and animals included (but they could take the virgins and loot). The OT god also liked to use threats such as, "I will dash your infants heads against rocks" to keep his people in line. It isn't surprising that most of the Christian churches remained silent on Bush's unjust war.
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Liberator_Rev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:24 AM
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5. As a Christian clergyman, I deplore people like Schenck !
Give me a good atheist over a lousy Christian any day !
See http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:27 AM
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6. And as a believer, although I must add that I'm
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 08:27 AM by khephra
(to paraphrase Jefferson) a member of a sect of one, it should be stated that any of the religion threads that I post should not be seen as a slam on Christianty...

...they should be seen as slams on stupid idiots who don't use the gift of reason that the Divine gave them.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:13 AM
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12. keep fighting the good fight, Rev!
n/t
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:30 AM
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7. My retort
"Why isn't God stopping the murders then before they happen?"

Where's a burning bush when you need one.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:09 AM
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9. You may want to edit or clarify your post
somebody went to jail for a comment similar to yours
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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:34 AM
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8. Wanker
"In many countries, murder serves a state purpose. Not so here; "

errrrr. er... brain failing.. Only western democracy to use death penalty.............
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:33 AM
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10. He almost got it right...
"only a conscience informed by a law greater than a human law can stop a murder before it happens." It is true that only a 'conscience' can stop a murder before it happens, but I don't believe that it's any 'law' provided from above that forms that conscience. I'm a non-believer, but will stack my morals up against anyone's. Each person was born with the capacity to obtain and use knowledge, to evaluate the actions they take and the consequences, to develop into decent, caring human beings...or to become fascist repukes....it's all individual choice. People who oppose allowing others to make those choices or are too afraid to make them, turn to religion and dogma, and beliefs that one group is superior to all others...and in fact, this causes all of our world problems.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:34 AM
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11. But to kill thousands of people
..you need religion.
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