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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:21 AM
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I'm a widow of the war that was fought in Vietnam
Ballad of Penny Evans
Steve Goodman
My name is Penny Evans and my age is twenty-one
I'm a widow of the war that was fought in Vietnam
I have two baby daughters and I do the best I can
They say the war is over but I think it's just begun

I remember I was seventeen when first I met my Bill
At his father's grand piano we played old 'Heart and Soul'
I only knew the left hand part, he knew the right so well
He's the only boy I slept with, and the only one I will

First we had a baby girl, we had two good years
And next the warning notice came, we parted without tears
Then it's nine months from our last goodbye our second child appears
And it's ten months and a telegram confirming all our fears

So once a month I get a check from some army bureaucrat
And once a month I tear it up and mail the damn thing back
Do they think that makes it all right? Do they think I'll fall for that?
They can keep their bloody money, it won't bring my Billy back

I never cared for politics, speeches I don't understand
Likewise I'll take no charity from any living man
But tonight there's fifty thousand gone in that unhappy land
And fifty thousand 'Heart and Souls' being played with just one hand

My name is Penny Evans and my age is twenty-one
I'm a widow of the war that was fought in Vietnam
I have two baby daughters - thank God I have no son
They say the war is over but I think it's just begun


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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:23 AM
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1. damn that's a good poem!
i'm moved
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:14 AM
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5. Thanks mopaul, Steve is the best
Winter Soldier


Investigation Testimony given in Detroit, Michigan, on January 31, 1971, February 1 and 2, 1971
Sponsored by Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Inc.

1ST MARINE DIVISION
Opening Statement of William Crandell:
"Over the border they send us to kill and to fight for a cause they've long ago forgotten." These lines of Paul Simon's recall to Vietnam veterans the causes for which we went to fight in Vietnam and the outrages we were part of because the men who sent us had long ago forgotten the meaning of the words.

We went to preserve the peace and our testimony will show that we have set all of Indochina aflame. We went to defend the Vietnamese people and our testimony will show that we are committing genocide against them. We went to fight for freedom and our testimony will show that we have turned Vietnam into a series of concentration camps.

We went to guarantee the right of self-determination to the people of South Vietnam and our testimony will show that we are forcing a corrupt and dictatorial government upon them. We went to work toward the brotherhood of man and our testimony will show that our strategy and tactics are permeated with racism. We went to protect America and our testimony will show why our country is being torn apart by what we are doing in Vietnam.

In the bleak winter of 1776 when the men who had enlisted in the summer were going home because the way was hard and their enlistments were over, Tom Paine wrote, "Those are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will in this crisis shrink from the service of his country, but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman." Like the winter soldiers of 1776 who stayed after they had served their time, we veterans of Vietnam know that America is in grave danger. What threatens our country is not Redcoats or even Reds; it is our crimes that are destroying our national unity by separating those of our countrymen who deplore these acts from those of our countrymen who refuse to examine what is being done in America's name.

The Winter Soldier Investigation is not a mock trial. There will be no phony indictments; there will be no verdict against Uncle Sam. In these three days, over a hundred Vietnam veterans will present straightforward testimony-- direct testimony--about acts which are war crimes under international law. Acts which these men have seen and participated in. Acts which are the inexorable result of national policy. The vets will testify in panels arranged by the combat units in which they fought so that it will be easy to see the policy of each division and thus the larger policy. Each day there will be a special panel during the hours of testimony. Today, a panel on weaponry will explain the use and effects of some of the vicious and illegal weapons used in Vietnam. Tomorrow there will be a panel on prisoners of war composed of returned POWs, parents of a POW, American POW interrogators and vets who served in our own military stockades. Every witness throughout the three days will be available for cross-examination by the press after their initial statements and questioning by their fellow-vets who are acting as moderators.

more
http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Winter_Soldier/WS_02_opening.html
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:29 AM
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2. That is the type of unwed mother that the GOP has railed against
Remember Dan Quale and Murphy Brown and all their upity shit about unwed mothers. Fuck them and all their "compasionate conservatism". They don't mind sending someone's husband off to die but hate like hell to give any aid and assistance to families that have been broken.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:04 AM
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3. The late great Steve Goodman
was a great singer. thanks for reminding me of one of his more powerful songs. for those who don't know, this talented musician/poet also wrote "The City of New Orleans", made popular by Arlo Guthrie.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:06 AM
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4. One of the most haunting songs I've ever heard.
Michelle Shocked remade it in the early 90's, I think?

Just as good as the original.

-MR
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:37 AM
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6. Many women paid with their lives for loving Vietnam vets-war is hell.
there's far too many orphans too...
It's Memorial Day for the US military fallen and their social networks.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:17 PM
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7. There’s a hole in daddy’s arm where all the money goes
Edited on Mon May-31-04 06:21 PM by seemslikeadream
Sam stone came home,
To his wife and family
After serving in the conflict overseas.
And the time that he served,
Had shattered all his nerves,
And left a little shrapnel in his knee.
But the morphine eased the pain,
And the grass grew round his brain,
And gave him all the confidence he lacked,
With a purple heart and a monkey on his back.

There’s a hole in daddy’s arm where all the money goes,
Jesus christ died for nothin’ I suppose.
Little pitchers have big ears,
Don’t stop to count the years,
Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios.
Mmm....

Sam stone’s welcome home
Didn’t last too long.
He went to work when he’d spent his last dime
And sammy took to stealing
When he got that empty feeling
For a hundred dollar habit without overtime.
And the gold rolled through his veins
Like a thousand railroad trains,
And eased his mind in the hours that he chose,
While the kids ran around wearin’ other peoples’ clothes...

There’s a hole in daddy’s arm where all the money goes,
Jesus christ died for nothin’ I suppose.
Little pitchers have big ears,
Don’t stop to count the years,
Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios.
Mmm....

Sam stone was alone
When he popped his last balloon
Climbing walls while sitting in a chair
Well, he played his last request
While the room smelled just like death
With an overdose hovering in the air
But life had lost it’s fun
And there was nothing to be done
But trade his house that he bought on the g, i. bill
For a flag draped casket on a local heroes’ hill

There’s a hole in daddy’s arm where all the money goes,
Jesus christ died for nothin’ I suppose.
Little pitchers have big ears,
Don’t stop to count the years,
Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios.
Mmm....

John Prine
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:21 PM
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8. That song still makes me weep.
I simply can't read it or hear it sung without crying. Now-a-days, it carries even more pain with it, I think.

Damn bush to hell eternal for what he's done and for all the Penny Evans he's created!

Laura
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:27 PM
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9. another song about a war widow - Makin' Pies
PATTY GRIFFIN

Makin' Pies

It's not far
I can walk
Down the block
To TableTalk
Close my eyes
Make the pies all day

Plastic a cap
On my hair
I used to mind
Now I don't care
I used to mind
Now I don't care
Cause I'm gray

Did I show you this picture of my nephew
Taken at his big birthday surprise
At my sister's house last Sunday
This is Monday and I'm making pies
I'm making pies
Making pies
Pies

Thursday nights
I go and type
Down at the church
For Father Mike
It gets me out
And he ain't hard to like
At all

Jesus stares at me
In my chair
With his big blue eyes
And his honey brown hair
And he's looking at me
Way up there
On the wall

Did I show you this picture of my sweetheart
Taken of us before the war
Of the Greek and his Italian girl
One Sunday at the shore

We tied our ribbons to the fire escape
They were taken by the birds
Who flew home to the country
As the bombs rained on the world

5am
Here I am
Walking the block
To TableTalk
You could cry or die
Or just make pies all day
I'm making pies
Making pies
Making pies
Making pies

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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:34 PM
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10. great song
Griffin is one of the best singer-songwriters alive today ...
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:36 PM
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11. Steve Goodman was one of the best
a hard song to listen to ... haunting, isn't it ??
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