Turn on CBS News NOW. Enron tapes.

[blm]

.

[Cush]

1. beat me to it

The tapes the Government and Enron didn't want you to hear"

[FlashHarry]

2. Quote from rather...

"...the tapes the government, along with Enron, hoped you'd never hear."

[taquinas101]

42. Here's the link to the story . . .

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/main620626.shtml

[blm]

3. Employees celebrated Ca. forest fires.

"Burn baby burn." and laughing....

[Beetwasher]

4. Wow. Just, Wow.

Holy crappola...

[Cush]

5. Bush mentioned

on how Enron wanted Bush in because he would do what they wanted!!!! And they played the tapes!

[mondo joe]

14. NO! Are you shitting me?

Did they actually have footage of someone at Enron saying that they wanted Bush in because he would do what they wanted?

Or was that a commantator's opinion???

[htuttle]

20. It was an audio tape of people at Enron

[blm]

24. That tape would make a GREAT antiBush ad in California.

No doubt. Cali Dem party, are you listening?

[NashVegas]

49. And Washington State

When California was getting fucked, other Pac NW states were forced to supply them, which sent their own rates skyrocketing.

I know some pissed off Seattlites with no love for California or sympathy for its woes who will find this interesting.

[KoKo]

53. I'm on "dial up" and it's not too long a download to listen. Of course I

had to listen to a "Walmart" ad (would you believe...touting how kind and good they are to their employees) and then hit the CBS link again before my Real Audio got the "Burn Baby...Burn" part and the rest of the story.

But, it was worth it to hear those guys cheering California Fires and wishing their "grannies dead." Disgusting and Crass...but that's what we are dealing with today.

Check it out...and skip the Walmart Ad after it downloads. It's a short clip, but worth the listen.....

well it will give you nightmares thinking these "shits" could be your sons or daughters..or co-workers...but if you can stand it, it's worth the look. :-(

[blm]

6. OMG...What disgusting pigs.

Mocking grannies having to pay out their asses for their electric bills.

Happy that Bush would win, and Ken Lay would become Energy Secretary.

[Disturbed]

13. But Dumbya said....

that he didn't know Ken Lay.

Wonder what the Gropenator will say about his buddies in Enron?

[KittyWampus]

7. If Only Arnold's Name Appeared

I'd actually be happy about the news.

[CatWoman]

29. His name will eventually come up

didn't he forgive Enron's debt to California? That or drastically reduced it.

[blm]

30. And didn't he meet with Ken Lay around this same time?

.

[CatWoman]

32. Yep -- Arianna Huffington called him out on it.

[Stephanie]

35. Yes -

I think the story is at www.gregpalast.com

[MissB]

8. I would if I could

But I'll be sure to turn it to CBS tonight when the evening news comes on. Thanks for the heads up!

[blm]

34. Will bump so you don't miss it.

.

[blm]

9. Central and West Coast DUers...MUST WATCH.

Those with Tivo please post transcript.

[wndycty]

10. Oh oh here is a link

Enron Tapes Air Dirty Laundry
LOS ANGELES, June 1, 2004


When a forest fire shut down a major transmission line into California, cutting power supplies and raising prices, Enron energy traders celebrated, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports.

"Burn, baby, burn," they said.

Four years after California's disastrous experiment with energy deregulation, Enron energy traders can be heard – on audiotapes obtained by CBS News – gloating and praising each other as they helped bring on, and cash-in on, the Western power crisis.

"He just f___s California," says one Enron employee. "He steals money from California to the tune of about a million."

"Will you rephrase that?" asks a second employee.

"OK, he, um, he arbitrages the California market to the tune of a million bucks or two a day," replies the first.

The tapes, from Enron's West Coast trading desk, also confirm what CBS reported years ago: that in secret deals with power producers, traders deliberately drove up prices by ordering power plants shut down.

-snip-

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/printable620626.shtml

[lanparty]

Another nail ...

In Bush's coffin. They won't be able to keep this under wraps.

The tightly folded Bush tamale is finally coming unrolled.

[lanparty]

15. Another nail ...

In Bush's coffin. They won't be able to keep this under wraps.

The tightly folded Bush tamale is finally coming unrolled.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Burn Baby Burn?! Holy Shit!

Those people are sick!

[Sequoia]

18. Yes, wait till those who lost their homes in that fire

get wind of this. Hell to pay?! I sure hope so.

[blm]

36. but it would make great antiBush ads.

And Arnold spent quality time with Ken Kay, too.

Isn't Arnie talking about trying to privatize energy again?

[Arugula Latte]

38. This can't be right!

I was told by the rightwing and their media friends that it was the Tree-Hugging Environmentalists who caused all the problems. They wouldn't LIE to me, would they? :shrug:

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Shit! i missed it!

Do you think they will replay them tonight on the 10:00 News?CBS...:tinfoilhat: I wonder if 60 minutes will play the tapes on Sunday? Hmmmm. They implicate the chimp?

[CatWoman]

27. the video will be available about 8 tonight

they always post the Nightly News seqments here: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. Thank You! n/t

[CatWoman]

33. It's up now -- just watched it

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Nomad559]

55. Direct link for video

http://63.123.44.172:80/7/1466/8488/v012110/cbscomstor.download.akamai.com/8605/cbsnews/2004/06/01/video620639.wmv

[stinkeefresh]

12. oh GOD let this grow legs

audiences like secret tapes, right? Right?

come on, media! run with it!

[Skidmore]

17. Ken Lay was going to be Secretary of Energy???

Guess he jumped the shark too soon...

[wndycty]

19. Now I wonder what the Enron guys knew to make them say that. . .

. . .if anyone really follows the money on this I bet it can mean big trouble for some people.

[kstewart33]

21. Think Cheney and the energy task force

There is most likely a strong connection. If only the Supremes would open the vault.

[NashVegas]

51. No, But He Got to CHOOSE One for Us

BERGMAN: Has Ken Lay called you?

CURTIS HEBERT: I talked with Ken Lay on the phone and in private.

BERGMAN: How often have you spoken with Curt Hebert since the inauguration?

LAY: I think two or three times.

BERGMAN: Has any other C.E.O. of any company ever called you privately to lobby their position other than Ken Lay?

HEBERT: No.

BERGMAN: We've been told that he, in fact, says things like, "I'll help you with what you need politically," let's say staying on as chairman of the F.E.R.C., if you'll go along with me on this policy issue.

Has that ever happened?

HEBERT: I would never make that trade.

BERGMAN: Did he ever propose such a trade?

HEBERT: I would just say that I will never make such a trade.

I think he would be a much bigger supporter of mine if I was willing to do what he wanted me to do.

BERGMAN: He reflects a certain attitude because he is in a sense the only C.E.O. or the only head of a major company to have done this; is that correct?

HEBERT: It's correct that he's the only C.E.O., I guess, that has asked me to take certain positions.

But I've had those conversations with Ken Lay for a long time and have disagreed with him for a long time.

BERGMAN: Do you think your disagreement may result in your not being Chairman anymore?

HEBERT: I think the President will make the decision on whether or not I remain to be chairman.

I serve at the will and the pleasure of the President not Ken Lay.

BERGMAN: And in a subsequent interview published in THE NEW YORK TIMES, Curt Hebert said he was offended by Ken Lay's overture.

LAY: I suppose Curt is entitled to believe whatever Curt believes. Curt is a very, very capable individual.

I'm quite sure I did not in that conversation, as I would not, say that if you can't agree to this, then we can't support you.

I think I did say in that conversation that clearly whoever became Chairman would ultimately be decided by the President, not by Ken Lay, not by Enron, not by anybody else.

BERGMAN: So we asked Vice President Cheney, did Ken Lay talk to him about Curt Hebert?

Did he talk with you about who was running the F.E.R.C.

CHENEY: No.

BERGMAN: He never raised a question about his dissatisfaction with Mr. Hebert.

CHENEY: No.

BERGMAN: He never talked about replacing Mr. Hebert with Mr. Wood?

CHENEY: No.

BERGMAN: Mr. Wood is Pat Wood, long an Enron favorite.

In this 1994 letter, Ken Lay wrote to then Governor-elect George W. Bush recommending Mr. Wood.

In our interview last May, Vice President Cheney was already referring to Mr. Wood as the Vhairman, long before any public announcement.

CHENEY: Pat Wood has got to be the new Chairman of F.E.R.C.

BERGMAN: Off camera the Vice President confirmed that Mr. Hebert was history and Nr. Wood a supporter of opening up the transmission grid, was to be the new Chairman of the F.E.R.C..

BERGMAN: I've talked to the Vice President.

He says Pat Wood will be the new Chairman. Sounds like Ken Lay is getting his way.

HEBERT: He might.

This would be the first knowledge I've had if Pat Wood is, in fact, to be Chairman.

BERGMAN: Three months after this interview President Bush named Pat Wood Chairman of the F.E.R.C.

While Ken Lay did not get everything that he wanted from the Vice President in his national energy strategy, he did get his number one wish: a recommendation to open up the electric transmission grid and force the states and the utilities to comply.

http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transcript103_full_print.html

[Emboldened Chimp]

22. Are these employees or executives talking?

Have they been identified? It's a big difference between Lay or Skilling saying this compared to the guys in the mail room.

[markses]

26. These are energy traders at Enron

One of whom tells a CA power plant to shut down a steamer. What's the difference? There was a culture of rapine at Enron, and that culture went from the Lays and Skillings of the world to the trading desk, where a bunch of savages took glee in their greed, theft, and negligence. The entire fucking structure of these pirates was sick from top to bottom.

[markses]

23. "Sticking $250 a megawatt hour right up Grandma Millie's ass" Har Har Har

Nice guys, these. And that's pretty damn near a direct quotation.

[Alerter_]

50. that's a Bush campaign slogan

MoveOn should make commercials. Buzzflash? Somebody, quick!

[KoKo]

54. yes... kill off our Grannies...they are a "drain on the system." They

might leave you enough to buy a new Hummer or Beamer...right? Who need's em. Bring 'em flowers in the nursing home and they don't know who the hell you are. Cut off their power and STARVE 'EM OUT!

Only in Bush America where he tells you to go "hug a shut in" would this make sense. :nuke:

[kentuck]

25. This is not good news for Bush, especially with.....

the high cost of gasoline today. It would almost restore my faith in our government if we could get access to Cheney's energy meeting tapes...

[salin]

28. and where are these traders today? In the futures for petrolium/oil

and we wonder, even when there is no scarcity, why the pump prices keep escalating.

[dusty64]

37. This ought to be damning, but

like everything else it will be ignored and swept under the rug. Things are gonna be differnent soon though, if President Kerry even so much as farts its going to be a MAJOR scandal.

[Doctor_J]

39. yawn

compared to the rest of *'s scandals, this one is weak.

[HootieMcBoob]

40. Let this be the one!

God please let this be the one that does those bastards in for good. You know Bush and Cheney knew this shit was going on and they told California to "drop dead".

[MissB]

41. Bumping for the West Coasters. It is on now! (nt)

[warrior1]

43. west coaster here

I want their fucking heads on a stick, tar and feathered. This goes all the up to bush/cheney.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Alerter_]

52. TAX and STEAL Republicans

Enron was outright THEFT from California taxpayers. Bush and Arnold, the Enron scammers.

[Arkana]

44. "Burn, baby, burn!"

What a bunch of sick corporate fucks. Have they no shame? No decency? No sense of humanity?

[ContinentalOp]

45. Aaarrgh!

I think my head is going to explode. Who are these people! These aren't people that actually live in CA are they!!?? This is just totally sickening. I mean we all know what they were doing but to have to hear them gloating about it is just too much.

[rumguy]

46. Disgusting, damning

I can't believe these sick fucks. This is the dark heart, the corrupted soul, of modern corporate America. They are as bad Al Queda. They may be worse than Al Queda in that their ability to permanently destroy the earth is greater.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

47. Kind of like the corporate version of those Army helicopter tapes with

the pilots gloating over shooting some poor dude in a field to pieces.

[MoonRiver]

48. Move On has GOT to use this!

It must be played over and over on national television until November.

[Octafish]

56. Any mention of Cliff Baxter?

Poor guy knew too much.

[blm]

60. The tapes were from BEFORE Enron was caught and Baxter was suicided.

.

[Octafish]

62. Wondered maybe they caught Cliff talking, etc.

Thanks for the heads-up, blm! I've been rabbitting extra hard of late and have not had the chance to viddy the TV news. Sounds like a heck of a broadcast.

For the BFEE it must be especially, um, creepy to see someone on film who's no longer with us. It reminds them of what lies ahead.

The ancient Egyptians believed upon one's death, the heart is placed on a scale. On the other balance, a feather is laid. Whichever is heaviest determines the soul's path into the next world.

[usregimechange]

57. Some one post this in the Cal. sub forum. This is huge! nt

[KoKo]

58. Kick for those who missed it and need the link to the clip.

:kick:

[Th1onein]

59. I love it that they included a video of Bush doing exactly what

they said he would do. These people are criminals.

[LynneSin]

61. How soon until a "Code Yellow" or other terra alert is issued today

We have to bumped this story off the evening news and pronto

:eyes:

[blm]

63. Haven't seen ONE news story since the segment oin CBS last night.

Filthy Bushwhoremedia.

[underpants]

64. Bush references not in USA Today,Houston, Miami, SanDiego papers

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2004-06-02-enron_x.htm



http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/2605425

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20040602-0830-enron-transcripts.html

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/8818900.htm?1c