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emc Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:53 PM
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Most incredible story about Bush have ever read
This story in unbelievable-----I don't know if all the points are true but this one really rocks the boat---you have to read the whole thing...read especially near the bottom of the page---

http://liberty.hypermart.net/editorials/2004/American_Caligula.htm
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:05 AM
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1. Weird story.
I don't know what to make of it.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:06 AM
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2. looks interesting!
i'll read in a.m. soo tired, have great nite emc!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:11 AM
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3. well . . . if the stuff about S&B is true (and I'm not saying it is) . . .
then wouldn't there be similar pictures of John Kerry somewhere? . . .
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:13 AM
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4. I think this is over the top
Someone has their tin hat on too tight.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:17 AM
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5. crazy
If this is true, then it needs to come out. Send it to Larry Flynt---he has destroyed several Republicans in the past.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:27 AM
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6. It's a compendium of all the most extreme stories about Bush
Some of it may be true, but other parts -- like calling Bush schizophrenic or saying Skull and Bones practices Satanic rituals -- in all likelihood aren't.

The most plausible descriptions I've seen of the S&B initiation involve masturbating in a coffin -- not homosexuality. Bush may well have had a thing going with Victor Ashe (former mayor of Knoxville, now ambassador to Poland) ever since their college days, but it was presumably on their own time and not an official S&B requirement.

Beyond that, I certainly wouldn't trust anything Al Martin or Sherman Skolnick said without outside corroboration. And there's been prior discussion here of the woman who claimed Bush raped her, and the general consensus is that she was mentally ill and probably not reliable.




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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:49 AM
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7. i read a caligula bio in 02/03
bathroom reading takes so long.
anyway, i found many many many parallels to W. which i put on my blog-pansypoos-personal-rant-page.blogspot/
well, i am linked on atrios if that ain't right, under pansypoo, if you finer details. but most interesting was the fact that caligula 'threw away' a large budget surpluss as well and was loved by the underclass. he also was oved because of his father. where did this love of G bush the superir come from anyways?
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:54 AM
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8. “We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth ...” -
Is that a real quote from Bush?
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:57 AM
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9. Yes, that's a quote from Bush in Bob Woodward's book.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:58 AM
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10. WOW. That is an unbelievable article.
I'm beginning to understand why Randi Rhodes has been INSISTING that the prison abuse at Abu Ghraib was actually ordered by Bush.

I've been wondering about Rumsfeld, Cambone, Sanchez; which one of them has a penchant for homo-erotic porn.

Jeez. What a monster. I just posted on another thread that I thought he was the Anti Christ (Pope John Paul just made that statement).

Someone corrected me and said he is The Beast from the Book of Revelations. Either way, he is a monster.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:08 AM
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11. I've seen the bizarre 'S&B' rumors before.
Not saying I believe them, mind you. In fact, the first time I remember seeing them was before the sElection in 2000. I don't give them much credence because I can't remember where I saw them, and if I remember correctly, the story was written by somebody who supposedly had the photos, but for some reason s/he wouldn't or couldn't publish them.

As for the Caligula comparison ... it's definitely compelling. I wonder if he'll send soldiers to attack the reflecting pool on the DC Mall because he believes its spirits are going to defeat him? Would anybody be surprised?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:12 AM
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12. besides the sex stories
and the pictures of skull and bones, all the rest seems right on the mark from what i have been reading the last couple years. that woman i read about a while ago and i would really like stuff for her to surface and find up what is really up with that. pay back for what that woman went thru. also learned in his past history, one abort for sure and possibly four, one with a black girl 15. could be the woman
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:03 AM
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13. well, I finally found something I can agree with Hitchens on . . .
“George Bush, he’s bad on drugs, he’s sick mentally and physically, if he was a dog he’d be shot. He’s a scumbag. That’s why he won’t be re-elected. He’s not morally, physically or mentally fit to be President.” . . .

sounds about right . . .

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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 08:22 AM
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15. Kissinger
You might want to read or watch "The Trials of Henry Kissinger". You'll probably find that that too is something you agree with Hitchens on.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:40 AM
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14. The Caligula comparisons are interesting-here's some more
Alot of really weird stuff here, some legit, some real tinfoil hat stuff.

I kind of like the Caligula comparison though. Here's some more.

Rise to power

Caligula: Is believed to have risen to power illegitimately by smothering his uncle the emperor Tiberius with a pillow.

Bush: Is believed to have risen to power illegitimately through a disputed (stolen) election culminating in a decision by a partisan Supreme Court.

Dress Up Time

Caligula: Loved dressing up like a soldier despite, unlike other members of the Roman elite, never having served in the Roman Legions.

Bush: Mission accomplished flight suit boy--need I say more. Poppy got him that National Guard deferment and he didn't even bother to show up for part of it.

Footwear

Caligula: Got the nickname Caligula "Little Boots" for his penchant for wearing army boots as a kid--this despite the fact, as mentioned before that he never served a day in the army.

Bush: Loves to wear cowboy boots, this despite the fact that he never rides and may be the only rancher in Texas who apparently is afraid of horses.

Horsing Around

Caligula: Appointed a champion race horse named Incitatus as Consul of the Roman Senate.

Bush: Despite his apparent dislike for horses, the Bush administration has approached the connections of champion race horse Smarty Jones about a White House photo op. (Mr. Jones' spokepeople have politely declined the invitation)
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