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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:31 PM
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What happens when a former First Lady dies?
Even Lady Bird Johnson is still alive, so I imagine it's been awhile since a former First Lady passed away. Pat Nixon was the last First Lady to die, I believe, and her situation was different.

Does a former First Lady receive any kind of national recognition or honor upon passing? And, since curiousity is getting to me, is there any kind of protocol if current First Lady dies? Has it ever happened before?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:34 PM
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1. I think Jackie was the last First Lady to die....
and I don't recall that there was any sort of official funeral.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:36 PM
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3. You're right... I had forgotten.
Now I'm wondering if it's really up to the former First Lady. Jackie was notoriously reclusive after Jack's death, and she did remarry, so I'm wondering if the family turned down any kind of national recognition, if there was any kind of option offered.

I have no idea, really, why I'm wondering... just something else to think about, I guess...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:36 PM
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4. I remember a little
especially John Jr. kneeling and kissing her grave.

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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:42 PM
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9. I remember the funeral being a private service, just family and friends.
n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:43 PM
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10. When they interred her at Arlington, it was televised.
I remember that moment with John Jr. too.
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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:34 PM
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2. I remember
when Bess Truman died.

But, then, I worked at the hospital where she was often a patient and cared for her several times in her later years.

Her passing was a big story in Kansas City, but I don't recall what the nationwide coverage was like.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:38 PM
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5. Very interesting, Servo!!
Care to share a little more of your story? That's pretty darned unique. :D
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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:47 PM
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11. Bess, during her later years, was frequently
a patient at Research Medical Center in Kansas City, MO, where I worked as a respiratory therapist. Her doctor was the late Dr. Wallace Graham (Harry Truman's doctor too), who I also knew quite well.

Bess was hospitalized following hip surgery and several times therafter with recurrent pneumonia. (She was well into her 90s by this time). Since she was always on respiratory treatments, most of the RTs in our department cared for her at one time or another. She was, for the most part, not very "with it" by this point in her life, and so couldn't respond to any company or conversation in any sort of meaningful fashion.

They did, however, always have two Secret Service officers sitting outside her hospital room at all times, to carefully screen anyone who went into her room. They were mostly pretty bored, as there wasn't much for them to do. But it was an interesting experience...

(Incidently, when she finally did pass away, she was at home, not in the hospital).

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:59 PM
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13. Fascinating stuff!
Thanks for sharing, Servo. I've never known anyone who actually "met," let alone treated, a former First Lady.

Bess and Harry remain my favorite First Couple, ever. :D
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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:04 PM
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14. The Trumans' personal physician,
Dr. Wallace Graham, was a fascinating person in his own right. He continued to practice medicine and perform surgery well into his 80s. He had an amazing memory as well. Once he met a person, he seeming would never forget them.

Although I never knew that well personally, whenever our paths crossed in the hospital, he would always greet me by name, saying "Hello, Jim, how are you?" as if I were a long lost friend.

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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:39 PM
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6. it's up to the family,
but unless she has some record of outstanding service like Eleanor Roosevelt, it's usually low key.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:40 PM
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7. It's not a national funeral
Basically, it is treated the same as when any high profile person dies.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:41 PM
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8. Usually, She Gets Buried
No elaborate ceremony, unless that's what the family wanted.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:05 PM
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15. I was going to say "Hopefully they will bury her." n/t
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:57 PM
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12. depends
There's a tradition that the first lady, and any living former first ladies, attend the funeral.

Nixon was furious that Hillary didn't attend Pat Nixon's funeral, and that the administration wasn't represented by even a cabinet-level official. Clinton sent Vernon Jordan.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:10 PM
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16. I didn't know they kept Secret Service protection for life....
that must either be great duty or awfully boring duty.
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