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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 08:52 PM
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The end game is here
From another thread where I posted this and it is worth repeating

The End Game are the last stages when everybody gets to play their
absolute last cards. The Radicals know that all their
dreams are going up in smoke, literally. The people are
not buying the sh*t they are trying to sell. Increasingly we
the un-American, liberal loving, and family values hating (I
love the propaganda) long haired people are winning the hearts
and minds of the rest of the people. Mostly we were right, insofar
as the war in Iraq is concerned. Also, the real minority, aka the
Right Wing, is loosing the work of a generation, with Bush. So
they will play the last cards they have to play. And those cards
may be very scary.

As to the civil war, and this is not a popular view.
Powell and others have been fighting a holding action
to hold them back... from doing things such as
invading oh Syria... but now Powell is out of the inner
circle... for good reasons if you are Bush. Tennet,
with all his faults, was probably on Powell's side, and he
was fired, (never mind the official story from the White House)
The inner circle is now getting ever more cozy,
as the paranoid in Bush trusts less and less people.

Hence we will see more firings (Powell is my favorite candidate
but we will see if the old soldier finds a way to hold his
fire, keep his job and continue to slow them. As is two weeks
ago we got a sneak and peek into it as Powell gave some
interviews and got critical in public... and came as close
as you can to an apology and not loose his job.

The Profesional civil service people are also trying to stop
them. And the military, well just as during the Watergate Crisis,
at least a good number are going to defend the Consitution, not
the President. So yes there is a civil war going on at the
highest levels...and the worst part is, you and I will not
truly learn about the full extent, as I suspect this s*it will be
classified so deeply that our grand kids will learn the full
details.

Oh and the Inteligence Directory is leaving, the top man and the
Operations man (Pavitt) are becoming free agents in this mess.
Now tennet is too dirty to serve in the war away from Langley, but
Pavitt will probably join John Beers in the sniping at the
children at 1600 Avenue. Watch for more resignations (chuckle)
at very high levels of the CIA, what qualifies as the Intelligence
Directorate. You may also see high level Officer Corp resignations,
not quite at the level of the Joints Chiefs, but some two stars may
just step down.

Now you see what I mean about a civil war at very high levels? Oh and I do write fiction for a living, and I could not come up with
this plot and sell it.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 09:06 PM
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1. Real life is that way. The plots would be too bizarre.
You should try it though, after it's over.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 09:25 PM
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2. So you still think Powell's a moderate?
He lost that when he went to bat at the UN with lies that he knew were lies. He supported, supports and helps get the BFEE's agenda into action.

He's not a good guy at all, so perhaps you might need to revise that relatively minor, and tangential point to your thesis so as to not help propagate the lie that Powell is trustworthy. Other than that, I agree that we're about to see the death kicks of the Bush regime, or we'll see a major power play where they'll win once again and cow the opposition and the people into subservience to their will.

It's going to be big. It's going to be bad.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/fahrenheit_911/

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 09:28 PM
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3. He lost that title when he covered for the deaths of women and
children in My Lai.

At least that's my criterion. :shrug:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 11:04 PM
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4. No, he's not a good guy --
But he's a little more sane than most of the others. And yes, in some of the Administration's misadventures, he tried to hew to a more moderate (read: sane) policy.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending him, I find him and his ass-covering, self-serving ways repugnant. But let's at least be honeset and accurate about him.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 12:59 AM
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7. Powell is a thoroughgoing rotter
and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 12:00 AM
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5. Keith Olbermann reported tonight
that there is word that Condi will leave by the end of the year. Is that new? Maybe there were rumors of that before... Also that people were speculating about Rummy not being around for a second term IF there is one. Powell, of course, is ready to go--but presumably * is hoping to hold people together until Nov. anyway.

At this point, I would think that each person who is peeled off would indicate that much more panic that blame is sticking to *. But even if it turns into a stampede, I think the RNC and the GOP in Congress will do everything in their power to spin it as "normal"--it's not only * who could lose big in November.

Oh, Ray McGovern (founder of ex-CIA group critical of *) was on Democracy Now (yesterday?) saying the same sort of things--that BushCo is increasingly cornered now, and he's afraid of what "extra-legal" things they may do. I'm assuming he measures his words, which makes it all the more scary.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 12:02 AM
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6. They are ALL leaving by the end of the year
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 12:02 AM by Lex
or at least, they'll all be given their pink slips by then.

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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:18 AM
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8. Blood has only just hit the water.
The Great Whites haven't arrived yet...
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 04:11 AM
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9. What is ironic is that in a way they are being hoisted on their own
petard. Remember when Ken Starr went to court to obtain
the notes from Hilary Clinton's conversations with
her White House attorney.? I think Starr "won" that round.
That decision has made it impossible for Bush to use
White House or Government attorneys. Bush has to go outside to someone
like Sharp to maintain privilege.
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